Graal Mac v3.15

Admins · #1 02-02-2005, 05:47 PM

The new Graal version for Mac is released:
http://www.graalonline.com/graal2001...alSetup.dmg.gz

- New look
- Works on Graal3D
- Speed improvements
- More stable
- New improved scripting engine
- Enhanced playerlist with PM history, mass messages and profiles
- Scripts can access the keys (e.g. Shift key)
- Copy&Paste is working
- Using the standard mouse for easier mouse control

If this new version is not working for you then please contact us ASAP.
There is also a testing version of the RemoteControl (without filebrowser), download that at
http://www.graalonline.com/graal2001...oads/RC.dmg.gz

**MysticalDragon** · #2 02-02-2005, 06:05 PM

Great Work! If i had a MAC i would try it, but then again i dont.

Skyld · #3 02-02-2005, 06:11 PM

I can imagine that Curt1zzle (or whatever he's called) will be most impressed.
Its nice to see Graal on more than one platform.

Admins · #4 02-02-2005, 06:30 PM

I got 33:9 kills on Zone when playing yesterday, so it should be fast enough for all servers

Sometimes I need to go on servers and fix their gfx, especially on Unholy Nation there are many images with bad transparency.

Rick · #5 02-02-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

I got 33:9 kills on Zone when playing yesterday, so it should be fast enough for all servers

Sometimes I need to go on servers and fix their gfx, especially on Unholy Nation there are many images with bad transparency.

Well, the default gralat "shine" image also has bad transparency.

Admins · #6 02-02-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Well, the default gralat "shine" image also has bad transparency.

Yes I know, need to fix that too.

Curt1zzle · #7 02-02-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

I can imagine that Curt1zzle (or whatever he's called) will be most impressed.
Its nice to see Graal on more than one platform.

You thought right.

I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl.

I wasn't excepting 3D capabilities...

Although, I'm asuming this doesn't come with the editor or remote control?

ZanderX · #8 02-02-2005, 10:31 PM

Yaaaaaaaaaaaay.

Skyld · #9 02-02-2005, 10:58 PM

I don't think its comes with the editor, and I suppose you could use the scripted RC on a Gscript2-enabled server.

Edit Only just noticed this :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

There is also a testing version of the RemoteControl (without filebrowser), download that at
http://www.graalonline.com/graal200...loads/RC.dmg.gz

Ajira · #10 02-02-2005, 11:15 PM

Nice, all that's left is the Windows version.

Curt1zzle · #11 02-02-2005, 11:27 PM

"The Application Graal Has Unexpectantly Quit" is the message I get after installing and opening the Graal client.

And the RC won't give me an error or anything, it just opens and closes immedietly. We're 0 for 2 so far...

My system specs are:

Mac OS X Version 10.3.7
1.33 GHz PowerPC G4
512 MB DDR SDRAM

Admins · #12 02-03-2005, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

"The Application Graal Has Unexpectantly Quit" is the message I get after installing and opening the Graal client.

And the RC won't give me an error or anything, it just opens and closes immedietly. We're 0 for 2 so far...

My system specs are:

Mac OS X Version 10.3.7
1.33 GHz PowerPC G4
512 MB DDR SDRAM

Ok for RC try to install this before:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/g...y.dmg?download

For the mouse input I will try to fix the thing and upload a new version tomorrow

Curt1zzle · #13 02-03-2005, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

Ok for RC try to install this before:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/g...y.dmg?download

For the mouse input I will try to fix the thing and upload a new version tomorrow

Ok, the RC connected and I logged on fine. Small bugs here and there , but it works. Awesome!

Everytime you talk, the text doubles over though hehe.

Admins · #14 02-03-2005, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Ok, the RC connected and I logged on fine. Small bugs here and there , but it works. Awesome!

Everytime you talk, the text doubles over though hehe.

Yes the GUI toolkit (GTK) is not completely finished, thats why version 0.7, may be I can fix some stuff when I get some time since we also want to use it for some future version of the Graal setup.

doomboy00 · #15 02-03-2005, 07:36 PM

Woo hoo!!!

New mac client, installing it now

Thanx Stefan

peace,
doomboy00

Skyld · #16 02-02-2005, 11:39 PM

What is in console.log?

Curt1zzle · #17 02-02-2005, 11:43 PM

console.log :

Quote:

//-------------------------- 2/2/2005 -- 15:26:44 -----
System & Processor Information:
MacOS version: 10.3.7
CarbonLib version: 1.6.0
Physical RAM: 512MB
Logical RAM: 2047MB
Unknown/PowerPC G4u ++, 1333 Mhz
FPU detected
AltiVec detected

Math Init:
Installing Standard C extensions
Installing FPU extensions

Input Init:
Basic mouse capture failed to enable!

Video Init:
Accelerated OpenGL display device detected.

Scanning folder structure of /Applications/Graal/...
Done.

Engine initialized...

