bye post, etc.

[Andy0687]

Well,

I decided its time for me to leave.

I dont have much of a reason that everyone dosent get to see every day that I can say directly, because I am afraid my thread will get deleted and I will lose my 8 hours post AGAIN.

Besides the game completely becoming boring in every aspect (Even Development, what is there to go for?). I learned a few things in my time here. Some helpful advice maybe?

It appears that since Nemesis went off, the best way to make nice with a powerful position is to be as horrible to the graalonline paying customers as possible. Hold nothing back, its great buisness apparently. Refrain from doing something that helps anyone, ever. That or just make friends with them.

It wont work unless someone very high notices first, once that happens, no one else cares.

My best time on graal was when I was Managing babylon, and then Malinko managed to finally get his hands on it and ruin it. As if it wasnt ruined to begin with. Guess he pushed his stuff to the right people long enough.

I can thank graal for helping get me into scripting though, it was always real fun, but is more of a pain then anything these days, expecially when, unless you are working for UN or Era, most of the stuff you do will probably go un-noticed. Expecially if you buy a development server, painful.

I dont think I even really need to mention why the forums arent enjoyable to be around anymore, VT is doing a great job in the thread of saying it already, and Malinko is doing a great job of proving my earlier points.

Thanks to everyone in the scripting forum (namely Ziro, and Okiesmokie) when I came back gs2 was what we should be learning, and from watching you guys make posts and npcs, I was able to learn/correct some things I was doing wrong, and learn a few neat new tricks.

This post has been all over the place I guess, and I only have one more thing to say, I will be back when Dark Rival is finished, because I want to be the first in line to laugh in everyones face who keeps giving Excaliber grief (as opposed to actually helping him, which might save some time). In the unlikely event that it is never finished, at least he gave it a better try then most of the trolls.

I would wish Graal luck but I think it needs a little more then that, and I dont know that administration believes in miracles.

Cya.

[Lyndzey]

Originally Posted by Andy0687

It appears that since Nemesis went off, the best way to make nice with a powerful position is to be as horrible to the graalonline paying customers as possible. Hold nothing back, its great buisness apparently. Refrain from doing something that helps anyone, ever. That or just make friends with them.

...

Originally Posted by Andy0687

My best time on graal was when I was Managing babylon, and then Malinko managed to finally get his hands on it and ruin it. As if it wasnt ruined to begin with. Guess he pushed his stuff to the right people long enough.

Well, he put himself in charge. Since he was PWA at the time, there wasn't anything the Accounts Admin could do. The Accounts Admin does not spend her life sucking up, so it is difficult for her to do anything nowadays.

Originally Posted by Andy0687

This post has been all over the place I guess, and I only have one more thing to say, I will be back when Dark Rival is finished, because I want to be the first in line to laugh in everyones face who keeps giving Excaliber grief (as opposed to actually helping him, which might save some time). In the unlikely event that it is never finished, at least he gave it a better try then most of the trolls.

I agree with you here. I have never seen someone as passionate about a server as Excalibur. He has made significant improvement since he started, and he will only continue to get better.

Bye.

[Andy0687]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

...

Well, he put himself in charge. Since he was PWA at the time, there wasn't anything the Accounts Admin could do. The Accounts Admin does not spend her life sucking up, so it is difficult for her to do anything nowadays.

I was happy to see you post but I wanted to make sure everything was clear.

I dont know much about the but I do know that after Nemesis left, things became entirely too different.

I dont blame you at all for the babylon thing, I blame Stefan, and I also blame everyone who follows poor server Managers around like Sheep. If it were not for Stefan and Nemesis in the first place, my best guess is that babylon would be number 1, there is no reason it would not have been at our rate back then.

Anyways you are an amazing global staff member, and one of the very few people in that position i have full respect for. Thanks for helping me out all those times.

Anyway, good luck in the future, maybe one day Graal will be nice enough for you to return

I do not think with the current way graal is, it will will ever be 'nice' enough for me to come back. Its almost mind-boggling to see what goes on. With a community that could have been so great. Much like some vengeful child with their toys, theyve attempted to dismantle it in too many ways.

