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Aknts 07-12-2003 04:48 AM

Graal 3D (Only for VIPs)
 
Ok this is on the GraalOnline.com site:

"Graal 3D is targeted towards high end PC users and uses a very advanced 3D engine. Graal 3D will be available in 1st Quarter 2003 as a Preview to VIP Members More details will be available to the public once as we prepare the game for beta-testing."

So us VIP members who upgraded so we could enjoy this miss out on everything and basically had our money stollen from us?

Geno 07-12-2003 05:28 AM

well there is no graal 3d for you to play is there?
so apparently the answer is yes.

CasanovaCanavi 07-12-2003 05:51 AM

It'll probably suck.. =x

unixmad 07-12-2003 06:24 AM

This is not stuck we just wanted to finish PlayerWorld renting and new scripting engine before working on Graal3d.

About VIP it's only 19$ for a year and it give lot options including forums, PlayerWorld renting, Guilds, Testing of New Graal version ...

About Graal3D it was never announced to be reserved to VIP but more to be made as a preview first for VIP.

Nitkizi 07-12-2003 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
This is not stuck we just wanted to finish PlayerWorld renting and new scripting engine before working on Graal3d.

About VIP it's only 19$ for a year and it give lot options including forums, PlayerWorld renting, Guilds, Testing of New Graal version ...

About Graal3D it was never announced to be reserved to VIP but more to be made as a preview first for VIP.

Great, now we can see Graal3d after this :D

Is Graal GBA still being planned out/being worked on?

DenoriZakarum 07-12-2003 07:46 AM

how come we still cant make guilds? =(

Andy0687 07-12-2003 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by CasanovaCanavi
It'll probably suck.. =x
i am quite unimpresed with the quality screenshots ive seen, sorry to say

Judge_S 07-12-2003 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by Andy0687


i am quite unimpresed with the quality screenshots ive seen, sorry to say

The one you're thinking of probably is the old, old release.

superb 07-12-2003 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by Judge_S


The one you're thinking of probably is the old, old release.

I dunno, he's probably talking about the screenshots based on the tribes 2 engine...I don't like them either.

Spark910 07-12-2003 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
This is not stuck we just wanted to finish PlayerWorld renting and new scripting engine before working on Graal3d.

About VIP it's only 19$ for a year and it give lot options including forums, PlayerWorld renting, Guilds, Testing of New Graal version ...

About Graal3D it was never announced to be reserved to VIP but more to be made as a preview first for VIP.

The problem is those who had gold already had forums, nobody uses guilds (well cant). And the other two arent that appealing to some, thats their concerns.

Crono 07-12-2003 01:13 PM

LoL, the Graal Beta 3 (the 3D one with characters that look like stefan's signature) is/was fun. I, somehow, got my hands on it ages ago but lost it ;X

TripleE 07-13-2003 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
This is not stuck we just wanted to finish PlayerWorld renting and new scripting engine before working on Graal3d.

About VIP it's only 19$ for a year and it give lot options including forums, PlayerWorld renting, Guilds, Testing of New Graal version ...

About Graal3D it was never announced to be reserved to VIP but more to be made as a preview first for VIP.

actually I think it's leaning mroe towards the "stolen". No one should have upgraded until this was all complete,and the 3D was actually on the list. Here are my reasons for thnking this.

1.I knew it would take forever to make the Graal3D.I doubt it will be finished anytime soon.
2.Playerworld renting doesnt require VIP to buy,or to use so what does it have to do with the purchase of a VIP membership?
3.Guilds...Still havent been able to be created,or updated. So there's another loss for upgrading to VIP.
4.Testing of new graal version...what exactly is so good about that? Only thing that was different was a minor lag fix,and a different header bar.

The only good thing is the Forum access,and that cool VIP tag:rolleyes: . I think you should have put future things for VIP's rather than an unreliable time set for things to be released. You also need to allow players to speak. This would boost player motivation to help you out more. Hire some GM's. I bet some would work for a little or no money. I know I would. I know you can full through though unixmad,you have before. :)

Nitkizi 07-13-2003 03:05 AM

Actually, you need a vip/gold account to buy a playerworld..since you need one to log into graal.net

superb 07-13-2003 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by Nitkizi
Actually, you need a vip/gold account to buy a playerworld..since you need one to log into graal.net
He's just saying that if you have gold, then there's currently no reason to get VIP

protagonist 07-13-2003 04:56 AM

To tell the truth, I upgraded VIP to support Graal.

brock128 07-13-2003 05:30 AM

I don't see why you have VIP and Gold. Why not just have one, instead of trying to leech as much money off of customers as you can?

