Pirates at the big 5 meeting.

Craigus · #1 07-31-2005, 08:38 PM

At the RP meeting between all 5 kingdoms the pirates chose to patrol the samurai shores, after boarding 2 of thier boats i had trouble finding a pirate in b mode.. apart from kilik, they were also shouting all kinds of abuse etc, the RP'ing standards of these pirates at the event was disgraceful.

Zurkiba · #2 07-31-2005, 10:21 PM

The Governess in the summit kept shouting OOC stuff like
'It's only a game'

Alan was doing the same thing, only not as bad.

Draenin · #3 07-31-2005, 10:27 PM

Please excuse me while I cry myself to sleep.

Raziel · #4 08-01-2005, 02:22 AM

On another note, I hear the Samurai presence at the summit was nothing short of pathetic...

Craigus · #5 08-01-2005, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Raziel

On another note, I hear the Samurai presence at the summit was nothing short of pathetic...

Hm i felt the Samurai did well, we had navel vessels guarding, a guard for the castle, samurai patrolling the island, it all went rather smoothly, we also delt with the pirate attacks, if it is thier RP as a whole you are slaming its true it is not perfect, but they did try which is more then i can say for atleast most of the pirates.

Cheops · #6 08-01-2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Craigus

Hm i felt the Samurai did well, we had navel vessels guarding, a guard for the castle, samurai patrolling the island, it all went rather smoothly, we also delt with the pirate attacks, if it is thier RP as a whole you are slaming its true it is not perfect, but they did try which is more then i can say for atleast most of the pirates.

You had ONE vessel guarding the island when the pirate boats arrived. It was sunk. You never had more than two ships in the water during the summit at any given time, and those were sunk in minutes. I'm thinking that's what Raziel was referring to.

VulcanP2P · #7 08-01-2005, 02:39 AM

He was commenting on the immature Samurai in the embassy. Bosh agrees that they were very immature.

Debaglio · #8 08-01-2005, 03:27 AM

The summit was a joke.....

Zurkiba · #9 08-01-2005, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Debaglio

The summit was a joke.....

You know because you was there yes?

GryffonDurime · #10 08-01-2005, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba

You know because you was there yes?

Of course he was! Remember, he was on that secondary trial account, evading his ban.

MadScience7 · #11 08-01-2005, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Craigus

At the RP meeting between all 5 kingdoms the pirates chose to patrol the samurai shores, after boarding 2 of thier boats i had trouble finding a pirate in b mode.. apart from kilik, they were also shouting all kinds of abuse etc, the RP'ing standards of these pirates at the event was disgraceful.

I think he's just mad because Kilik owned him. But there's no doubt the Pirates can use some improvement in RP, that's a valid point. We are trying, with a training program for new members. So I hope you see some improvement next time we cross paths.

Governor Alan Steele - Crescent Pirates

Zurkiba · #12 08-01-2005, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MadScience7

I think he's just mad because Kilik owned him. But there's no doubt the Pirates can use some improvement in RP, that's a valid point. We are trying, with a training program for new members. So I hope you see some improvement next time we cross paths.

Governor Alan Steele - Crescent Pirates

I'm afraid that the leadership there of needs training also :/

Craigus · #13 08-01-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MadScience7

I think he's just mad because Kilik owned him. But there's no doubt the Pirates can use some improvement in RP, that's a valid point. We are trying, with a training program for new members. So I hope you see some improvement next time we cross paths.

Governor Alan Steele - Crescent Pirates

Perhaps you didn't notice that kilik was the only pirate i actually praised, he alone was in b mode and the 2 peaceful mode people left on the boat after i had taken over it let him on the boat, and after a intense battle i was forced to abandon ship...still those 2 peaceful moders who i couldn't do anything about wouldn;t of been there if they were not p mode

Discharge · #14 08-02-2005, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MadScience7

I think he's just mad because Kilik owned him. But there's no doubt the Pirates can use some improvement in RP, that's a valid point. We are trying, with a training program for new members. So I hope you see some improvement next time we cross paths.

Governor Alan Steele - Crescent Pirates

You've been trying for an awful long time. Role-playing is very simple; they don’t need training, they need to follow the rules of role-playing.