However I have stated my one return clause, and I wish you the best of luck on your server, it really does look good.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Andy0687

Well,

I decided its time for me to leave.

I dont have much of a reason that everyone dosent get to see every day that I can say directly, because I am afraid my thread will get deleted and I will lose my 8 hours post AGAIN.

Besides the game completely becoming boring in every aspect (Even Development, what is there to go for?). I learned a few things in my time here. Some helpful advice maybe?

It appears that since Nemesis went off, the best way to make nice with a powerful position is to be as horrible to the graalonline paying customers as possible. Hold nothing back, its great buisness apparently. Refrain from doing something that helps anyone, ever. That or just make friends with them.

It wont work unless someone very high notices first, once that happens, no one else cares.

My best time on graal was when I was Managing babylon, and then Malinko managed to finally get his hands on it and ruin it. As if it wasnt ruined to begin with. Guess he pushed his stuff to the right people long enough.

I can thank graal for helping get me into scripting though, it was always real fun, but is more of a pain then anything these days, expecially when, unless you are working for UN or Era, most of the stuff you do will probably go un-noticed. Expecially if you buy a development server, painful.

I dont think I even really need to mention why the forums arent enjoyable to be around anymore, VT is doing a great job in the thread of saying it already, and Malinko is doing a great job of proving my earlier points.

Thanks to everyone in the scripting forum (namely Ziro, and Okiesmokie) when I came back gs2 was what we should be learning, and from watching you guys make posts and npcs, I was able to learn/correct some things I was doing wrong, and learn a few neat new tricks.

This post has been all over the place I guess, and I only have one more thing to say, I will be back when Dark Rival is finished, because I want to be the first in line to laugh in everyones face who keeps giving Excaliber grief (as opposed to actually helping him, which might save some time). In the unlikely event that it is never finished, at least he gave it a better try then most of the trolls.

I would wish Graal luck but I think it needs a little more then that, and I dont know that administration believes in miracles.

Cya.

I quoted your entire post. If yours goes down, mine does too
Anyway, good luck in the future, maybe one day Graal will be nice enough for you to return

[Crono]

Bye

I predict DR will suck. Everyone has an opinion, right?

[maximus_asinus]

Damn it, you never told me who you really were back awhile ago when we were talking about Graal2000!

[Lord Sephiroth]

I am angry because you did not thank Graal for bringing us together.
Also my name was not mentioned.

YOU ANGER ME.

[Malinko]

Correct!

Silent quit Manager when I was a member of the Playerworld Administration and gave it to me, telling me, "Here, do what you want to it." So I gave it Janus and told me if he isn't active within a month, then I would take it back! AND GUESS WHAT?! He wasn't active within a month.

You're just jealous. You were on Babylon earlier when there was 120 players online. Stop being such a kid and stop whining.

And one more thing, you think I sucked up to be on the PWA and what not? Hah, Stefan asked me to be apart of the PWA for whatever reason. If I did suck up to him to get the job, then I can say this to you. HAHAHA! I win, you lose. Get a life and stop being so jealous. You are one of the people I hate, spreading false rumours just because you're jealous and didn't get where you wanted to, just like half the people on this game. You all laughed until I got into the position. So whine and see you in hell, kid, because I got there, you didn't.

Oh, and one last thing. Get off my lawn.

Bye!

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Malinko

Correct!

Silent quit Manager when I was a member of the Playerworld Administration and gave it to me, telling me, "Here, do what you want to it." So I gave it Janus and told me if he isn't active within a month, then I would take it back! AND GUESS WHAT?! He wasn't active within a month.

You're just jealous. You were on Babylon earlier when there was 120 players online. Stop being such a kid and stop whining.

And one more thing, you think I sucked up to be on the PWA and what not? Hah, Stefan asked me to be apart of the PWA for whatever reason. If I did suck up to him to get the job, then I can say this to you. HAHAHA! I win, you lose. Get a life and stop being so jealous. You are one of the people I hate, spreading false rumours just because you're jealous and didn't get where you wanted to, just like half the people on this game. You all laughed until I got into the position. So whine and see you in hell, kid, because I got there, you didn't.

