Suggestion Thread: Let's get down to some specifics.

[MysticX2X]

The annoyance of having to read masses is gone or having to look over 100 masses for a replacement.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

The annoyance of having to read masses is gone or having to look over 100 masses for a replacement.

That's a good point too. I wasn't even considering the benefits to the GC-end. Clearly opposition to such changes is warranted and justified.

[BlackSolider]

I don't pretend to know the exact details of how it would look or appear, but would the gui messages (say for a replacement) disappear after X amount of seconds?

[MysticX2X]

Well no one knows since this idea isn't even in development I believe, but it would be cool to have the gui appear at your convenience. Such as you can say /eventsgui off, or something.


Oh, and thanks for the negative rep on my former post here, anonymous.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

but it would be cool to have the gui appear at your convenience

That's the kind of idea I had in mind, but since I'm not likely to make this system in the first place, there's no telling what'll happen.

Oh, and thanks for the negative rep on my former post here, anonymous.

Why do you even care about reputation? If anyone seriously uses that as a representation of you in some way, they're probably not someone you want to have any concern for anyway. (No, it wasn't me, if that made you curious.)

[Cetellic]

I was just thinking why so much drama over an idea you guys probably aren't capable+willing to make yourself?

[fragman85]

We could make a GUI where the ET can type in some text, choose what kind of Message it is (Looking for Players, Informative...) and for how many people he's looking.

Then a Button in the upper right corner of all players pops up, when clicked on it a GUI appears with the Text and a Button: "Join" or something like that.

I dunno :o

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

drama

Does saying that word make you feel good?

[Cetellic]

you're missing out if you don't know about saying that word... feels better then sex!

[Shadow87]

You know what a good suggestion is, If everyone here that manages to post every day here like a million times in a day, would manage to come on classic every day, you know, since there is a majority of you who do not come on to play, we would have probably a nice increase in player count.

It just seems some of you who talk big, think ya know what we need on classic, well some of those people maybe come on like once or twice a month, it would be nice to see them come on more. Remember, players can help!

So kat, ever heard of logging on? maybe even joining an event when you are actually on? something, anything?

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

You know what a good suggestion is, If everyone here that manages to post every day here like a million times in a day, would manage to come on classic every day, you know, since there is a majority of you who do not come on to play, we would have probably a nice increase in player count.

It just seems some of you who talk big, think ya know what we need on classic, well some of those people maybe come on like once or twice a month, it would be nice to see them come on more. Remember, players can help!

So kat, ever heard of logging on? maybe even joining an event when you are actually on? something, anything?

i see storm online every hours of the day on this forum , but he not posting , so he must be afk , and i guess i didnt see him log on for a while now

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

i see storm online every hours of the day on this forum , but he not posting , so he must be afk , and i guess i didnt see him log on for a while now

He doesn't have to post to read.
I wouldn't post if I was him either. No matter what he says, it will add fuel to the flame.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

He doesn't have to post to read.
I wouldn't post if I was him either. No matter what he says, it will add fuel to the flame.

so its like , let thor post and do everything and just sit and read?

[Bell]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

can we have less drama lz!! i beg u

Time for everyone, including Laura to take this advice. I do believe this is a suggestions thread. Shall we not derail it so that the good suggestions get lost in the mess?

[Rufus]

Suggestion:

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

So kat, ever heard of logging on? maybe even joining an event when you are actually on? something, anything?

To do what, exactly? I have no need for a chat room with graphics. mIRC suits that role better. I've also pointed out countless times how developing is intolerable due to the existing scripts you have to deal with.

[xnervNATx]

lol ruf

[Shadow87]

But you rather post on here instead? Is your time even worth it?

To the forum mother over there, yes, storm should post, if thor is posting and making an effort, so should he. Thor is actually being viewed as a manager, I don't think anyone views storm as manager anymore, I know i don't. As far as I know, hes worthless to classic and to every player there. So yes, he better make an effort to post here and log on as much as he possibly can to classic. If he really cared, we would have been seeing changes from him already besides trying to save his own butt instead of classics.

Here another suggestion actually, since this is the suggestion thread and all, maybe people like Darlene and others who post about classic but do not play classic , should start playing classic everyday, help us out, help the server out, otherwise keep their opinions to themselves. Its win win, either less Drama, or more players on classic =P

[BlackSolider]

Would help if there was more to do on classic, but yes, either put up or shut up.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

Here another suggestion actually, since this is the suggestion thread and all, maybe people like Darlene and others who post about classic but do not play classic , should start playing classic everyday, help us out, help the server out, otherwise keep their opinions to themselves. Its win win, either less Drama, or more players on classic =P

I used to play Classic a great deal until certain people ran me off, but I still care about classic.

