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Old 08-01-2014, 12:17 AM
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Real Talk; Servers down.

Take it offline, as soon as possible. This kind of lag is perfect for duping.
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:18 AM
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:51 AM
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:54 AM
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I've already had to give 3 people tips as to how without flagging RC plz stop them before everyone is as rich as me
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:58 AM
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Disable the ATMs, disable buying items from stores, disable item lending... Theres a ton of ways, it's ridiculous
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:58 AM
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Dropping has been disabled. We should be safe.
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Buying and ATMs shouldn't dupe. Does lending not go with dropping?
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:03 AM
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I've reset countless players for duping through buying items (from stores), item lending (with friends) and ATMs. I suggest blocking the casino off as well.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:08 AM
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I've already brought 75m into the economy over the past 48 hours ggwp
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:23 AM
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Down to the real talk; Let's think realistically here... If they don't finally decide to scrap PC Graal (Which who knows, this might happen) I think Era needs to make some REALLY BIG changes to put themselves ahead of the other servers.

Right now the viable option for new players to get anywhere on PC Graal is Zodiac. You're able to level your character, get money and items through leveling and buy gear for your player through those items and gold you got leveling.

Era PC is just so far behind with noob-friendliness.

Era's economy has been in the **** for years, we should make guns worth 65-70% what they are today.

No gun should be $900,000. That's ridiculous and unrealistic for new players who log on to achieve.

It doesn't matter if everyone ends up getting an Mp5 Navy or whatever else you have. If you introduce exclusive items through the EC shop, auctions and the other 100 ways like you're some-what doing, they will replace the tier of $900,000 guns which should only really be $500,000 or so.

Making the Era dollar more valuable is an option we really need to consider.

Era's Staff Team; This game is about progression and paving way for a new generation, it has been for a long time. Yet we have been stuck in this rut of cycling in the same Staff to take on positions and watching them fail over and over or hoarding a position and doing absolutely nothing with it. It's time to really crack down on the team and make sure they are doing what is best for the server, meeting the demands of players and trying to actually achieve a goal of everyone being happy.

I could go on and on but honestly wtf is the point? Most of the people who browse the forums will disregard anything just like they do to Koho's posts. We need more passionate players to take on the positions that the lazy, useless and no-good staff are hoarding.

Release the new GMAP as soon as possible, let that be the starting route of; "Plan A-msel" and let's finally see some passionate staff to match the passionate community.

You're not going to teach an old dog new tricks, especially if that dog has been given an easy ride for years and thinks he is untouchable. Don't be fooled. You can replace EVERY single one of the non-development Staff you have with someone who will do a HECK of a lot better. You need to enforce that with them so that they pick up their game or show them that it is true by making an example.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:39 AM
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The new gmap was obviously built to go with the draft, but even so i don't think it's a good approach. why make everyone have to re learn the map? there could have been slight adjustments rather than just throwing things everywhere all willy nilly. I agree with the hospital being at osl, that has been a change that should have been made 10 years ago. Other than that though, alot of things that were easily accessed are scattered and alot of things that were a great distance are really close. If we are to truly update the gmap, things should stay in the same general areas aside from ammo shops and food shops which should all be lumped within an equal distance to stay competitive.
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Also what this server needs to be accessible to the newer/ iera crowd is microtransactions. Argue all you want against it but it is the only way. The gelat shop that was teased as an april fools joke was honestly a good idea. You just make it fair by making weapons purchased with real money untradeable. I really don't see the issue with it. With this maybe stefan will actually buy us a server that isn't in the basement of a meth lab.
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Old 08-01-2014, 02:02 AM
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If they do that they might as well make USDing legal. I'd hate for players to beable to pay to win with millions more than me. I would rather let them have my millions for the hundreds they would pay in the gelat shop.
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Yeah but the thing here is that they wouldnt get free money out of it, they would get balanced weapons that would be equal to the current weapons and untradeable.
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Old 08-01-2014, 02:43 AM
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Seems like other servers are some-what stable, could bring Era back online.
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Old 08-01-2014, 03:50 AM
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Editting the Gelat shop isn't really a option for us from a Staff view. I've asked all the PWA and even they can't touch it. Only Stefan can, and we don't even know if hes with Graal anymore.

Some players (showstopper) already use Gelats to make millions. The guy has spent tens of thousands of Gelats to spawn potions and sell them in the mall for months. And I've seen another half dozen less recent people doing the same thing.
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The new map is keeping most things in a general/respective spot to where it is on the current map (Things above OSL are going in the Northern District, etc.) The main goal was to set the businesses to equal spots, and set up new Bases to interact with the new gang system and the Districts themselves. Another goal was to try and get rid of most of the on-map parking of cars... since they keep being deleted (and also finishing the new car system).