Instead of trying to find ways of getting more money off of the customers you have, i'd find ways to keep your customers happy, and attract new customers (like not abandoning 2k1 or classic, not having both VIP AND Gold...)

TripleE 07-13-2003 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by brock128
I don't see why you have VIP and Gold. Why not just have one, instead of trying to leech as much money off of customers as you can?

Instead of trying to find ways of getting more money off of the customers you have, i'd find ways to keep your customers happy, and attract new customers (like not abandoning 2k1 or classic, not having both VIP AND Gold...)

GraalOnline staff didnt abandoned Classic,and 2k1...Poor management on both fo the servers led to the fall,which led to players liking other more active management servers.

tlf288 07-13-2003 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by TripleE

GraalOnline staff didnt abandoned Classic,and 2k1...Poor management on both fo the servers led to the fall,which led to players liking other more active management servers.

GraalOnline staff did abandon G2k1 and Classic, you twit :grin: .

TripleE 07-13-2003 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288


GraalOnline staff did abandon G2k1 and Classic, you twit :grin: .

Not really. but if you say so. The managment team was just poorly chosen.

superb 07-13-2003 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by TripleE
Not really. but if you say so. The managment team was just poorly chosen.
Let's see, when's the last time Stefan did anything for Classic or 2k1? :)

Ziro_Vitrudestec 07-13-2003 07:26 AM

I think the extra $5 to have VIP included in my gold subscription was well worth the cool tag and any other feature(s) included. :-D As for you guys who paid $20...E> Sorry, I know...it sucks. Bring back guilds and Bhala's management, and all of Graal is happy. Then people can go back to having all sorts of fun...making guilds like "Sexy Crew"...and all the others.

TripleE 07-13-2003 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec
I think the extra $5 to have VIP included in my gold subscription was well worth the cool tag and any other feature(s) included. :-D As for you guys who paid $20...E> Sorry, I know...it sucks. Bring back guilds and Bhala's management, and all of Graal is happy. Then people can go back to having all sorts of fun...making guilds like "Sexy Crew"...and all the others.
What ever happened to Bhala. I went on vacation talked to him before I left...I come back and no AiM,no graal,no forums no nothing.

ZanderX 07-13-2003 11:14 AM

People who bought VIP and VIP honestly have no right to complain. Everything about VIP was clearly stated and you are getting what you paid for, and you can't expect it all to happen on the dot and right this minute.

superb 07-13-2003 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX
People who bought VIP and VIP honestly have no right to complain. Everything about VIP was clearly stated and you are getting what you paid for, and you can't expect it all to happen on the dot and right this minute.
Agreed, unless many of the features are not present by the time the membership runs out

ZanderX 07-13-2003 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by superb


Agreed, unless many of the features are not present by the time the membership runs out

Yes, I agree here. Only in this instance would I be inclined to change my statement.

ApeHex 07-13-2003 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX
People who bought VIP and VIP honestly have no right to complain. Everything about VIP was clearly stated and you are getting what you paid for, and you can't expect it all to happen on the dot and right this minute.

i disagree
whenever i buy a tv and take it home i expect it to work perfectly
not only change between 3 channels

protagonist 07-13-2003 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX
People who bought VIP and VIP honestly have no right to complain. Everything about VIP was clearly stated and you are getting what you paid for, and you can't expect it all to happen on the dot and right this minute.

They aren't unreasonable to expect what was promised to them, however.

TripleE 07-13-2003 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist



They aren't unreasonable to expect what was promised to them, however.

Really...unixmad even set dates.

And it isnt stefans fault for the poor quality of 2k1 and classics past its the MANAGEMENT.

superb 07-13-2003 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by ApeHex



i disagree
whenever i buy a tv and take it home i expect it to work perfectly
not only change between 3 channels

but the TV would only get a few channels without you paying for cable or satellite.

DenoriZakarum 07-13-2003 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by superb


but the TV would only get a few channels without you paying for cable or satellite.

ok put it this way, he doesnt expect to get a new sterio and speakers and everything and expect to only get one station

deman1171 07-14-2003 02:27 AM

N/A
 
I JUST upgraded to VIP like five minutes ago...I only did it so i can bug all of you forum olbies ;) And so i can get that cool tag and make everyone think im cool! heehee....One time i got a Demo of Graal3d it was a bunch of colored block and a fat ugly not even that 3d guy jumping up and down on them..like the newbie outfit 3d...i wish i still had it..i got it on some website heehee..Wheres the VIP only forum btw?


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