Oh, and one last thing. Get off my lawn.

Bye!

Rather childish post posted by a demented soul. I'm starting to think you have some mental conditions in real life, or you just have your bipolar moments. Ever since I met you many years back, you've always sucked up to everyone at the position above you. I've always known you for being the suck-up type. Of course, there is no respect in sucking up, but if you don't suck up, then it's rare that your talent will be noticed, so I applaud you for puckering up to the administration with nice moist lips as you swept the floor as they walked about.

Yes, you got the position, but you got it with no ounce of decency/morality left in you. I help players on Graal without sucking up to anyone. In fact, a few globals dislike me because I actually stand up to them and speak my mind, without sucking up to them like most players do, but I do it in a professional manner, without breaking any rules. Will this attitude get me a global position someday? Probably not, but you know what? If it takes some sucking up to become a global, then I'd rather not become one. I'm not going to change who I am just to get a high position. It's quite ridiculous and is just displaying disrespect towards yourself. I've been playing this game for about 6-8 years now, and I've been developing/helping out Graalians since then. Has all of my hard work paid off? Well, I'm not a global, but if I know I've made a difference for the better for the gameplay of others, then yes, it has paid off. Would it be nice to hold a global position? Sure, it would, but I wouldn't want to have one unless I earned it based on my talents and qualities, and not by how many times I can suck up to the administration in a day.


To Andy:

I didn't talk to you much, but I know that you would help players with scripting problems when they needed help. I always say, if you know how to do it, and someone is asking you for help, then you should help them. It's always a loss for Graal when a talented scripter leaves the game, but I guess someday every developer that developes for the game today will move on to other things. I hope that someday Graal may capture your interest, and that you may come back, and hopefully, enjoy it more than you've ever enjoyed it.

Farewell!

[Chris]

*high fives Sky*

Bye bye Andy

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Stuff.

Right on! I respect your attitude greatly.

[ViCtOrEhEhEh]

Originally Posted by Malinko

Correct!

Silent quit Manager when I was a member of the Playerworld Administration and gave it to me, telling me, "Here, do what you want to it." So I gave it Janus and told me if he isn't active within a month, then I would take it back! AND GUESS WHAT?! He wasn't active within a month.

You're just jealous. You were on Babylon earlier when there was 120 players online. Stop being such a kid and stop whining.

And one more thing, you think I sucked up to be on the PWA and what not? Hah, Stefan asked me to be apart of the PWA for whatever reason. If I did suck up to him to get the job, then I can say this to you. HAHAHA! I win, you lose. Get a life and stop being so jealous. You are one of the people I hate, spreading false rumours just because you're jealous and didn't get where you wanted to, just like half the people on this game. You all laughed until I got into the position. So whine and see you in hell, kid, because I got there, you didn't.

Oh, and one last thing. Get off my lawn.

Bye!

Didn't you die?


P.S. Andy, even though I have no idea who you are, you sound like a cool person and I wish I got to know you but you are leaving Graal and good luck.

[Andy0687]

I am going to reply to everything I need to clear up with some people if I can, I dont like leaving many questions open for thought when I am still able to answer them.

Originally Posted by Malinko

etc

I am so glad you chose to show up in this thread. I thought it was going to expire its full length without idiotic posts. Then again what was I saying, I mentioned you, should have known better.

Silent quit Manager when I was a member of the Playerworld Administration and gave it to me, telling me, "Here, do what you want to it." So I gave it Janus and told me if he isn't active within a month, then I would take it back! AND GUESS WHAT?! He wasn't active within a month.

Funny story about that right, no one was under the impression that you would actually take the server and give it to someone who is KNOWN to be OVERLY INACTIVE. With those kinds of ludacris boundaries. Just like no one else knew you would make Artanis Co-Manager (LOL What talent does she have anyways? Making stupid Mass Messages to myself and the playersl I would assume!).

You're just jealous. You were on Babylon earlier when there was 120 players online. Stop being such a kid and stop whining.