There's other things going on too, but those are the main ones you've been able to see when Tim hosted his previews.

In regards to everything else, I am available on Skype quite literally 24/7 (My computer is always on and I have it on mobile). The little icon under my name doesn't properly display, but that's my contact so... if any staff or player needs anything (business admin development ****, gun skins added, literally anything Era), just leave me a message. I don't want no excuses round here; I tell those guys that on RC daily.

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Well whoever is operating this now, even if it's just unixmad (though i doubt with the success of the I servers Stefan isn't still a part of it) I don't think it is a shallow approach at this point. In order to evolve we need to draw in the players from the other incarnations with our better controls and sytems. But also in order to do that we need a better server, if we actually start producing money i don't see that being a problem.
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Old 08-01-2014, 04:05 AM
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What even is your position on the team? This is what I'm trying to get at... When Amsel took over there was no one in any positions, he took a bunch of the PRs at the time and gave them all random positions, now it's come back in Era's face, no one is doing anything and no one knows how to do their job. We still have useless Ex-Managers who don't do anything but log on RC for a few hours and maybe player twice a week.

What is actually happening on the team? I'm usually very in the loop with development, projects and just generally what is happening and from my sources I'm being told nothing... literally nothing is happening.

Maintaining Era as it is won't get us very far, we need to start taking action and making decisions to put us ahead and a viable option for players to switch from iOS to PC.

I'm against the whole "change the getlat shop" but that doesn't mean there isn't other solutions. I hate bringing this up but when I was on the team, we had Rogue, BlueMelon, MD, Fidel, myself, Nas, almost every high Admin in a skype call every single day for hours figuring out what our next step was, what we would release, what we would do for holidays (Christmas, Easter, Halloween, etc) I don't see any kind of commitment or attempts from the current team to become something like that.

Now don't get me wrong, this isn't Amsels fault at all, nor am I bashing on his management. I'm just thinking right now; You as a team have absolutely no direction of where you want to go. Almost no one other than the devs are doing their jobs correctly and we're spiraling out of control losing players interest in Era in the process.

It's time to find more passionate Staff, Staff of the future, a new generation. Half the team is Ex-Managers who have played for years, they're all getting into their 20s and are all getting a social life, that isn't the viable option for Era's Staff Team.

4 Top Tier PKers have quit because of this, when are you going to learn?

This message isn't directed at anyone in particular but most of the team as a whole. You know if you're reading this and it's about you, as for those who read this and know it's not about them. We need people who care about the game and want to see it up and running for another 10 years to be working on the team, we don't want people who once had that passion, once had that strive and have died out to not giving a single **** about it. Out with the old, in the with new.

It's time for a change, I'm not talking a change in management or a change in development but a real ****ing change for Era as a whole. This new gmap is the perfect start, get that out, get the ball rolling and crack down on these useless kids that do absolutely nothing but sit on RC trolling each other.

If I have one piece of criticism to Amsel it's this; Don't get played like every other manager. Don't let these useless kids sit on the team, sit on RC, hoarding these positions promising to deliver something when all they ever do is cycle in old material, cycle in old ideas and don't care about the community or the liveliness of the server. You need to give the people who otherwise wouldn't get the opportunity a chance to see who really loves this server. I'm talking the kids who get banned for stupid **** and instead of waiting out their ban time they ban evade, they continue to play through all of the ridiculous **** they are given, they play for years on end giving feedback and other words of advice, these are the kids you want because they are the ones who care.

There are countless names I could spit out for countless positions that would do a HECK of a lot better than the current people in those positions.

I could care less what players or even the Staff Team think about me. I'm one of the many in the community of players who care and the more you let us down and the more you over look us and the more you continue to promise and not deliver, the more a part of us gives up.

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Old 08-01-2014, 10:18 AM
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What even is your position on the team? This is what I'm trying to get at... When Amsel took over there was no one in any positions, he took a bunch of the PRs at the time and gave them all random positions, now it's come back in Era's face, no one is doing anything and no one knows how to do their job. We still have useless Ex-Managers who don't do anything but log on RC for a few hours and maybe player twice a week.

What is actually happening on the team? I'm usually very in the loop with development, projects and just generally what is happening and from my sources I'm being told nothing... literally nothing is happening.

Maintaining Era as it is won't get us very far, we need to start taking action and making decisions to put us ahead and a viable option for players to switch from iOS to PC.