My favorite time on Classic was when you had to get the Hera's (sp?)
I would definitely play Classic if it had lots of quests, (or any server for that matter), that had a point. Such as get something, take it somewhere to get something else, and so on.

Note: there is only one reason that I do not actually play Graal as much right now, and that is because my laptop lags really, really bad, not because I dont care....

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

But you rather post on here instead? Is your time even worth it?

You make it sound as if harm is being done by me posting. If you don't agree with my ideas, big deal. My reasons for doing so are quite obvious. I can also say the same thing to you: is the time you spent posting toward me worth it? It's a pretty stupid question. Obviously we both think so or it wouldn't get done.

Drama

There's that word again. People seem to love to use it any time they're unwilling to read an argument or even a simple discussion from an impartial point of view. To someone not taking it personally, these things are often productive.

[Cetellic]

It is productive, I have read nearly every post and like it and all... I was just askin if anyone here was willing to make it, otherwise what's the point.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

I was just askin if anyone here was willing to make it, otherwise what's the point.

Question marks are good things. I think I'll start putting question marks at the end of normal sentences so it can look equally retarded? As for what you said, rather than asked, the point is to have the ideas in the minds of multiple people, particularly developers? Whether or not they make it isn't even relevant to getting the topic discussed to see if it's worthwhile?

[Shadow87]

I never said I didn't agree with you Kat, All i meant by saying that is that if you are going to spend time posting your ideas here, why not help classic out by playing it and trying to make those ideas real, instead of just listing them here. If you cared enough to put them here, you should care enough to play classic.

And drama, its a good word to use for a lot of petty crap that happens here, because it is all drama, it isn't an excuse to not debate or argue. There is just to much talk here, and not enough getting done on the game.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

I never said I didn't agree with you Kat

That makes absolutely no difference to anything, unless you simply wanted me to know, but ok.

All i meant by saying that is that if you are going to spend time posting your ideas here, why not help classic out by playing it and trying to make those ideas real, instead of just listing them here.

If I'm going to be doing programming, I have my own project outside of Graal to spend that time on. I've also already stated, plenty of times (well, not all in this thread, I think), why doing ANYTHING on Classic is a nightmare.

If you cared enough to put them here, you should care enough to play classic.

In your opinion. I have zero interest in actually doing anything on the server as far as "playing" goes. I can't imagine why anyone does.

And drama, its a good word to use for a lot of petty crap that happens here, because it is all drama, it isn't an excuse to not debate or argue.

That's my point. You and others dismiss the arguments/discussions as unimportant, and label it "drama", as you just did again. People want changes, but don't want any sort of conflict, it seems. When this blindness is met with reality, it then becomes "drama" to them.

[fragman85]

yignoreme? :[

[Cetellic]

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

Question marks are good things. I think I'll start putting question marks at the end of normal sentences so it can look equally retarded? As for what you said, rather than asked, the point is to have the ideas in the minds of multiple people, particularly developers? Whether or not they make it isn't even relevant to getting the topic discussed to see if it's worthwhile?

why you gotta moan so much - whinin over people saying "drama" and now grammar errors LOL. It's pretty cool to look retarded though ; ) question marks at the end of normal sentences is gunna take it to a new level, alright what else? Spelling errors and 1337 speech YESH!!! Now I know everything I need to make the most reasonable response!!!

w311 w3 knw it wurth wh1le s0 y dscus.

Had to make it kind of short, typing like that takes alot of brain power!

Originally Posted by fragman85

yignoreme? :[

SHHHH DUDE!!! I'm tryin to look cool for all the 8 year olds!

[Shadow87]

So okay Kat, I get what you are saying, it makes sense, you just really do not like classic, but you want to continue posting here. Okay.

And I don't like conflict? heh, you obviously do not know me.

[BlackSolider]

Tats went out guns blazing from faq admin.

Respect.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

why you gotta moan so much - whinin over people saying "drama" and now grammar errors LOL. It's pretty cool to look retarded though ; ) question marks at the end of normal sentences is gunna take it to a new level, alright what else? Spelling errors and 1337 speech YESH!!! Now I know everything I need to make the most reasonable response!!!

w311 w3 knw it wurth wh1le s0 y dscus.

Had to make it kind of short, typing like that takes alot of brain power!

There was a more significant part of what you quoted, but since you chose only to focus on this, I'll comment on it. It's quite disrespectful to other people to force them to look through your laziness. The point isn't to insult you, it's to ease communication for the future. You might try looking at it objectively.

Originally Posted by Shadow87

Syou just really do not like classic, but you want to continue posting here

I don't like the server under the name "Classic" at present. I loved what it used to be, as in any point in time before the NPC Server. If I can do something tolerable to help get it back to a good point, I have no problem doing that. Posting here to change minds is something, but given the general lack of maturity and open-mindedness here, that's probably pretty pointless. Regardless, I still try.