Jealous of what? Kid, I was managing babylon while you were still sucking on the ass of high administration. You also have a long way to go before you will ever touch the playercount it had while I was Manager. I got there because of my talent, what talent do you have that got you where you are at? Feel free to make up anything you want, this should be entertaining. (Prepare for LOLZOMGIROX, type post).

I came on after talking with Sephiroth, I am sure you cant make anything out of the server. You never could when you sucked up to Alexander to be the "Co-Manager" or whatever he was doing with you that was so bad even Outlaw quit.

Now all you have going for you is much like Alexander did, you have your own little following of people, that no matter how many stupid things you do or say. No matter how bad you fail, they will always follow up with "LOL GREAT TRY MALINKO"

And one more thing, you think I sucked up to be on the PWA and what not? Hah, Stefan asked me to be apart of the PWA for whatever reason. If I did suck up to him to get the job, then I can say this to you. HAHAHA! I win, you lose.

Didnt quote the whole part because this is very funny to me "I didnt suck up, but if I did" why dont you just say it. I also dont get how sucking up makes you better then me, dosent living each day of your life without a shred of human dignity bother you? I guess not. Ive done what I do strictly off my own attitude and as far as I can see that was a pretty decent way to go.

So whine and see you in hell, kid, because I got there, you didn't.

I dont know what makes you think youll see me in hell, but at least you know for a fact where you are going!

Originally Posted by Gambet

stuff

Not every talanted scripter will move on. Not everyone has somewhere else to go. Some people will stay around and beg for what graal can be. Its a shame that they will not take the time out to make it that way. They have a very decent concept ruined by very horrible buisness ethics.

Originally Posted by Gerami

DR will suck, broken record, etc

I honestly think if you would take 5 or 10 minutes out to breathe away from Malinko, you would have a better time. Thats just me though.

I think I will opt to PM the other users I have things to say to. Thanks everyone else for the words.

[Lyndzey]

Originally Posted by Malinko

And one more thing, you think I sucked up to be on the PWA and what not? Hah, Stefan asked me to be apart of the PWA for whatever reason. If I did suck up to him to get the job, then I can say this to you. HAHAHA! I win, you lose. Get a life and stop being so jealous. You are one of the people I hate, spreading false rumours just because you're jealous and didn't get where you wanted to, just like half the people on this game. You all laughed until I got into the position. So whine and see you in hell, kid, because I got there, you didn't.

Oh my god. You might have won back when you were first hired, but HEY look who got fired now?! HAHA I WIN BECAUSE I AM HIGHER OMG LOL YOU ARE SO JEALOUS. It's funny how you say "Get a life" considering you spend your entire life on Graal.

Andy, thank you for the nice comments. I apologize for certain people that have ruined this game for you. It's hard not to be jealous of a person who can stab themself and survive, or a person who marries a kid and lives in the same house together that stretches from Conneticut to New Jersey.

And Gambet, you are absolutely right. Sucking up does get people places, unfortunately. There is no logical explaination for Malinko getting to where he was except that he was sucking the owner's .

[maximus_asinus]

There is so much irony in this thread it could be fatal.

[Lord Sephiroth]

rofl shut up gambet rofl

[ViCtOrEhEhEh]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

Oh my god. You might have won back when you were first hired, but HEY look who got fired now?! HAHA I WIN BECAUSE I AM HIGHER OMG LOL YOU ARE SO JEALOUS. It's funny how you say "Get a life" considering you spend your entire life on Graal.

Andy, thank you for the nice comments. I apologize for certain people that have ruined this game for you. It's hard not to be jealous of a person who can stab themself and survive, or a person who marries a kid and lives in the same house together that stretches from Conneticut to New Jersey.

And Gambet, you are absolutely right. Sucking up does get people places, unfortunately. There is no logical explaination for Malinko getting to where he was except that he was sucking the owner's .

I'm still confused. I thought Malinko died...

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

Oh my god. You might have won back when you were first hired, but HEY look who got fired now?! HAHA I WIN BECAUSE I AM HIGHER OMG LOL YOU ARE SO JEALOUS. It's funny how you say "Get a life" considering you spend your entire life on Graal.