I'm against the whole "change the getlat shop" but that doesn't mean there isn't other solutions. I hate bringing this up but when I was on the team, we had Rogue, BlueMelon, MD, Fidel, myself, Nas, almost every high Admin in a skype call every single day for hours figuring out what our next step was, what we would release, what we would do for holidays (Christmas, Easter, Halloween, etc) I don't see any kind of commitment or attempts from the current team to become something like that.

Now don't get me wrong, this isn't Amsels fault at all, nor am I bashing on his management. I'm just thinking right now; You as a team have absolutely no direction of where you want to go. Almost no one other than the devs are doing their jobs correctly and we're spiraling out of control losing players interest in Era in the process.

It's time to find more passionate Staff, Staff of the future, a new generation. Half the team is Ex-Managers who have played for years, they're all getting into their 20s and are all getting a social life, that isn't the viable option for Era's Staff Team.

4 Top Tier PKers have quit because of this, when are you going to learn?

This message isn't directed at anyone in particular but most of the team as a whole. You know if you're reading this and it's about you, as for those who read this and know it's not about them. We need people who care about the game and want to see it up and running for another 10 years to be working on the team, we don't want people who once had that passion, once had that strive and have died out to not giving a single **** about it. Out with the old, in the with new.

It's time for a change, I'm not talking a change in management or a change in development but a real ****ing change for Era as a whole. This new gmap is the perfect start, get that out, get the ball rolling and crack down on these useless kids that do absolutely nothing but sit on RC trolling each other.

If I have one piece of criticism to Amsel it's this; Don't get played like every other manager. Don't let these useless kids sit on the team, sit on RC, hoarding these positions promising to deliver something when all they ever do is cycle in old material, cycle in old ideas and don't care about the community or the liveliness of the server. You need to give the people who otherwise wouldn't get the opportunity a chance to see who really loves this server. I'm talking the kids who get banned for stupid **** and instead of waiting out their ban time they ban evade, they continue to play through all of the ridiculous **** they are given, they play for years on end giving feedback and other words of advice, these are the kids you want because they are the ones who care.

There are countless names I could spit out for countless positions that would do a HECK of a lot better than the current people in those positions.

I could care less what players or even the Staff Team think about me. I'm one of the many in the community of players who care and the more you let us down and the more you over look us and the more you continue to promise and not deliver, the more a part of us gives up.
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But really though I've pleaded for change for years, I've even offered up content myself just to make this game have an influx of new material. But here is where the issue stands for era; nobody wants to help. Right now, 90% of the none-developer staff team is just occupying their job till a better one comes around. They all have the same goal(s) in mind, so they will just keep being mediocre till they're fired. I personally think that PR's should be the only staff who lack developer experience, and they should be trying to pick up a couple of dev skills so that they can move up and help the server in the one way that we can actually see the progress. I'd go into depth on how this could all change to make the staff team very nice and successful, but I'm currently taking one of my 'breaks' from graal and am only on the forums because I've got a few minutes to kill and want to see how the game is progressing.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:27 AM
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but I'm currently taking one of my 'breaks' from graal and am only on the forums because I've got a few minutes to kill and want to see how the game is progressing.
progressing? What progression... If you've quit too than that's another I can add to the list. It's just ridiculous and in all honesty a waste of time even posting on the forums... I'm basically just done myself, all hope is lost.
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Amsel isn't an idiot, he can take care of his own development team.

In regard to rogue, who gives a single goddamn what his official title name is. He does work, his job can me qtpie admin for all I care.

Unless staff are openly doing something wrong, kinda feel like it's none of our damn business how useful they are. We aren't the ones running the team, we play the game. Not every staff has to be on every second of every day -- they're allowed to have a social life and still function as staff members. Heaven forbid

Also if there are more 'passionate, caring' players, they should probably get on the forums and expend some basic effort to agree with you. Would make the soapbox a bit less soapboxy

Also sweet lord aids is still a thing on RC why you people why will you perpetuate such ****ery
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Amsel isn't an idiot, he can take care of his own development team.

In regard to rogue, who gives a single goddamn what his official title name is. He does work, his job can me qtpie admin for all I care.

Unless staff are openly doing something wrong, kinda feel like it's none of our damn business how useful they are. We aren't the ones running the team, we play the game. Not every staff has to be on every second of every day -- they're allowed to have a social life and still function as staff members. Heaven forbid

Also if there are more 'passionate, caring' players, they should probably get on the forums and expend some basic effort to agree with you. Would make the soapbox a bit less soapboxy
Let's be realistic here, did you even bother to read my post or did you just wrongfully skim through and miss interpret the whole thing? Your response makes no sense nor does it correlate with anything I posted.