And I don't like conflict? heh, you obviously do not know me.

You're right, I barely know anything about you or your past, but that isn't relevant. What I said was a generalized comment on my experience with various people and these situations, which seemed perfectly applicable to you in this case.


Uh oh, I'm pointing things out that people don't already see! It's "drama"!!! It's a negative thing and not constructive at all! Let's all just be endlessly ignorant of everything because informing people is "drama". That sounds like a great way to live. That wasn't directed at any one person, btw.

[Cetellic]

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

There was a more significant part of what you quoted, but since you chose only to focus on this, I'll comment on it.

dont act like I ignored it, I presented my statement in uber 1337-hard to read speech fashion which shows like uber disrespect to you in that case! So I think it was YOU who ignored ME!!!

[Rufus]

Man I wish someone would go through this crap and delete the petty arguments, they're kind of removing the actual focus of the thread and camouflaging posts that are relevant suggestions. The staff shouldn't have to go through everything just to get to note a suggestion someone has.

[jacob_bald6225]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Man I wish someone would go through this crap and delete the petty arguments, they're kind of removing the actual focus of the thread and camouflaging posts that are relevant suggestions. The staff shouldn't have to go through everything just to get to note a suggestion someone has.

Big whoop, wanna fight about it?

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Man I wish someone would go through this crap and delete the petty arguments, they're kind of removing the actual focus of the thread and camouflaging posts that are relevant suggestions. The staff shouldn't have to go through everything just to get to note a suggestion someone has.

Even arguments show how people feel about certain things. May not be desirable to go through them but they should be.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Man I wish someone would go through this crap and delete the petty arguments, they're kind of removing the actual focus of the thread and camouflaging posts that are relevant suggestions. The staff shouldn't have to go through everything just to get to note a suggestion someone has.

There is a suggestion forum and a suggestion NPC on the server if people really want to get their Idea known out there.

Though it may look like back and forth rambling, they do bring up some valid points. Better than a randomly oriented map

[BlackSolider]

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

I don't like the server under the name "Classic" at present. I loved what it used to be, as in any point in time before the NPC Server. If I can do something tolerable to help get it back to a good point, I have no problem doing that. Posting here to change minds is something, but given the general lack of maturity and open-mindedness here, that's probably pretty pointless. Regardless, I still try.

How long ago was the npc server implemented?

Now calculate the odds of getting ridding of it. Just don't tell Han Solo the odds.

Jokes aside, it is indeed apparent that there is a severe lack of maturity on graal overall, not just this forum.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

Even arguments show how people feel about certain things. May not be desirable to go through them but they should be.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

There is a suggestion forum and a suggestion NPC on the server if people really want to get their Idea known out there.

Though it may look like back and forth rambling, they do bring up some valid points. Better than a randomly oriented map

Minor suggestions do not need their own individual threads. People started to list minor changes, most minor changes were noted, and some minor changes were made. Discussions regarding the Game Coordinator team, how much the word "drama" is brought up, poor grammar, l33t sp34k, and Master Storm's activity are not the purpose of this thread, nor do they really accomplish anything.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

How long ago was the npc server implemented?

Now calculate the odds of getting ridding of it. Just don't tell Han Solo the odds.

Obviously my intent isn't to get the NPC server removed. You can still have something that functions very closely to the way everything did before the NPC server existed. Expecting that to ever get done without doing it myself is no doubt quite unrealistic though.

Originally Posted by Rufus

People started to list minor changes, most minor changes were noted, and some minor changes were made. Discussions regarding the Game Coordinator team, how much the word "drama" is brought up, poor grammar, l33t sp34k, and Master Storm's activity are not the purpose of this thread, nor do they really accomplish anything.

I agree that it detracts from being able to find things in a nice area, but you're adding to it yourself, you know. Moderators have the ability to clean it up if they really want that kind of thread.

[trifle]

Didn't read through the whole thread, but lots of nice things going on here.

I'd like AC back like it was, able to pause, able to have full health etc.
This will make pkers enjoy pking more then just doing it to boost their stats.

[Shadow87]

Well considering it is Graal, I am not surprised that there is a lack of maturity, its a child's game that we decided we would stick with. Most of us are mature in our real lives, but whats the fun of trying to be mature on a video game? That is not what video games are meant for!

And kat, i'm still not agreeing with this whole drama issue you have, I really do not see a lot of people calling out drama a lot to end arguments. Most of the time someone is telling someone else they are crying to much, but the argument continues. This isn't like a serious life issue, drama, and all that, it isn't that horrible as you make it sound. But it seems like you are on the same page as a lot of players, classic is a mess, it might as well be called Trash Paradise, and we'll get on with playing it.