That's the fun part, when Stefan talks to me about re-gaining the position I had during the weekend, though, I won't get into that, heh. I didn't care about the higher position, I just like being immature to rub it in people's faces, because that's in fact what people think. Still, I remember times insulting the race I am on Debug, then stating that it was just being drunk. Remember, listen to HoudiniMan's global message, don't be intoxicated on RemoteControl!

Andy, thank you for the nice comments. I apologize for certain people that have ruined this game for you. It's hard not to be jealous of a person who can stab themself and survive, or a person who marries a kid and lives in the same house together that stretches from Conneticut to New Jersey.

I thought James was quitting GraalOnline?! Man, at least get his name correct. I ruined his game? Man, I never even talked to James in a lifetime, for a few months now. Not my fault Alexander and I were a big part of Babylon years ago when he was Manager. The fun part is, Alexander and I are still a big part of Babylon. Plus, you don't know about my life either. :3!

And Gambet, you are absolutely right. Sucking up does get people places, unfortunately. There is no logical explaination for Malinko getting to where he was except that he was sucking the owner's .

I remember Googi and Warcaptain tried to have Stefan explain the reason he hired me back then. Stefan wouldn't answer the question, but he did state that I never did a thing wrong. Who knows the reason, I do not. But I know for sure, I don't suck up to Stefan at all. When I was global staff, I just did whatever he asked me to. Call that sucking up? No, no not at all, I call that being a good staff member for doing what he hired me to do. Maybe others should do the same, but that means you could be sucking up too, right? Maybe that's the reason he listened to me, heh. Look at Vulcan for example, best global staff, best staff from day one. I GUESS HE SUCKED UP TOO. Heh.

[Lyndzey]

Originally Posted by Malinko

That's the fun part, when Stefan talks to me about re-gaining the position I had during the weekend, though, I won't get into that, heh. I didn't care about the higher position, I just like being immature to rub it in people's faces, because that's in fact what people think. Still, I remember times insulting the race I am on Debug, then stating that it was just being drunk. Remember, listen to HoudiniMan's global message, don't be intoxicated on RemoteControl!

When did I insult your race? I never did, and I would never do something like that. Also, you need to learn what the difference is between being intoxicated/drunk and having a couple of beers. Try and understand "sarcasm"
Example:
Konidias: Lyndzey must be drunk or something
Lyndzey: I live in Greenville. I'm drunk 24/7
The above was a joke meant to make fun of the fact that Koni and I both live in this southern hick town. I apologize if you did not understand that and took that to mean that I was so incredibly smashed and unable to control myself. But who was it that couldn't control themselves? Was it the girl who had a couple of beers, or was it the guy that stabbed himself in the stomach because his Graal wife broke up with him?

If Stefan is offering you your position back, PROVE IT! Take it. If that is what Stefan wants, I won't object to him hiring you back. If you just make up some reason to not take it, I can conclude that you are probably lying (Malinko lying?! YEA RIGHT)

Originally Posted by Malinko

I didn't care about the higher position, I just like being immature to rub it in people's faces, because that's in fact what people think.

Gee, I wonder why we think that.

Originally Posted by Malinko

HAHAHA! I win, you lose. Get a life and stop being so jealous. You are one of the people I hate, spreading false rumours just because you're jealous and didn't get where you wanted to, just like half the people on this game. You all laughed until I got into the position. So whine and see you in hell, kid, because I got there, you didn't.

Hmmm...

Originally Posted by Malinko

Who knows the reason, I do not. But I know for sure, I don't suck up to Stefan at all.

I know the reason(s)!
1) Trying to steal Konidias's account. Please don't even try to get out of this one.
2) Placing yourself in charge of Babylon without even mentioning to the PWA that they needed a new owner.
3) Giving out handfuls of items on UN to your "wife" [edit] I almost forgot the giving of 50,000 gralats to yourself on Era for "testing"[/edit]
4) Telling people to choke on chips and die. Lets not forget the immature harassment you have given to Googi and other people on these forums.
5) And last but not least, your suicide attempt/fake suicide attempt. We cannot have a global staff member that has a short fuse. If you were about to kill yourself, you obviously cannot control yourself and thus should not be a global staff member.

