Two New Businesses

[iPaul]

There should be Two new Businesses such as

The Potluck Pig
It should be player Owned and have stockers to stock 4 Diffrent kind of Beer or Drinks

and

GreenRoads Cafe
Should be player Owned and have stockers instead of Player stocking on the Side of it :P
I Think that Would be nice
New Businesses=More Jobs

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by iPaul

GreenRoads Cafe
Should be player Owned and have stockers instead of Player stocking on the Side of it :P

It used to be, but Sarah (the old owner) gave it up and Maverick made it NPC-ran. I'm not sure there was any other reason than his view being that everything should be NPC-ran due to so much trouble with business owners.

Personally, I'd be in the same boat as Maverick. I don't think players should own any businesses.

[Tricxta]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

It used to be, but Sarah (the old owner) gave it up and Maverick made it NPC-ran....Personally, I'd be in the same boat as Maverick. I don't think players should own any businesses.

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I beleive this is the best way to have businesses kept. Too many issues arise from players owning businesses so i'm with TSAdmin on this

[cbk1994]

I disagree, owning businesses used to be a lot of fun.

[LordSquirt]

Owning something like the Cafe though is unfair since it basically is a monopoly since you can't buy caps/revs anywhere else.

at least that was how it was before

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I disagree, owning businesses used to be a lot of fun.

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

monopoly

Well, to clarify my standpoint on the topic, it is indeed a lot of fun. But the problem is monopolising with businesses like GreenRoads Cafe. The only way I'd support player-run businesses is if there were a large number of them and they were spread equally (multiple food, multiple weapon, multiple ammo, multiple cafe, etc) and the only thing to worry about is location, like how the old older "Player Bizes" worked (Hachi's flawed, but sound in idea, system), but less ammo/weapon specific. As Squirt said, the Cafe being the only one of it's kind, there's no competition for a business that heaps of people use. They're the only ones getting the money for that revenue source.

The problem is, no staff team has been determined enough (or are made up of opposing ideals on the topic) to make something big with business direction happen. So, while it stands how it is, I would never give my support for player-ran businesses.

[Emera]

I always thought that the pub on Era iPhone was called "polluck pig" lol. We used to have rodeo parties there.

[jkldogg]

Not many people buy from the cafe anymore, since Light weight potions exist. I like player-ran businesses, as long as they're handled correctly.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

Well, to clarify my standpoint on the topic, it is indeed a lot of fun. But the problem is monopolising with businesses like GreenRoads Cafe. The only way I'd support player-run businesses is if there were a large number of them and they were spread equally (multiple food, multiple weapon, multiple ammo, multiple cafe, etc) and the only thing to worry about is location, like how the old older "Player Bizes" worked (Hachi's flawed, but sound in idea, system), but less ammo/weapon specific. As Squirt said, the Cafe being the only one of it's kind, there's no competition for a business that heaps of people use. They're the only ones getting the money for that revenue source.

The problem is, no staff team has been determined enough (or are made up of opposing ideals on the topic) to make something big with business direction happen. So, while it stands how it is, I would never give my support for player-ran businesses.

yes but no1 would use grc or the potluck pig as much as ammo mart or gun point...they sell neiche items which most players choose to not spend money on

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

yes but no1 would use grc or the potluck pig as much as ammo mart or gun point...they sell neiche items which most players choose to not spend money on

If you put someone in charge of running either of those, the minute they start advertising themselves, more people will use them. Always been the way with everything that's opened up and had a player put in charge of it. If not for the fact that they're drawn into it and what it sells, then the pure fact that it's no longer NPC-run. In turn, more money for them, and of course without competition that's actually "more money for ONLY them in that source".

[bloodykiller]

well assuming this person payed hundreds of thousands to obtain the biz in an auction, this only seems fair

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

well assuming this person payed hundreds of thousands to obtain the biz in an auction, this only seems fair

Not if they keep it for 2 years straight and earn 2 mil off of it, or more, based on overpricing.


@TSA my question is, all businesses (I believe? I only know GP AM and PT) are taxed, and do not earn 100% of the money that an item they sell costs (ammo aside), meaning that currently businesses serve to relocate money to the owners and workers, yes, but also to directly take money out of the economy. So many staff/players seem concerned about controlling the increase of money in the economy, wouldn't having more businesses( and thusly more money taken out) help?

just curious. I agree with the view that having players run a business is more problematic

[RogueShatterblade]

I honestly think player-owned-and-operated businesses are one of Era's big selling points.

It gives younger kids the idea of what having a job is like (megalolz), and it's just one of the features that distinguish us from some other servers.

But it's the GBA's job to govern them - the livelihood of businesses, and in my opinion, the economy, falls on him.

[bloodykiller]

scoper has a weird concept of fun, to him it's mining, so understandably he prefers the borring way to manage bizzes

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by RogueShatterblade

I honestly think player-owned-and-operated businesses are one of Era's big selling points.

It gives younger kids the idea of what having a job is like (megalolz), and it's just one of the features that distinguish us from some other servers.

But it's the GBA's job to govern them - the livelihood of businesses, and in my opinion, the economy, falls on him.

I guess that does make Era pretty unique, yeah. But we're also the only server that could really support one.

Zod has every single item they have available(i believe?) be droppable from one of the monsters
UN? Yeah they have nothing close to the ability to have businesses, unless they made hat machines

and..with so many other things effecting the economy, it's not fair to drop the whole of economic responsibility on the GBA

Also..they should just be business admins now. I don't think they do anything gang related anymore, because of the new system being all automated