Kingdom dungeons.

[ViperZakuto]

Since the trials have to go through the kingdom dungeons to get back and forth from islands. Could there be a pathway that leads to the entrance, or signs telling them there going the wrong way?

When i was trial i went 1.5 it took me 6-8 hours to find my way back through zormites dungeon. I doubt a trial, that hasn't played this game for 6 years on and off, would search for that long just to get back to main. They would probably just quit the game altogether. so thats not good business.

[CABAL49]

Why not just let them use boats?

[ViperZakuto]

that would work too

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Why not just let them use boats?

Yes, that would be the easiest solution. The trial's were only not allowed boat access due to the posibility of a trial accessing mainland through them during the times when trial island was around. So they should get access, but i don't see why they should be allowed to go to kingdom islands anyway... their items are now saved so them getting into the kingdom islands allows for trials to build houses... i believe after that happens, there will be little, or no difference between a gold account and a trial account...

[ViperZakuto]

trials need kingdom islands. that is the whole pointof the game. it's not called graal hack and slash...

[CABAL49]

Personally I think that they should bring back Start Island, allow trials to save and keep them there. Allow them to build huts, like houses but smaller and no furniture. There should only be one town were they do the quests and outside of it is forced Bmode.

[Ravenblade1979]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Personally I think that they should bring back Start Island, allow trials to save and keep them there. Allow them to build huts, like houses but smaller and no furniture. There should only be one town were they do the quests and outside of it is forced Bmode.

You know as much of a good idea as this is I doubt the staff really will make the effort to do something like this. They want the trials to be able to talk to us gold/vip members. As much as this was a good idea all we get are beggars/scammers now.

Maybe if enough of us actually pm Stefan he will bring back trial island but the change that should be made is very limited access to gold/vip's. We have everything we want. Let the trials have their own stuff.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You know as much of a good idea as this is I doubt the staff really will make the effort to do something like this. They want the trials to be able to talk to us gold/vip members. As much as this was a good idea all we get are beggars/scammers now.

Maybe if enough of us actually pm Stefan he will bring back trial island but the change that should be made is very limited access to gold/vip's. We have everything we want. Let the trials have their own stuff.

Yeah but this way is good for sales. How many people cam back and said why not i will do it. I sure did. if it wasn't like this I couldn't have gotten drawn back into the graal world.

how many people actually joins from trial island? not many, some but not many. most is through gold members that tell people about the game. now you can get the "full effect" with some limitations.

of course you're gonna have scammers. With new people come new scammers. there will always be scammers on gk.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

trials need kingdom islands. that is the whole pointof the game. it's not called graal hack and slash...

Yes, and if you want to play the game properly, you should pay. Seriously, Trials are saved now so there is little difference between gold/vip and trials, they shouldn't get kingdom island access, i think this is as far as i'd let them go. And the "whole pointof the game" is not for trials to be given every single benefit that gold/vip has except for table trade access.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You know as much of a good idea as this is I doubt the staff really will make the effort to do something like this. They want the trials to be able to talk to us gold/vip members. As much as this was a good idea all we get are beggars/scammers now.

Maybe if enough of us actually pm Stefan he will bring back trial island but the change that should be made is very limited access to gold/vip's. We have everything we want. Let the trials have their own stuff.

Do you mean like a seperate society that can't visit the mainland?

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

Yeah but this way is good for sales. How many people cam back and said why not i will do it. I sure did. if it wasn't like this I couldn't have gotten drawn back into the graal world.

how many people actually joins from trial island? not many, some but not many. most is through gold members that tell people about the game. now you can get the "full effect" with some limitations.

of course you're gonna have scammers. With new people come new scammers. there will always be scammers on gk.

Many people have joined GK from the trial isle. I didn't like it, but no game's nubville is any good... you want trial's to be the same as gold members, this is not the way forward.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Yes, and if you want to play the game properly, you should pay. Seriously, Trials are saved now so there is little difference between gold/vip and trials, they shouldn't get kingdom island access, i think this is as far as i'd let them go. And the "whole pointof the game" is not for trials to be given every single benefit that gold/vip has except for table trade access.



Do you mean like a seperate society that can't visit the mainland?



