New Era Management

Tigairius · #1 08-14-2010, 10:30 AM

Due to certain recent events, Kinetaro has replaced Geovanni (Morgrim) as manager on Era.

We sincerely thank Morgrim for his (short but sweet) time, and congratulate Kinetaro on his new position.

Sorry for the confusion to the players, and hopefully we will see many new things come of this situation.

KrimsonSky · #2 08-14-2010, 10:31 AM

Finally.

Sonniku4 · #3 08-14-2010, 10:34 AM

I'mmmmmmmm baaaaaaaaaccccckkkkkkkkkkk.

Demisis_P2P · #4 08-14-2010, 10:44 AM

**** off.

Sonniku4 · #5 08-14-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

**** off.

What do you have against Kinetaro?

Frankie9011 · #6 08-14-2010, 11:13 AM

Woot, I'm prepared for era to be updated with a whole lot of nothing!

Tigairius · #7 08-14-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie9011

Woot, I'm prepared for era to be updated with a whole lot of nothing!

Let's try to be a little more optimistic, shall we? Make light in a dark time.

TheRuckus · #8 08-14-2010, 11:18 AM

Well
era already has 2 new managers in 1 week xD
Well
Goodluck Kinetaro. Hope you will bring it back to life.

KrimsonSky · #9 08-14-2010, 11:26 AM

Kinetaro is actually going to change Era, not mess with it.

Frankie9011 · #10 08-14-2010, 11:44 AM

A message from Geovanni Cassini. (Having issues with logging in the forums)

Fired after less than a day of being Manager, joy.
I was fired because the globals didn't like my staff picks even though I sent TSA my choices before I was even Manager. I could of worked with them on a new staff list, but they fired me instead while I was sleeping.. I honestly feel cheated, but it's fine...I wish Kinetaro the best.

As for my staff picks that people disagree with...

Venom_fish (wil soul) has only a history of having a mouth. He's annoying at best, but he knows gangs like the back of his hand and there is no better choice than Wil Soul.

Cloyd, he makes amazing SFX's and even know I know of his past issues, he wasn't getting the rights to do those things as a SFX anyway, he did the things he did with PR rights which he wouldn't of had. Honestly though I trust Cloyd more than pretty much anyone, he's one of my best friends here since about 8 years, I'd trust him even if he needed those rights, but the fact is he wouldn't have.

Sage, does amazing work but if hired I know he would of had to been kept on a very short leash due to his past spawners.

TheJames, wasn't even on my list to hire. He came to me about hiring, I sent him to Kinetaro to try out and I guess he impressed him enough to be hired. I'm friends with TheJames and know of his past "crimes", but I also know he wanted to join Era's staff since he was 11 years old and I know he wouldn't mess up Era.

Everything could of been avoided if the globals simply sat down and talked about me about all this, but instead they decide to fire me in my sleep in less of a days worth of being Manager. I could of made a change in my management list even though I thought it was approved since I sent it prior to me getting Manager... I feel cheated, but again I wish Kinetaro the best though I don't think you are active or knowledgeable enough to run Era.

Hope Era the best, though I don't feel much will change... hopefully I'll get to stick around on RC at the very least.

Dumdumdidi · #11 08-14-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie9011

A message from Geovanni Cassini. (Having issues with logging in the forums)

Honestly though I trust Cloyd more than pretty much anyone, he's one of my best friends here since about 8 years, I'd trust him even if he needed those rights, but the fact is he wouldn't have.

I'm friends with TheJames and know of his past "crimes", but I also know he wanted to join Era's staff since he was 11 years old and I know he wouldn't mess up Era.

I guess the fact that u hired people on the account that you are lifelong friends with them got you fired.

A manager is supposed to be impartial with his hiring, not hire friends and vouch that they will never screw the server again on the account of knowing them. Just simply knowing them doesn't mean they won't do it again.

(Moreover, i think that having a good friend as the manager of Era would be a perfect buffer for one to do his dirty work.)

If you jeopardize your server in any way just to allow a better environment to play with your friends, then you aren't the right man for the job. I think that was the message the Globals wanted to deliver.

Glock · #12 08-14-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dumdumdidi

I guess the fact that u hired people on the account that you are lifelong friends with them got you fired.

A manager is supposed to be impartial with his hiring, not hire friends and vouch that they will never screw the server again on the account of knowing them. Just simply knowing them doesn't mean they won't do it again.

