Overrated?

[Knightoffrost]

Who here thinks the NPC Server is over rated? -Xerphier Dintch

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? The world may never know..

[AlexH]

me
cause i have seen most not all of the graal 2001 scripts that work without NPC Server
but some scripts do need it

[G_yoshi]

actually...I believe it is underrated......there are so many things you can do with it. And yes, several scripts on graal2001 can work without it.

I do not understand why you think it is overrated...even though i havent played with one yet, Just by looking at some of the commands and things it does, it is very good to have and use...

[AlexH]

im not saying its not useful but the only 2 main things I know of that it does are allows bomy pets (the best thing) and farming which i hate (i have seen another version of farming without it. It was good but not as good) the main reason i dont like farmin is that it takes toooooooooooooooooooooooo long

[Knightoffrost]

Ahhhh but you guy's forget! its not only the NPC server that makse up the impecible npcs on g2k1..its also the 30 or so secret commands kept from us by stefan >=(

[MoonAngel]

Originally posted by Knightoffrost
Ahhhh but you guy's forget! its not only the NPC server that makse up the impecible npcs on g2k1..its also the 30 or so secret commands kept from us by stefan >=(

or the commands TB3 and Er1c use in their scripts like downloading a map.txt from the server.. i have no clue how they did it =\

[Slaktmaster]

NPC server is a funny little thing you can do lots of yummy stuff with. Like the police on 2001 in the towns. Thats the best of NPC server!@

[Komieko]

Originally posted by MoonAngel


or the commands TB3 and Er1c use in their scripts like downloading a map.txt from the server.. i have no clue how they did it =\

NO!Stefan said how...just take a look at one of my topics in the general forum..Just search maps or soemthing.It doesn't use NPC server

[grim_squeaker_x]

You just set an NPC's image to the .txt file, Graal will download it then realize it is not an image and will just make the NPC no image for you, but it will have already downloaded the .txt file.

[MoonAngel]

Originally posted by Komieko

NO!Stefan said how...just take a look at one of my topics in the general forum..Just search maps or soemthing.It doesn't use NPC server

i was talking about commands, not npcs server =P and Er1c made it before Stefan revealed it.

[MoonAngel]

Originally posted by grim_squeaker_x
You just set an NPC's image to the .txt file, Graal will download it then realize it is not an image and will just make the NPC no image for you, but it will have already downloaded the .txt file.

heh, so this will work with .mid .wav or .mp3 too i guess..

[Knightoffrost]

yep yep

[Admins]

Stuff that is only possible with npcserver:
- pirate ships
- trading weapons (using the trading item)
- kingdoms game
- a non-cheatable money system

Stuff that can be done without but would
be very hard because it will be unbalanced
or very buggy:
- gralat 'plants'
- bomy pets (couldn't move outside a level)
- cs, ctf

Stuff that can be done without npcserver:
- railroads
- music instruments
- bomy player race
- fishing, crafting


You see, you can do nice stuff without the npcserver,
but it is missing the 'background': security and
stability. On the npcserver always everything is
the same and equal for all players, while with the old
client-side thing people can cheat or have advantage
because they are the 'npc-controller' (first player in
the level)

[Knightoffrost]

About that
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- trading weapons (using the trading item)
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Also i belive that make a trading npc item is possible without an npc server.. although it would be buggy and hard ... My friend thinks so 2..

[grim_squeaker_x]

Originally posted by Knightoffrost
About that
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Stuff that can be done without but would
be very hard because it will be unbalanced
or very buggy:
- gralat 'plants' <---Atlantis has done it bug free
- bomy pets (couldn't move outside a level)
- cs, ctf
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If that means that no gralats comming from bushes..

Nah, Gralat 'plants' are that if you lay a gralat on the ground that you get those collection of crystals... The not getting anything from bushes can just be set in serveroptions.txt (If you have a server that is )

[Knightoffrost]

Well i've never seen that in a server options text b4 >=( but good to know

[SkooL]

Originally posted by Knightoffrost
Who here thinks the NPC Server is over rated?

...

Originally posted by CrazedMerlin
bend your processor till it snaps for such a stupid comment.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by grim_squeaker_x
Nah, Gralat 'plants' are that if you lay a gralat on the ground that you get those collection of crystals... The not getting anything from bushes can just be set in serveroptions.txt (If you have a server that is )

i think he was talking about the flower mines

[G_yoshi]

*BUMP*

[grim_squeaker_x]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


i think he was talking about the flower mines

Oooohhh, I thought he was talking about getting gralats from bushes

[Admins]

Oh hehe i meant laying down gralats.
It can be done with putnpc but when you
enable putnpc then hackers might abuse it.

[Er1c]

Originally posted by Stefan
Oh hehe i meant laying down gralats.
It can be done with putnpc but when you
enable putnpc then hackers might abuse it.

If you disable putnpc will putnpc2 still work?

[Admins]

putnpc2 only exists on npcserver and cannot be disabled,
while putnpc only exists without npcserver

[G_yoshi]

what is the difference between the two?

[grim_squeaker_x]

Originally posted by G_yoshi
what is the difference between the two?

putnpc is: putnpc image,txtfile,x,y;, while putnpc2 is: putnpc2 x,y,{script;};

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by grim_squeaker_x
putnpc is: putnpc image,txtfile,x,y;, while putnpc2 is: putnpc2 x,y,{script;};

hmm....i see, since the npc server doesnt handle images directly...
*intrigued*

[Jerom]

I've heard of many things dealing with the NPC server in the past.
I KNOW there are two commands that allow NPCs to walk levels, and to not walk levels.
Although I wish there were a command that would set a limit as to which levels an NPC would walk, almost like giving it a few level names of what the NPC was allowed to be in.

[Er1c]

Jerom, you're talking about canwarp and canwarp2. The command to stop NPCs from warping is cannotwarp (im pretty sure thats it, dont use it much, if you dont want an NPC to warp you just dont put the canwarp statement in there...).