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Old 07-12-2003, 04:48 AM
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Graal 3D (Only for VIPs)
Ok this is on the GraalOnline.com site:

"Graal 3D is targeted towards high end PC users and uses a very advanced 3D engine. Graal 3D will be available in 1st Quarter 2003 as a Preview to VIP Members More details will be available to the public once as we prepare the game for beta-testing."

So us VIP members who upgraded so we could enjoy this miss out on everything and basically had our money stollen from us?
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Old 07-12-2003, 05:28 AM
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well there is no graal 3d for you to play is there?
so apparently the answer is yes.
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Old 07-12-2003, 05:51 AM
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Old 07-12-2003, 06:24 AM
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This is not stuck we just wanted to finish PlayerWorld renting and new scripting engine before working on Graal3d.

About VIP it's only 19$ for a year and it give lot options including forums, PlayerWorld renting, Guilds, Testing of New Graal version ...

About Graal3D it was never announced to be reserved to VIP but more to be made as a preview first for VIP.
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Old 07-12-2003, 07:46 AM
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This is not stuck we just wanted to finish PlayerWorld renting and new scripting engine before working on Graal3d.

About VIP it's only 19$ for a year and it give lot options including forums, PlayerWorld renting, Guilds, Testing of New Graal version ...

About Graal3D it was never announced to be reserved to VIP but more to be made as a preview first for VIP.
Great, now we can see Graal3d after this

Is Graal GBA still being planned out/being worked on?
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Old 07-12-2003, 07:46 AM
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how come we still cant make guilds? =(
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Old 07-12-2003, 07:50 AM
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It'll probably suck.. =x
i am quite unimpresed with the quality screenshots ive seen, sorry to say
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Old 07-12-2003, 08:06 AM
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i am quite unimpresed with the quality screenshots ive seen, sorry to say
The one you're thinking of probably is the old, old release.
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Old 07-12-2003, 09:30 AM
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The one you're thinking of probably is the old, old release.
I dunno, he's probably talking about the screenshots based on the tribes 2 engine...I don't like them either.
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Old 07-12-2003, 11:04 AM
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This is not stuck we just wanted to finish PlayerWorld renting and new scripting engine before working on Graal3d.

About VIP it's only 19$ for a year and it give lot options including forums, PlayerWorld renting, Guilds, Testing of New Graal version ...

About Graal3D it was never announced to be reserved to VIP but more to be made as a preview first for VIP.
The problem is those who had gold already had forums, nobody uses guilds (well cant). And the other two arent that appealing to some, thats their concerns.
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Old 07-12-2003, 01:13 PM
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Old 07-13-2003, 02:52 AM
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This is not stuck we just wanted to finish PlayerWorld renting and new scripting engine before working on Graal3d.

About VIP it's only 19$ for a year and it give lot options including forums, PlayerWorld renting, Guilds, Testing of New Graal version ...

About Graal3D it was never announced to be reserved to VIP but more to be made as a preview first for VIP.
actually I think it's leaning mroe towards the "stolen". No one should have upgraded until this was all complete,and the 3D was actually on the list. Here are my reasons for thnking this.

1.I knew it would take forever to make the Graal3D.I doubt it will be finished anytime soon.
2.Playerworld renting doesnt require VIP to buy,or to use so what does it have to do with the purchase of a VIP membership?
3.Guilds...Still havent been able to be created,or updated. So there's another loss for upgrading to VIP.
4.Testing of new graal version...what exactly is so good about that? Only thing that was different was a minor lag fix,and a different header bar.

The only good thing is the Forum access,and that cool VIP tag . I think you should have put future things for VIP's rather than an unreliable time set for things to be released. You also need to allow players to speak. This would boost player motivation to help you out more. Hire some GM's. I bet some would work for a little or no money. I know I would. I know you can full through though unixmad,you have before.
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:05 AM
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Actually, you need a vip/gold account to buy a playerworld..since you need one to log into graal.net
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Old 07-13-2003, 04:00 AM
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Actually, you need a vip/gold account to buy a playerworld..since you need one to log into graal.net
He's just saying that if you have gold, then there's currently no reason to get VIP
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Old 07-13-2003, 04:56 AM
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To tell the truth, I upgraded VIP to support Graal.
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Old 07-13-2003, 05:30 AM
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I don't see why you have VIP and Gold. Why not just have one, instead of trying to leech as much money off of customers as you can?