Many people have joined GK from the trial isle. I didn't like it, but no game's nubville is any good... you want trial's to be the same as gold members, this is not the way forward.

alright how many trials actually stay trial? they are limited. They can't use boats, can't participate in events, limited sized window, anf they have observer mode every 10 mins for 2-5 mins? how is this the same as gold/vip. Not many people will stay trial because of the headache it causes. I was trial for 1 week then upgraded.

Now when trials were on trial island. you couldn't get the full effect. most people would sign on and say "this sucks" I can't figure out anything. cause a lot of the people are kids. Trial island would turn away more heads then it would get.

You guys have to realize this is a business. this is the best way to get new gold members. There not gonna change it just because your tired of trials begging for stuff... maybe you guys should help out the trials to try and expand the gk community.

this games noobville is good and thats why it will have more and more people come in this way.

[CABAL49]

Start Island was great, you could explore the different classes better and you didn't have to go so far to craft stuff. I found out about Graal when I was bored and was looking for something to do. Start Island would be great for promotion, just being stuck there is limitation enough in my opinion.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Start Island was great, you could explore the different classes better and you didn't have to go so far to craft stuff. I found out about Graal when I was bored and was looking for something to do. Start Island would be great for promotion, just being stuck there is limitation enough in my opinion.

I remember thinking i was so smart, because there was a secluded mine there, but you had to roundhouse kick the mines, so i got like 2 diamonds before i went back to main.

That was hilarious, i loved those times.

[Ravenblade1979]

Yeah seperate island. I am sorry but when I was on trial island if I had the money I would have upgraded right away because it can get lonely. consider it extra incentive to get them to play.

[cyan3]

The Dungeons are fine and don't need to be changed. Like Sage said just let me be allowed to use ferries.

[Ravenblade1979]

Leon chill, Stefan's super busy. i don't know if you people realize this but he does work on more then just GK and he's super busy.

Googi has put up maps and I will make a site for trials to check out if they need to find their way back.

[CABAL49]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Leon chill, Stefan's super busy. i don't know if you people realize this but he does work on more then just GK and he's super busy.

That is the biggest problem with Kingdoms, with only a few people allowed to upload stuff how can the server get bigger?

[Ravenblade1979]

Why don't people bother Bjorn. He's supposed to be handling this stuff also.

[Tigairius]

How about we take GK back in time, where trials are not allowed to log on, trade room is PKable, things are fun again, and then improve off of that, by adding new features, new items, and new content? Ah well... I guess it's just a dream of mine.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

How about we take GK back in time, where trials are not allowed to log on, trade room is PKable, things are fun again, and then improve off of that, by adding new features, new items, and new content? Ah well... I guess it's just a dream of mine.

Quick and easy solution. But i'd like trials to log on in this new all pk server... i'll need to be 'helping' them...

[sage_scooby]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Quick and easy solution. But i'd like trials to log on in this new all pk server... i'll need to be 'helping' them...

That thought reminds me of classic pre p2p. When a newb started he had to walk the pk gauntlet from the newb house to the castle. Very frustrating.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by sage_scooby

That thought reminds me of classic pre p2p. When a newb started he had to walk the pk gauntlet from the newb house to the castle. Very frustrating.

fun times but dun remind me of those days... i miss my fishies

[Ravenblade1979]

Umm ok viper you have your points but your not on as much as I am. Believe me when I say a lot of those Graal###### accounts are trials. There is a lot you don't see and a lot i probably don't see.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Umm ok viper you have your points but your not on as much as I am. Believe me when I say a lot of those Graal###### accounts are trials. There is a lot you don't see and a lot i probably don't see.

very true. maybe they shouldn't be able to get good items. that is the one thing i agree with. But what about the trials that already ahve good items... eg people that have subscribed, but ran out of time? I don't see stefan writing a script on every single item in the game, cause he would have to do it one item at a time.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

But what about the trials that already ahve good items... eg people that have subscribed, but ran out of time? I don't see stefan writing a script on every single item in the game, cause he would have to do it one item at a time.

I think allowing old players who have ran out of gold time might upgrade again when they see what items/levels they had, they might want to come back.

[Ravenblade1979]

umm am talking about the new people just coming in not returning.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

umm am talking about the new people just coming in not returning.

now your makin the script even harder. Stefan and Bjorn don't like hard scripts, you should know this by now.

[ViperZakuto]

yeah that doesn't sound too hard. i see now.

thats cool, just limit the newer ones and not the older ones. just hope it's not too hard to do.