Skull

Myomoto · #1 03-20-2006, 03:25 PM

Working on (yet another) skull, any comments, ideas?

warp2ukew · #2 03-20-2006, 03:31 PM

Looks good, he looks happy to be dead...

Elk · #3 03-20-2006, 03:57 PM

hmmm i think the eyes are too small...and he's definitly too happy lol XD

Tom · #4 03-20-2006, 04:05 PM

::rolls up sleeves::
Ok, constructive critism for Myomoto

First up outlines, sometimes black outlines make some images look good, but in this case, its a skull , black and white and 2 opposite colours and makes it stand out too much.
Id recommend having a reasonably dark grey, than a little loghter grey to add into all the curves, so they dont appear so jagged.
Teeth are never perfect like this :P And they are far to thin, id recommend making them more, natural.

The rest is real nice, well done ^_^

excaliber7388 · #5 03-20-2006, 04:17 PM

If life's a dream, then death must be a party

Anyway, his eyes are a bit far apart, or too small. Overall, not bad

Tom · #6 03-20-2006, 05:10 PM

They may be far apart, but do you guys actually know what creatres skull this is?

Crono · #7 03-20-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Myomoto

Working on (yet another) skull, any comments, ideas?

Much better than the old one. Give this one some sunglasses and it would own.

alarid0 · #8 03-20-2006, 08:45 PM

Its all nice & smooth...I just don't like the teeth. you shouldnt use black lines to outline each one: instead, imply the outline. Leave the black on the top and bottom where it 'starts' to show the vertical line between the teeth. Leave the beginning, but remove the line itself. Remove the horizontal lines as well: leave the single dots of black...one dark pixel in the corners of teeth where 4 meet, but make everything else white.

edit: Scratch that

it didn't work as well as drawing on paper.
i quick checked it out to see how it would be

edit again: but it does work out if you do that + a fade to black towards the back molars

Zero Hour · #9 03-20-2006, 09:03 PM

Is it supposed to be cartoony, or realistic?

Myomoto · #10 03-20-2006, 11:37 PM

Cartoony with a slight touch of realism, that's my genneral style, atleast that's what I aim at ;p
And I'll try to lighten the outline a bit, perhaps even be a lazy ass and slap the sunglasses on to get rid of work with the eyes ;O
And I'll look into those teeth,
thanks for all the great coments all

NinjaEdit: just a general note on (human)skulls, they all look freakishly happy, my theory is that it has something to do with not having any lips and all...

NinjaReply ZH: I usually draw realism when i do pencil stuff, I just haven't done a hole lot of either pixels nor pencil/pen stuff lately

Zero Hour · #11 03-20-2006, 11:40 PM

It's my opinion that people who draw cartoons should try to render realistic drawings aswell. Will help them find their cartoon style more.

maximus_asinus · #12 03-21-2006, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Much better than the old one. Give this one some sunglasses and it would own.

I can't take credit for it, my cousin made it, very nice. I don't know if he does much work anymore but his deviantart link is here.

Tom · #13 03-21-2006, 02:19 PM

That skull head with glasses is a nice drawing ^_^ I might actually try and pixel this myself

Myomoto · #14 03-21-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

That skull head with glasses is a nice drawing ^_^ I might actually try and pixel this myself

Gerami is talking about this old piece I did with some help from the community way back..

And yea, real nice drawing :o

Edit:

Oh yea, forgot to post the new vs. the old one, I just hate how the new one's teeth look like plastic :S
Changed a few proportions too, to get the eyes closer to each other, rounden the head etc.
Also tried to give it a more 'evil' glee.

Edit: Added a new opdate, after koni's comments.

Edit: did some random stuff, changed palette to a more 'brownish', to make it look older, detailed the nose, did some fixes at the eyes.
Cheek bones are about the only thing that bothers me now.

Edit: Picture guidance; pictures are placed from left to right and appears in the order they a mentioned in the text.

konidias · #15 03-21-2006, 06:23 PM

Looking better... The eye sockets could tend to be a bit larger though... The eyeball is REALLY big considering the size of a head. Also the nose (or place where a nose should be) shape is wrong.

Here is a nice site with skull anatomy to give you an idea:

http://www.gwc.maricopa.edu/class/bi...ll/antskul.htm

Crono · #16 03-21-2006, 07:30 PM

That update looks very nice.

lancelot9 · #17 03-21-2006, 11:09 PM

I edited it, hope ya dont mind.
This is what I got:

Drastic Vendetta · #18 03-22-2006, 05:19 AM

Not bad at all. Well done.

