Graal dieing

[TheJames]

Anyone noticed, other then me, that Graal's dieing? I've been noticing this for about 2-3 months now. Slowly I see my friends quitting. Here I find myself doing the same. I log on and log off in like 5 minutes. Graal need's something new. New Globals, Classic Servers, Something to get more players. I really think the cost for such a non-attracting game is what get's at people and makes them not download it..
I talk to my friends they all say they'd play if they didn't have to pay $28.00. Unholy Nation is atleast trying something new to attract people. I remember it had over 230 players at times. Now there down to 100-150. Era.. Oh, don't even get me started on Era. Era's going through hell right now. No one likes Era anymore. The reset(s) the staff. The poorly qualified managers. It's all going to hell. But, I won't harp on Era's downfall, but theres a majority of players gone down the drain! Alright so we have so many servers to play on *Yay*, yet only 3-4 seem fun. The rest have like 10 players and no one can log on. Sure, we can buy a playerworld! But all of the plan's/ideas get shot down like a duck trying to fly away in duck season. Nothings new. No one responds on the Support Tickets. The only active global staff are extremely ****y and/or never log on. Stefan's busy with whatever, You can never get ahold of him. Maybe I'm just rambling on trying to buy some time in my Computer Applications class. But if any of you feel the same, please tell me so I dont feel like the only one who thinks Graal's dead.

[Shaun]

Ever since everything got p2p'ized, it's been a downward spiral of population. You just haven't been around long enough to see that.

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Ever since everything got p2p'ized, it's been a downward spiral of population. You just haven't been around long enough to see that.

I wouldn't say so, I don't think playercount is directly related to graals fall, but the lack of big updates recently more so contirbute to this over playercount which P2P caused.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

I hate to pick on any one playerworld, but I wonder why Shaded Legend is even on the classic list. It has decent content, but at peak times it just doesn't attract more than a 10-15 player range. It also lags a lot for me, but I guess that is my own computers issues.

[Polo]

Originally Posted by DarkShadows_Legend

I hate to pick on any one playerworld, but I wonder why Shaded Legend is even on the classic list. It has decent content, but at peak times it just doesn't attract more than a 10-15 player range. It also lags a lot for me, but I guess that is my own computers issues.

I find this comment somewhat poignant. Personally, I have always rated Shaded Legends, and have always been somewhat surprised that it hasn't gained the playercount it deserves.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Spark910

I wouldn't say so, I don't think playercount is directly related to graals fall, but the lack of big updates recently more so contirbute to this over playercount which P2P caused.

I thought Graal's fall meant there was a trend of a decreasing population.

Remember, the content is, for the most part, made by the players. How much of GraalOnline's content was made by Linux Cyberjoueurs employees? Graal depends on the volunteering players to develope the content. A decrease in the amount of players should result in a decrease in the amount of updates and content.

Again, I don't know what you mean by "Graal's fall." For me, it could only mean the population dropping Graal going bankrupt (which would be news to me).

[syltburk]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Ever since everything got p2p'ized, it's been a downward spiral of population. You just haven't been around long enough to see that.

Wasn't one of the reasons that you actually had to p2p everyone complainting about the ghost mode waiting to get in?

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by syltburk

Wasn't one of the reasons that you actually had to p2p everyone complainting about the ghost mode waiting to get in?

The time when people had to wait "in line" was when GraalOnline wasn't hosting other servers, when other servers were using 1.28 or 1.3 GServers. GraalOnline took it upon themselves to offer all those GServers free server space, then they turned around and said that holding those servers were too expensive, and charged for them.

If GraalOnline was really as good-intentioned as it originally tried to appear, then they would have continued releasing GServers with the latest Graal updates and they would have not hunted down the remaining of the GServers. Instead, they harvested the work others did. It continues to this day.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Shaun

GraalOnline took it upon themselves to offer all those GServers free server space, then they turned around and said that holding those servers were too expensive, and charged for them.

We never started to charge for the server space for servers like Classic or Atlantis. The playerworld space renting is good for both sides because people can open servers without needing to make tons of levels and submitting them and waiting months to get the approvement, and we have more time to work on improving the game instead of verifying the quality of levels which Graal players would like to do for us anyway.

Originally Posted by Shaun

Instead, they harvested the work others did.

Did Valve create Counterstrike? No, but they still made most of their money with the hype around that. Graal is not a normal game where the game company hires an amount of gfx people who work 6 months on the project, then release the thing in shop or as online game and 2 years later it is dieing.

[Shaun]

I've never played Counterstrike nor do I really know anything about it (it's a shooter, I think, and I'm not even remotely sure of that).

GraalOnline does charge users for the full use of those playerworlds though, through the players, does it not?

Why did GraalOnline stop releasing GServer?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Did Valve create Counterstrike? No, but they still made most of their money with the hype around that. Graal is not a normal game where the game company hires an amount of gfx people who work 6 months on the project, then release the thing in shop or as online game and 2 years later it is dieing.

Didnt the CS team get payed later on anyway? They WERE producing CD's mainly for CS and such...

[Silent]

Originally Posted by TheJames

No one responds on the Support Tickets.

They do, they just take a long time..

Originally Posted by TheJames

The only active global staff are extremely ****y

Partially true.

Originally Posted by TheJames

and/or never log on.

False.

Originally Posted by TheJames

Stefan's busy with whatever, You can never get ahold of him.

Perhaps you've never had a worthwhile reason for his attention? x_X;


Anyhow, possible solutions (which I'm sure have been suggested before, but here goes):

Lower account cost. $19.00 for 3 months of running around on a 2D futuristic game and a collapsing RP server? Not worth it.
Increase playerworld cost. Higher cost to start a server = less people running off to their own corners of Graal = more centralisation = (in this case) good.

[Chris]

What's dieing?

Anyway, Graal has been on a decline since p2p hit. I remember there being at least 1200 or so players on Graal at any given time. Now we're lucky if we get 600-700.

[xAndrewx]

You personally tried to attack Era and Unholy Nation, can you try again please?

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

You personally tried to attack Era and Unholy Nation, can you try again please?

He did not.