--------- Initializing Graal 3D ---------
Compiling clientprefs3D.cs...
Activating the OpenGL display device...
Activating the OpenGL display device...
Cleaning up the display device...

Skyld · #18 02-03-2005, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Input Init:
Basic mouse capture failed to enable!

Possibly this? I don't know much about Macs.

Curt1zzle · #19 02-03-2005, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyld

Possibly this? I don't know much about Macs.

Well no kidding! :P

Hehe....Don't know what that means, though.

Ajira · #20 02-03-2005, 01:17 AM

It means it couldn't find your mouse. Lol.

Curt1zzle · #21 02-03-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajira

It means it couldn't find your mouse. Lol.

That's a bit too obvious. Must be a deeper meaning...

Hell, ill try plugging in a mouse instead of using the pad. Maybe that will fix it.

Curt1zzle · #22 02-03-2005, 01:56 AM

That didn't seem to fix it either , so here's my oficial user library error log report for Graal:

(Attaching file, too many characters to paste)

Mitch · #23 02-03-2005, 02:55 AM

Macs are always evil like that, get a computer with windows or something heh. There could be a chance it's not your computer but a bug with the mac client.

Curt1zzle · #24 02-03-2005, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch

Macs are always evil like that, get a computer with windows or something heh. There could be a chance it's not your computer but a bug with the mac client.

What an intelligent post.

Must I pick it apart, or can everyone clearly see through it?

On topic please, twit.

Projectshifter · #25 02-07-2005, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch

Macs are always evil like that, get a computer with windows or something heh. There could be a chance it's not your computer but a bug with the mac client.

Please don't promote buying computers with windows x.x

Also perhaps Curt's issues could be dealing with OpenGL support for video drivers or such. Perhaps also dealing with any opengl libraries that macs utilize. I'm not a fan of mac, nor do I use one often, but I know when I wanted to run Linux Graal it gave problems until I updated my vid drivers properly.

Kaimetsu · #26 02-07-2005, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

Please don't promote buying computers with windows x.x

Please don't act like a mindless zealot.

Curt1zzle · #27 02-08-2005, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Please don't act like a mindless zealot.

Please don't add to his mindless spamming of the thread.

Anyways, here's what I got when I tried to open the client this time, Stefan.

Admins · #28 02-08-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Please don't add to his mindless spamming of the thread.

Anyways, here's what I got when I tried to open the client this time, Stefan.

Hmmm seems to be some problem with the "Finder" now. Can you try this:
- Open a terminal
- go to the Graal folder (cd /Applications/Graal or so)
- type: ./Graal.app/Contents/MacOS/Graal

You can also post the console.log again?

Curt1zzle · #29 02-03-2005, 11:30 PM

Almost, but no cigar.

Now, instead of crashing, it did what the RC used to do before you gave me that other thing to install. It opens and closes really fast, with no error or anything.

I don't think the log is updating correctly, but here it is anyways:

Quote:

//-------------------------- 2/2/2005 -- 17:21:51 -----
System & Processor Information:
MacOS version: 10.3.7
CarbonLib version: 1.6.0
Physical RAM: 512MB
Logical RAM: 2047MB
Unknown/PowerPC G4u ++, 1333 Mhz
FPU detected
AltiVec detected

Math Init:
Installing Standard C extensions
Installing FPU extensions

Input Init:
Basic mouse capture failed to enable!

Video Init:
Accelerated OpenGL display device detected.

Scanning folder structure of /Applications/Graal/...
Done.

Engine initialized...

--------- Initializing Graal 3D ---------
Compiling clientprefs3D.cs...
Activating the OpenGL display device...
Activating the OpenGL display device...
Cleaning up the display device...

Admins · #30 02-04-2005, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Almost, but no cigar.

Now, instead of crashing, it did what the RC used to do before you gave me that other thing to install. It opens and closes really fast, with no error or anything.

I don't think the log is updating correctly, but here it is anyways:

Um that can't be the new console.log, try to delete and start again ?

Curt1zzle · #31 02-04-2005, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

Um that can't be the new console.log, try to delete and start again ?

The new installation didn't come with console.log.....

I believe that is made once the client crashes? Which means...when it opens and closes real fast, it's not qualifying as a crash....

Admins · #32 02-04-2005, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

The new installation didn't come with console.log.....

I believe that is made once the client crashes? Which means...when it opens and closes real fast, it's not qualifying as a crash....

You have installed it with the normal setup? You can also try to copy the setup.data/release folder manually to your hard drive and start Graal then ?

Curt1zzle · #33 02-04-2005, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

You have installed it with the normal setup? You can also try to copy the setup.data/release folder manually to your hard drive and start Graal then ?

Tried both ways 3 times, none of them works. It won't create the console.log file anymore - it just opens and closes very quickly.

Edit: Log on debug if you read this, so we can talk about the problems.