(Moreover, i think that having a good friend as the manager of Era would be a perfect buffer for one to do his dirty work.)

If you jeopardize your server in any way just to allow a better environment to play with your friends, then you aren't the right man for the job. I think that was the message the Globals wanted to deliver.

I agree with you, Managers shouldn't hire friends. Geo is one of my closest friends on Graal, he trusts me, but that isn't the only reason why he hired me. He knows I'm well-experienced with making sound effects, and that was the sole purpose of me being hired. To make sounds. Not because we're friends, but because he knows I can SFX. I have a few sounds that are currently used on Era that are sounded by me.

Dnegel · #13 08-14-2010, 11:57 AM

Will be interesting too see what Kinetaro can offer Era, I will be waiting for updates.

Gothika · #14 08-14-2010, 12:08 PM

After everyone making claims about how abusive Chris was, Geo goes and hires a bunch of people with a reputation for being abusive.. and to cap that he hires TheJames.

I wish Kinetaro all the best.

Gothika · #15 08-14-2010, 02:15 PM

I don't see a total problem with hiring friends if they are truly talented developers. I am good friends with some developers and I would certainly try draft some in to help me. I think it is very import to be comfortable with the team you work with and in it is important to know they've got your back and to know they trust you and vice-versa. That being said I'd never hire anyone purely because of their relationship with me, it would be still be on merit of their skills as a developer.

The main problem here was the questionable history of the people hired.

Glock · #16 08-14-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gothika

I don't think the main problem was the hiring of friend, I believe the major concern was the questionable history of the people hired.

Correct.

Dumdumdidi · #17 08-14-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gothika

The main problem here was the questionable history of the people hired.

I think the problem is the fact that he believes that they wont abuse again just because they are friends. Knowing of their history, he should have known better not to hire them.

Glock · #18 08-14-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dumdumdidi

I think the problem is the fact that he believes that they wont abuse again just because they are friends. Knowing of their history, he should have known better not to hire them.

What's wrong with trusting someone? It's not a guarantee that they won't do something again, but it doesn't hurt to have a little trust in that person if he/she is getting the development work done. People shouldn't be so caught up in the past that they forget to move with the future.

xXziroXx · #19 08-14-2010, 03:08 PM

I'm gonna pretend I haven't posted this previously because it'll fit so much better in this thread.

And wow, Graal seems to be nothing but a ****ty soap opera lately.

TSAdmin · #20 08-14-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

And wow, Graal seems to be nothing but a ****ty soap opera lately.

Someone always dies to end the season.

Rave_J · #21 08-14-2010, 03:17 PM

lol watch now you guys have to put up with gaberil i can see him being admin cuz them two are butt buddys. besides kin havent really play in forever. but i doubt he will do that much. prob part of why he got the job over frankie cuz hes a good gfx and scripter. but era dev will start over again.

ArushenP2P · #22 08-14-2010, 03:28 PM

Is Era Dev even up?

Supaman771 · #23 08-14-2010, 04:25 PM

Bye GC, it was fun (lol?).

Grats Kine, lets see if you can beat the previous record.

Nataxo · #24 08-14-2010, 04:57 PM

Deas_Voice · #25 08-14-2010, 05:16 PM

FrozenLies0 · #26 08-14-2010, 05:28 PM

Woooow, I have a lot to say to this BS, but I won't.
As ****ty as this turned out to be, I guess I have to be "OPTIMISTIC" and pray to Lord Jesus Era doesn't fall flat on it's face.

KrimsonSky · #27 08-14-2010, 05:28 PM

Wait, why would Morgrim "stick around on RC" ...

FrozenLies0 · #28 08-14-2010, 05:31 PM

Also, most of you guys are so concerned about the "past" yet I see more of the "past" staff with their "past" problems hired in replacement of GC's choices.
Hm..makes sense.
No, not really ?

hunterhunk · #29 08-14-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Due to certain recent events, Kinetaro has replaced Geovanni (Morgrim) as manager on Era.

We sincerely thank Morgrim for his (short but sweet) time, and congratulate Kinetaro on his new position.

Sorry for the confusion to the players, and hopefully we will see many new things come of this situation.

Yeah keeping a promise to keep the best person for the job of Gang and Business Admin is a really nice move. Why don't you tell everyone why you fired GC?

You don't even give someone a chance because OMG WIL SOUL was hired. Really? Are we going to keep someone from being staff because he has a big ego?

Also, you couldn't even talk to Geo? You just took action without even talking to him? This is ****ing ridiculous.