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xAndrewx · #15 08-01-2005, 09:27 AM

I have a couple of screenshots with the pirates not being in character.
One of them saying 'LOL LOOK AT THE NOOB!!'.
Not to sure if it was a war or not,
but only 1 member of the Pirate fleet
was battle mode.
My lightning took care of that though :-).

I couldn't attend the summit, I was too busy protecting the Samurai island.
The 'event' was fun though. I loved it, :-). Thanks

Cheops · #16 08-01-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I have a couple of screenshots with the pirates not being in character.
One of them saying 'LOL LOOK AT THE NOOB!!'.
Not to sure if it was a war or not,
but only 1 member of the Pirate fleet
was battle mode.
My lightning took care of that though :-).

I couldn't attend the summit, I was too busy protecting the Samurai island.
The 'event' was fun though. I loved it, :-). Thanks

I didn't meet any samurai in the battle that was IC, unless "omfg lag is glitching my boat" is Japanese for something. RP is something ALL kingdoms could be better at, I feel it's unfair for CP to be singled out---really, pirates sink boats, and in that respect I'd say we RPed the sinkosity well.

P.S. Yes, I know "sinkosity" is a made up word, trust me, I'm a fluent speaker of English as my second language.

xAndrewx · #17 08-01-2005, 10:03 AM

Who exactly said that Cheops? There was 3 people vs the Pirates.
Name and shame the person!

Cheops · #18 08-01-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Who exactly said that Cheops? There was 3 people vs the Pirates.
Name and shame the person!

I like the person that said that---no namedropping from me. However it wasn't the only OOC samurai comment made. Sometimes you just can't help and make OOC comments, especially when the circumstances are such that it overruns IC aspects of the RP. Maybe not excusable but understandable. Also, I feel like people expect at least an "arrr" or "har" or "ahoy" or "avast" per sentence from us, otherwise it's "bad RP." But unlike most kingdoms, our ranks are filled with very diverse people (former elves, Dustarians, samurai) who don't experience a change in diction just because they join CP.

But as Alan already said, we're working on it. First thing's first: gotta walk the walk before you talk the talk.

P.S. In total, over the span of the summit, there were 5 people involved against the pirate blockade (not counting you, since I didn't notice you, but I did notice your spells---that would make 6).

xAndrewx · #19 08-01-2005, 11:03 AM

I can count 4 from the Samurai fleet.
Myself, Craigus, Tenjin and [forgot their name, know the account though].
Anyway, that's not the point. As long as we had fun, I sure did.
Please just make it more fun, go battle mode. So we can invade ships etc.

Cheops · #20 08-01-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I can count 4 from the Samurai fleet.
Myself, Craigus, Tenjin and [forgot their name, know the account though].
Anyway, that's not the point. As long as we had fun, I sure did.
Please just make it more fun, go battle mode. So we can invade ships etc.

Can't really expect that from new members who are still developing their character. Besides, there's the obvious point that if you can't kill them, they can't kill you.

The b/p-mode dilemma is a valid one, though, but I can see LOTS of new members being discouraged from RPing if it means they can be run down by a lvl 110, who'll deplete their plat and diamonds and may even make them drop an ammy. Maybe instead of dropping loot when you die, players should be warped to some nether region for like 10 minutes of gameplay? But I digress, this is the wrong thread to say this in, but I'm saying it anyway.

Raziel · #21 08-01-2005, 10:01 PM

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Maybe instead of dropping loot when you die, players should be warped to some nether region for like 10 minutes of gameplay? But I digress, this is the wrong thread to say this in, but I'm saying it anyway.

I like this idea ^. 10 minutes in the dead zone when you die instead of dropping plat and items. It would definetely encourage more people to get into bmode.

Zurkiba · #22 08-01-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raziel

I like this idea ^. 10 minutes in the dead zone when you die instead of dropping plat and items. It would definetely encourage more people to get into bmode.

Nah, to encourage people to go in bmode, you make it more equal.

Raziel · #23 08-01-2005, 10:11 PM

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Nah, to encourage people to go in bmode, you make it more equal.

To make it more equal, you work your ass off to level up more

, and the work pays off. I know level 10 or whatever you are was not bad at all back when you got to it, so who says you can't get up to a nice level today?

Cheops · #24 08-01-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Nah, to encourage people to go in bmode, you make it more equal.