Why should they come on to get a handful of the useless pricks who have their butt buddies running the show to just come on and give them a dose of know it all mentality and close-mindedness?

This is exactly why we have 3 of the 5 top tier PKers who refuse to PK or do anything other than idle, whilst others don't even log on. It's the who cares attitude that comes from the Staff and their bud's. How many more people do we need to lose before you and your staff bud's finally get it threw your head that your mentality is wrong?

I'm done posting in the thread, I guess no one really gives a **** about this game anymore.
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Old 08-01-2014, 04:44 AM
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It's close minded players like this that leave my mouth dropped. If you even read my post you would see that I could care less if I was a staff member or not. I just don't think we have the right people in the current positions. I already know that I would be a great staff member just like I was when I was but that's old news now. Let's just continue to watch these useless staff members do nothing.
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Also just to further make you look ridiculous;

1)I stated that the only success I see in the current team is the development side.

2)Rogue has been posting on the forums for weeks about how he does nothing and no one asks him to do anything.

3)Staff not doing anything is doing wrong. Just because you get given everything to you on a silver platter doesn't mean everyone else does. The server isn't noob-friendly at all, all the systems are out-dated and are all in-favor to old players rather than everyone as a whole having equal opportunity and or chance.

4)Yeah, Let's get a bunch of players to come on here to have their words spun around like you have done for the last how many months every time someone who is like that posts? (Every single one of Kohos threads you've decided to be a little prick on.)
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:36 PM
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It's kind of hard to be motivated to do anything, even prior to the server going down. There's constantly disconnections, which aren't only frustrating, but physically painful when you see something you were working on or doing lost cause of some random disconnect. And that's on top of what I have to deal with on a daily basis outside of having a full time job. I think you're just asking for a lot in my opinion. We're doing the best with what we have, and we have made a lot of progression towards a better future. There's a lot more work to be done though and it's not going to happen overnight.
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I don't have time to read the entity of this thread right now, but I'll bring up the point of lazy/inactive/un-motivated staff.
This is Graal. At it's current state, nothing is really motivating players to step up to the plate and want to join the staff team.
If there are any passionate, skilled players/devs that want to give a shot at dev'ing on Era, contact me. It is true, the current generation of devs is getting older and needs new, young shots to take over (at some point).

Although, I do believe the current dev staff team is capable of completing projects and satisfies the development needs of Era at this time.
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I agree with Godzilla...it's the "I don't care attitude" and "it's not my problem talk to this guy" attitude that is screwing the game up. I've noticed that many times when there has been a problem or I have looked to help progress something along I have been pawned off to someone else... As far as getting new people into staff is kinda hard when current staff doesn't want to give new guys a chance if they don't know you. I knw people including myself that have tried to get on staff however have been denied due to our hours played...however our hour log is deceiving cuz they are newer accounts from when we played like 5 years ago... Personally I can't see era expanding in players because gang leaders are shitty, business owners have gotten better with helping people get jobs, but the gangs still oppress the newer community. It used to be ALOT worse. But I think the community itself needs to be less shitty to each other for ppl to stay and for new people to join. I don't think it's solely on the staff.
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Well, I can tell you guys right now that the draft system won't happen this weekend if this lag persists.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:16 PM
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there really arent many skilled players on era that can dev and all that, so it will be hard to replace the current good ones. and some of the ones that are actually good dont want to because #1 you dont get paid #2 it is too much hassle/work and you dont get paid #3 you dont get paid and #4 graal is laggy as hell and it has been dying a slow death. i don't think the main problem is era staff. the main problem is graal in general. the servers suck. the owner is MIA. there is really no leadership. you cant even change your email address on the graal online website. the feature has been unavailable for like 2 years now. they cant even fix the site let alone graal in general.

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Old 08-01-2014, 10:33 PM
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Okay, I believe the draft system is ready for this weekend. I'm going to continue w/ the testing to make sure there aren't any bugs.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:46 PM
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Why does everyone keep bringing up the dev team, like it's obvious we need a new generation of devs so this one can move on but that's not the problem at all.

It's the useless non dev's who are sitting in positions doing nothing.
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:37 PM
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Why does everyone keep bringing up the dev team, like it's obvious we need a new generation of devs so this one can move on but that's not the problem at all.

It's the useless non dev's who are sitting in positions doing nothing.
Make suggestions of the changes you would make rather than complaining so much then. Just saying you dislike the current staff doesn't help a lot.
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