Edit: I'm not a PWA or anything, but I am pretty sure it's your job to asses the situation at hand and talk to the Manager personally before you take action. Also, personal promises shouldn't be the main reason you remove someone from management. It just you can have your own best interest as a global instead of a server's progression.

FrozenLies0 · #30 08-14-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

Also, you couldn't even talk to Geo? You just took action without even talking to him? This is ****ing ridiculous.

Uh oh! Looks like to me Chris Vimes wanted Geo to have a taste of getting knocked off the big time like he did when he was gone. You sly devil you.

Seeya · #31 08-14-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

Also, you couldn't even talk to Geo? You just took action without even talking to him? This is ****ing ridiculous..

Sounds familiar.

And good luck Kinetaro, we've had some history but you're much better of a Manager than Geo.

hunterhunk · #32 08-14-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya

Sounds familiar.

And good luck Kinetaro, we've had some history but you're much better of a Manager than Geo.

Not exactly, Chris knew it was coming. Chris also did a lot of abusive crap to players he didnt like, and had many chances to fix his ways.

Geo had no chance to fix anything, so it's definitely different.

Seeya · #33 08-14-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

Not exactly, Chris knew it was coming. Chris also did a lot of abusive crap to players he didnt like, and had many chances to fix his ways.

Geo had no chance to fix anything, so it's definitely different.

Chris, works all day on Era, he even paid for developers (crow) to work on the German/dutch translations. Out of his own pocket. Any time something was brought up, he'd develop it if it was reasonable. (Gun racks, Hotkeys)

If he spawned some sewer elixirs to pk more fluently, or he dragged you around the gmap for three seconds, does that make him a bad Manager? He can't enjoy what he's worked to build?

It's not that he wanted to keep his job forever, he just wanted a peaceful exit. It's sad i had to write all this after it's been said so many times, and you still don't get it.

papajchris · #34 08-14-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya

If he spawned some sewer elixirs to pk more fluently, or he dragged you around the gmap for three seconds, does that make him a bad Manager?

No. But if he spawns money and items and ruins the economy, yes

Crow · #35 08-14-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya

Chris, works all day on Era, he even paid for developers (crow) to work on the German translations.

That was his decision, by the way. I'd have done it for free, but he gave me a little something for translating all that stuff.

hunterhunk · #36 08-14-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya

Chris, works all day on Era, he even paid for developers (crow) to work on the German/dutch translations. Out of his own pocket. Any time something was brought up, he'd develop it if it was reasonable. (Gun racks, Hotkeys)

If he spawned some sewer elixirs to pk more fluently, or he dragged you around the gmap for three seconds, does that make him a bad Manager? He can't enjoy what he's worked to build?

It's not that he wanted to keep his job forever, he just wanted a peaceful exit. It's sad i had to write all this after it's been said so many times, and you still don't get it.

Hotkeys were already created before this, gun racks, yeah he did a good job... Still, it wasn't just adding sewer elixirs to himself, he gave out spawned nukes, supers, sewers, etc to other members of his gang. He gave an advantage to one group of players, and made sure his gang's gun was better than other gangs.

You are a close friend of his, it's obvious your opinion of his management is going to be great. I am going to disagree with you, I thought quite the opposite.

Chris is a great scripter, and a hard worker, but that's all the credit I can give him.

Supaman771 · #37 08-14-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Due to certain recent events

So you fired a manager, and blacklisted an entire qualified staff roster because you couldn't allow Wil to be staff (Won't go into detail as to why).

Lol @ Anti-Graal reasons. Covering up by claiming staff with absolutely no rights were abusive. And pulling the favoritism card at GC when he didn't even hire half the people.

This is by far, the lulziest series of events to date.

GG Tig, you win.

Edit: Gtfo Slash, I wanted to tell everyone.

kia345 · #38 08-14-2010, 05:42 PM

Nothing wrong with hiring friends if they can do the job. If you "can't trust your friends to not screw up", then you have the wrong friends and were probably the wrong choice for manager anyway.

Also, I'm sure this'll come back to "****, we should've kept Chris"

FrozenLies0 · #39 08-14-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

Also, I'm sure this'll come back to "****, we should've kept Chris"

Even if they did keep Chris, he said he was resigning the same day anyways.

jkldogg · #40 08-14-2010, 06:28 PM

kinetaro always seems to be away alot, but gl to him with manager.

also, i think GC's staff team was pretty decent...