Make what more equal, you mean make both Zurkiba and Cheops controllers of 3/4 of the world? Or you mean make both Zurkiba and Cheops lvl 8?

Draenin · #25 08-01-2005, 12:24 PM

Okay, so some kingdom members went out of character a bit. What do you want done about it? I don't think it's all that big of a deal. Most of the people on GK should be able to handle a lot that's said to them. Especially you, Craig. The event went on like it should've with a few hitches here and there. You can't expect everyone to act as they should.

xAndrewx · #26 08-01-2005, 01:01 PM

When a kingdom invades another kingdom, we expect them to be battle mode.

Zurkiba · #27 08-01-2005, 05:16 PM

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When a kingdom invades another kingdom, we expect them to be battle mode.

No, because that's using ooc items in a roleplaying event. And I know I'm not going to spend a week levelling up and getting good gear just so that I can roleplay.

xAndrewx · #28 08-01-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba

No, because that's using ooc items in a roleplaying event. And I know I'm not going to spend a week levelling up and getting good gear just so that I can roleplay.

You expect to not be killed, when roleplaying?

Zurkiba · #29 08-01-2005, 05:36 PM

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You expect to not be killed, when roleplaying?

Actually, Zurkiba Zaeri is going to die at the hands of the Drow soon.

However, I do know that a Queen of Dustari from a while back (Zoe) could kill me in one hit. And I'm sure that a Queen of Dustari wouldn't be able to kill the Elder Zurkiba Zaeri- conquerer of the Bomy Nation, slayer of the Samurai nation, controller of 3/4s of the world.

Googi · #30 08-02-2005, 04:50 AM

Hybriding RP and PK a bit is okay, and even good. Valikorlia, where there was no actual fighting in RPing, sucked. The only problem is that everyone needs to be on an equal level during the fighting, like it was on 2K1. That's why there should be a kingdom mode.

MadScience7 · #31 08-01-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

When a kingdom invades another kingdom, we expect them to be battle mode.

We didn't invade Samurai, which is why b-mode wasn't required (although Criagus has a good point about boarding and taking ships, so next time in a similar circumstance I will require it). This part of the event was meant to be a naval engagement with the huge Samurai fleet - some good ole bloody fun with Samurai Renjin and his boys. After all, who could advertise fielding a big fleet on forums and not expect to attract the attention of bloodthirsty Pirates.

Overall, I thought the battles and interactions were handled well on both sides, with a few RP violations that can be dealt with and learned from.

Draenin · #32 08-01-2005, 01:25 PM

I'm confused. At first, Bosh was trudging around saying, "Blast those Pirates and their blockade!" But then when Alan arrived things went normal. I know Bosh also said something about a change of plans, so perhaps it was to stop the fighting on the seas? Fill me in.

xAndrewx · #33 08-01-2005, 02:24 PM

When Alan arrived, the pirates began to attack Samurai. While you were in the Embassy at the Summit, Samurai members were protecting our island.

Draenin · #34 08-01-2005, 04:26 PM

The sequence in which I saw things was 1.) Bosh Complaining, 2.) Bosh talking of a change of plans, 3.) Alan arriving. It's no big deal, though. Just trying to clear up some confusion.

xAndrewx · #35 08-01-2005, 05:29 PM

Hehe, I enjoyed it. Was alot of fun ;-). We only used 1 ship from the shipyard. We had like 11 left, hehe.

Draenin · #36 08-01-2005, 05:34 PM

Thanks for the word, Alan. =]

Draenin · #37 08-01-2005, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba

controller of 3/4s of the world.

Zurkiba · #38 08-01-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

Well, of the 2k1 landmass...

The Zormites conquered the Samurai, in which they were granted the old lands of Dustari, thusly the only quadrant not controlled by Zormites were the Karakaze lands and the wilderness of the north east.

xAndrewx · #39 08-01-2005, 10:52 PM

Shawn, have you ever seen 'rp-strength' on Graal Kingdoms recently?

Butz · #40 08-01-2005, 10:54 PM

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Shawn, have you ever seen 'rp-strength' on Graal Kingdoms recently?

Not recently, and that's what should be fixed. Not forcing roleplayers to level up just so they can do what they should be allowed to do from the start.