An idea on conquer able isles

MKSLAYER · #1 04-25-2003, 04:09 PM

ok not going into a lengthy explanation since i included a .doc instead of a .txt and all my text got erased heres the brake down:
in this artical you'll find various idea's about the conquerable isle's and regular castles and wars.
things that might not be in there
have little fox holes and stuff buildable so archers have a safe place to fire.
have castle walls buildabe and they can be destroyed (just for conquer isle not for main castle)
same with gates as above
have the ship building places buildable as well. thanks and read teh attachment for more details

Kaiser2 · #2 04-25-2003, 04:12 PM

I like the idea, I also thought that there could be like...armored horses, for jousting and stuff

Satrek2000 · #3 04-25-2003, 04:19 PM

I like the general idea, too, but then again, why would an invincible horse need armor?

Kaiser2 · #4 04-25-2003, 04:21 PM

No, the armor gives you an ac bonus, since you're standing above a footmen, and he can't hit you that well.

Satrek2000 · #5 04-25-2003, 08:50 PM

What use is armor when you can't get hit anyway? If you add horse armor and lances, you have to make horses vulnerable...

Borgie · #6 04-25-2003, 09:06 PM

So why dont add horse battle?
But i love the ideas!

Kaiser2 · #7 04-25-2003, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Satrek2000
What use is armor when you can't get hit anyway? If you add horse armor and lances, you have to make horses vulnerable...

You can get hit while on a horse I'm pretty sure >.> or else mages will have a very easy time.

MKSLAYER · #8 04-26-2003, 08:48 PM

1) horses will have become vincable (word?)
2) Everything will be balanced so you dont have 10000000 chariots rushing into battle they would require a very long time to build because all the sites would be far apart probobly on opposite sides of map and each part would take a lot for instance:

1 Chariot Wheel:
18 wooden board
3 iron plate
15 nails
weight 150kg

1 Chariot Chassy (medium):
45 wooden board
16 iron plates (armor optional maybe but chariot=mega weak)
60 nails
26 cloth (floor and horse thing)
4 logs (3 for horse attachment thing 1 for cross bow post and other things)

Kaiser2 · #9 04-26-2003, 09:40 PM

Nonono, you don't make the horse killable, because the person riding it is what you're trying to kill, thus, attacking the horseman will hurt the rider, duh...

Tyhm · #10 04-28-2003, 11:59 PM

Classicstyle:

Chance of being knocked off by each blow = 100-HP%
At 0% HP, you fall of the horse. Period.
At 100% HP, you stay on the horse.
At 50% HP, there's a 50/50 chance a hit will unmount you.

Kaiser2 · #11 04-29-2003, 12:47 AM

I like Tyhm's idea, and getting back on a horse is somewhat difficult, and, of course, Tyhm is referring to being able to be damaged on a horse, correct?

Tyhm · #12 04-29-2003, 01:23 AM

Naturally

Satrek2000 · #13 04-29-2003, 02:27 PM

That sounds good - any maybe missile weapons have a chance to get the full melee chance to unmount the rider depending on the distance?
So while a melee has 50% chance to unmount, a missie on the same rider has 40% in 10 squares, 30% in 20 and so on...
And horse armor (which should slow the horse down, too) further decrease the chance of being kicked down... as well as providing armor for the rider

Kaiser2 · #14 04-29-2003, 08:30 PM

Yes, missile weapons should get the full force, such as if you're on a horse and get shot, you fall off instantly, unless you get a special type of horse armor that let's you stay on it.

Satrek2000 · #15 04-29-2003, 11:41 PM

Hm... I thought about it the other way arround, but what about a combination:
melee attacks damage the rider plus have a chance to drop the him with (100-hp%)
missile attacks deal damage as usual but their chance to unseat the rider drops with the distance - like (100-(hp%+squares distance)) - but they have a small chance (say 1/10) to tople the rider instantly.