Mitch · #34 02-04-2005, 05:31 AM

Curt, you may think you are superior to the people on these forums. Your posts clearly tell me without a doubt that your trying to be a lot smarter then you really are. If you took the time to notice you would know that I was on topic and was simply saying that you would be better off with a different system. Mac computers lack the compatibility with a lot of games and just cause more trouble then they are worth. Before you start calling people a 'twit' you might want to try and actually listen to their suggestions.

Curt1zzle · #35 02-04-2005, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch

Curt, you may think you are superior to the people on these forums. Your posts clearly tell me without a doubt that your trying to be a lot smarter then you really are. If you took the time to notice you would know that I was on topic and was simply saying that you would be better off with a different system. Mac computers lack the compatibility with a lot of games and just cause more trouble then they are worth. Before you start calling people a 'twit' you might want to try and actually listen to their suggestions.

Listen, Mitch, I don't need some child coming into a thread for talking about the release of a Mac Graal client and rambling on about how I shouldn't use Mac.

Your ability to understand the reasoning behind my bash is apparently non-existant.

Apple computers don't lack compadibility, kid, games simply just aren't made for the platform because the ammount of users is fairly low. It wouldn't be a wise financial move for game producers to make them for a Mac platform.

I prefer Microsoft and Windows for my operating system at home on my PC, and OSX on my latops for multimedia, web design, and graphic design.

As far as them being inferior or not able to handle games - They're known for their excellent performance in multimedia and graphics. They're efficient enough for me to run a 1.33ghz processor and have it tower over any other laptop in its pricerange + $500.

Please, leave this thread if you're going to backseat bash my choice of operating system, ok kid?

doomboy00 · #36 02-04-2005, 10:07 AM

In 3.15 glad to see several things fixed
-Tile errors fixed (tiles no longer block movement)
-Not being able to walk through small gaps fixed
-Buddy list added (Thank you)
But for some reason my options won't save whether this is a bug, or my computer playing up i dont know.
I'm getting the same problem with 3.151 with it not opening (think its due to missing library or something) but 3.15 runs fine, but im not running panther.
The RC also seems to be very slow, but this could be down to not running panther, as panther is more reliable than 10.2. Hope to see how this comes along. for now ill stick with virtual pc because i need to view comments, and access files. But its great for if i just need to go on for an hour or so to help people out.

But thumbs up

Good job

doomboy00

Admins · #37 02-04-2005, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomboy00

But for some reason my options won't save whether this is a bug, or my computer playing up i dont know.
I'm getting the same problem with 3.151 with it not opening (think its due to missing library or something) but 3.15 runs fine, but im not running panther.

Yes there seems to be a problem with the startup, will upload a new version in a few minutes. In v3.151 the saving of options is fixed.

Update:
Ok uploaded the new version, at least the console.log should work now, please report whats happening

Mitch · #38 02-04-2005, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Listen, Mitch, I don't need some child coming into a thread for talking about the release of a Mac Graal client and rambling on about how I shouldn't use Mac.

Your ability to understand the reasoning behind my bash is apparently non-existant.

Apple computers don't lack compadibility, kid, games simply just aren't made for the platform because the ammount of users is fairly low. It wouldn't be a wise financial move for game producers to make them for a Mac platform.

I prefer Microsoft and Windows for my operating system at home on my PC, and OSX on my latops for multimedia, web design, and graphic design.

As far as them being inferior or not able to handle games - They're known for their excellent performance in multimedia and graphics. They're efficient enough for me to run a 1.33ghz processor and have it tower over any other laptop in its pricerange + $500.

Please, leave this thread if you're going to backseat bash my choice of operating system, ok kid?

That is quite funny, you actually think I'm a child. First off I don't know what your trying to prove attempting to insult me with bad gramar and words not used in the english language. I'm only trying to help you but your making the situation terribly worse. If that's all you can afford I'm fine with that but I wouldn't in any sense call me a child. If you consider someone with a doctorate and a 3.6 ghz processor a child you have issues. This argument can end now or it can keep going, I stick by what I said and suggest you to get one of the most common systems to avoid dealing with such problems.

Have you ever considered why the users of apple computers are fairly low? I'm not going to answer that question because I believe it is self-explanitory. I wish you the best on the mac version of graal stefan, curt whom ever.

ZanderX · #39 02-05-2005, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch

Have you ever considered why the users of apple computers are fairly low? I'm not going to answer that question because I believe it is self-explanitory. I wish you the best on the mac version of graal stefan, curt whom ever.

Because of PR, licensing, and business mistakes by Apple in the late 80s and mid 1990s. Not because of any UI problems, lack of developers, or major bugs or glitches.

doomboy00 · #40 02-04-2005, 05:55 PM

Ok, this one works again. But still the problem of the options not saving.
And what is with the client-rc thing? When im on RC and connect to UN with my client it says a client-RC has connected. But i cant do anything within my client on the rc, so what the point of this?

Thank you

doomboy00