Luda · #19 03-22-2006, 06:08 AM

I kinda like lancelot9's better

CidNight1142 · #20 03-22-2006, 07:15 AM

Its much more realistic for sure. Good representation of the eye orbits.

Curt1zzle · #21 03-24-2006, 05:26 AM

Looks nice, Lance.

Elk · #22 03-24-2006, 06:10 PM

really nice

lancelot9 · #23 03-24-2006, 10:36 PM

Thank you, ill sign autographs later ^_~

Myomoto · #24 03-25-2006, 09:16 PM

It is nice, looks really round, but you used brushes(!) :O

lancelot9 · #25 03-25-2006, 09:29 PM

No... i used ms paint. All the same colors you did aswell.
Its got messed up colors because of when i saved the file im guessin.. I was wondering about that to when i got bored one day and cut off his bottom jaw. Anyways it still looks real kewl.

You want me to brush it and Ill own it.

EDIT:
this one took me probably atleast 2 minutes in PSP with just randomly darkening it where ever I felt was necessary

Crono · #26 03-25-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Myomoto

It is nice, looks really round, but you used brushes(!) :O

So? It's the end result that counts <3

Zero Hour · #27 03-25-2006, 09:47 PM

lancelot9 · #28 03-25-2006, 10:03 PM

I like that.. i like the way there isnt any real straight lines, you made the bones kinda form together. Maybe take away the black line by his right eye there and make it a dark sahde of that cream color. I really like the teeth.

Zero Hour · #29 03-25-2006, 10:16 PM

lancelot9 · #30 03-25-2006, 10:19 PM

LOL WOAH U ROCK!

J/k IDK wth thats for but it inspires me and I think ill make my own now.

Zero Hour · #31 03-25-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lancelot9

LOL WOAH U ROCK!

J/k IDK wth thats for but it inspires me and I think ill make my own now.

I used it as my reference for the skull which I posted.

You commented that I should remove the black line which was behind the eye, and on the side of the skull. I was pointing out that I was basing my work on the real thing, rather than the stereotypical, unreferenced, piece of imagination.

I think my eye sockets/nose are too dark, but I'm far too lazy to fix those, now :P

GoZelda · #32 03-25-2006, 11:28 PM

Is it supposed to be a human skull or a primate's?

Zero Hour · #33 03-25-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda

Is it supposed to be a human skull or a primate's?

Mine? Human. Doesn't have a jaw on it, like the reference picture.

CidNight1142 · #34 03-25-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda

Is it supposed to be a human skull or a primate's?

Definately human, primate's brain case would be much smaller, they'd have larger superorbital ridges (the eye socket part above the eye), etc. Looks really good ZH.

lancelot9 · #35 03-26-2006, 09:22 PM

Ok, i had a go at that reference pic aswell.. here is what i got!

Im usin it for the rivived ol west's new tileset

And Cid.. if none of thats made up your crazy.. anatomy? u gunna be a surgeon or something??

Zero Hour · #36 03-26-2006, 09:57 PM

Looks good

CidNight1142 · #37 03-26-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lancelot9

Ok, i had a go at that reference pic aswell.. here is what i got!

Im usin it for the rivived ol west's new tileset

And Cid.. if none of thats made up your crazy.. anatomy? u gunna be a surgeon or something??

Lol, I'm an archaeology major with an interest in human evolution. Just something I enjoy studying.

Also, looks really nice, but much better without the outline. If you want to have an outline for stylistic purposes, perhaps using a color that isnt so...sharp? as black.

lancelot9 · #38 03-26-2006, 10:49 PM

Yeah, im only gunna use maybe a dark shade of brown if its going to be for anything other than a tileset.. which IDK what that would b...
But yeah.. Archaeology was something i used to be real interested in but have seemed to have forgotten about over the years

Myomoto · #39 03-26-2006, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancelot9

Ok, i had a go at that reference pic aswell.. here is what i got!

Im usin it for the rivived ol west's new tileset

And Cid.. if none of thats made up your crazy.. anatomy? u gunna be a surgeon or something??

Really nice, and yea, the one with the outline is the best, but a midtone outline would look the bestest!

lancelot9 · #40 03-26-2006, 11:18 PM

thanks, lol.. and i like ur sig