Instead of trying to find ways of getting more money off of the customers you have, i'd find ways to keep your customers happy, and attract new customers (like not abandoning 2k1 or classic, not having both VIP AND Gold...)
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:45 AM
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I don't see why you have VIP and Gold. Why not just have one, instead of trying to leech as much money off of customers as you can?

Instead of trying to find ways of getting more money off of the customers you have, i'd find ways to keep your customers happy, and attract new customers (like not abandoning 2k1 or classic, not having both VIP AND Gold...)
GraalOnline staff didnt abandoned Classic,and 2k1...Poor management on both fo the servers led to the fall,which led to players liking other more active management servers.
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:52 AM
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GraalOnline staff didnt abandoned Classic,and 2k1...Poor management on both fo the servers led to the fall,which led to players liking other more active management servers.
GraalOnline staff did abandon G2k1 and Classic, you twit :grin: .
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Old 07-13-2003, 07:03 AM
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GraalOnline staff did abandon G2k1 and Classic, you twit :grin: .
Not really. but if you say so. The managment team was just poorly chosen.
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Old 07-13-2003, 07:20 AM
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Not really. but if you say so. The managment team was just poorly chosen.
Let's see, when's the last time Stefan did anything for Classic or 2k1?
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Old 07-13-2003, 07:26 AM
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I think the extra $5 to have VIP included in my gold subscription was well worth the cool tag and any other feature(s) included. :-D As for you guys who paid $20...E> Sorry, I know...it sucks. Bring back guilds and Bhala's management, and all of Graal is happy. Then people can go back to having all sorts of fun...making guilds like "Sexy Crew"...and all the others.
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Old 07-13-2003, 07:53 AM
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I think the extra $5 to have VIP included in my gold subscription was well worth the cool tag and any other feature(s) included. :-D As for you guys who paid $20...E> Sorry, I know...it sucks. Bring back guilds and Bhala's management, and all of Graal is happy. Then people can go back to having all sorts of fun...making guilds like "Sexy Crew"...and all the others.
What ever happened to Bhala. I went on vacation talked to him before I left...I come back and no AiM,no graal,no forums no nothing.
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Old 07-13-2003, 11:14 AM
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People who bought VIP and VIP honestly have no right to complain. Everything about VIP was clearly stated and you are getting what you paid for, and you can't expect it all to happen on the dot and right this minute.
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Old 07-13-2003, 11:18 AM
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People who bought VIP and VIP honestly have no right to complain. Everything about VIP was clearly stated and you are getting what you paid for, and you can't expect it all to happen on the dot and right this minute.
Agreed, unless many of the features are not present by the time the membership runs out
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Old 07-13-2003, 11:25 AM
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Agreed, unless many of the features are not present by the time the membership runs out
Yes, I agree here. Only in this instance would I be inclined to change my statement.
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Old 07-13-2003, 02:46 PM
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People who bought VIP and VIP honestly have no right to complain. Everything about VIP was clearly stated and you are getting what you paid for, and you can't expect it all to happen on the dot and right this minute.

i disagree
whenever i buy a tv and take it home i expect it to work perfectly
not only change between 3 channels
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:43 PM
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People who bought VIP and VIP honestly have no right to complain. Everything about VIP was clearly stated and you are getting what you paid for, and you can't expect it all to happen on the dot and right this minute.

They aren't unreasonable to expect what was promised to them, however.
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Old 07-13-2003, 04:28 PM
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They aren't unreasonable to expect what was promised to them, however.
Really...unixmad even set dates.

And it isnt stefans fault for the poor quality of 2k1 and classics past its the MANAGEMENT.
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:19 PM
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i disagree
whenever i buy a tv and take it home i expect it to work perfectly
not only change between 3 channels
but the TV would only get a few channels without you paying for cable or satellite.
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Old 07-13-2003, 09:06 PM
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but the TV would only get a few channels without you paying for cable or satellite.
ok put it this way, he doesnt expect to get a new sterio and speakers and everything and expect to only get one station
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I JUST upgraded to VIP like five minutes ago...I only did it so i can bug all of you forum olbies And so i can get that cool tag and make everyone think im cool! heehee....One time i got a Demo of Graal3d it was a bunch of colored block and a fat ugly not even that 3d guy jumping up and down on them..like the newbie outfit 3d...i wish i still had it..i got it on some website heehee..Wheres the VIP only forum btw?
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