Regarding the not sucking up to Stefan part, Hahaha.

Do you actually think you did a good job as a staff member? I know you left <3 messages all over your support tickets (and even would comment telling unixmad how great he was after unix would reply to tickets) and replied to them rather quickly, but that does NOT make you a good staff member. Want to know why you were not a good global? Look at the 5 reasons above.

[Crono]

Malinko loves me.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Malinko loves me.

Crono is God.

I support Cronoism.

[Infernix]

Actually when Janus aka Odin left, I could have taken control on babylon...but hey I guess I didnt wanna deal with the stress and ya know why the hell not give Malinko a chance considering he had the power of PWA. Did I make a mistake? Cause at the moment even with Crono now back on graal, development goes no where. Only telling the truth for the sake of James leaveing graal.

Later James, your were one of the last few people on graal left that I actually give a crap about.

Alexander hasnt logged on Babylon in months btw bud. And I think James would probobly feel bad for babylon since it only gets players when someone masses free npcs or somthing on other servers. -_-

[hidro]

See ya later James. I dont know if you remember but i quit when you Quit Babylon.. i was a GAT... Djinn... Anyways.. Ciao

[Andy0687]

Originally Posted by hidro

See ya later James. I dont know if you remember but i quit when you Quit Babylon.. i was a GAT... Djinn... Anyways.. Ciao

Hey Djinn, yes I remember you, you worked under Raven or Axion. I had to quit bab back then because of the whole Nemesis and Kish thing, I dont think many people know the whole story, but its a lot like a Malinko and Artanis thing! That should spell it out pretty good.

Originally Posted by Infernix

Later James, your were one of the last few people on graal left that I actually give a crap about.

Alexander hasnt logged on Babylon in months btw bud. And I think James would probobly feel bad for babylon since it only gets players when someone masses free npcs or somthing on other servers. -_-

Thanks a lot Inferno, I know we have our times which are up and down, you really do try hard to do what you do. Its just no one else wants to help.

I do think you made a bit of a mistake, you could have done the same thing Odin did. He messaged me on AIM and Brought me to Babylon to be his Co-Manager (Which is funny if you consider this whole situation that I was pretty much ignored and removed when Malinko came and took over).

I came on to laugh at him and tell him how he is not allowed to do that because I also run the server with Odin, and he removed me. Being the game we are on and power is everything, me, a lowly little player compared to him, powerless.

I obviously would have lended my experince and talent to you as well. Babylon is my favorite server.

It does sadden me that they have lowered babylon to such a state that it is only gaining players when they give away npcs, then they lie to the players and say that they will never take the npcs away even though, they obviously will.

Hiring Rogue staff from servers like UN also raises their playercount. I think I counted 5 people who PMed me when i logged on, who did not start as staff, and within 10-20 minutes had an RC.

I honestly think anyone would be better then Malinko, but obviously I am mildly biased to myself, because we did such a great job back then. Sorry that it did not work out better for you, but look at it this way, it hasnt worked out for anyone. Maybe thats why no development ever gets done.

Guess you can add those things to his Extensive laundry list.

Originally Posted by Malinko

I never talked to James in a Lifetime

Why dont we add another thing to the list, how about on AIM when you Messaged me asking me to help you with NPCs for Kingdoms? This while I was not on graal! I knew you would take the credit all for yourself. Now I cant help but somehow feel responsible for you gaining more power. Which makes me feel much worse.

[ViCtOrEhEhEh]

I dont have time to read all these posts but 1 thing I can say is: Haha Malinko you died and said you died pretending it was your friend but since you dont have friends that one part is false and you killing yourself is sadly, false.

[Crono]

Heh, I never see this side of Gambet anymore. It's more like "LOL KIL DEM NUBS" on Era.

[adam]

lol, u should goto that other forum.
I forget what it called.

cya

[Aknts]

I never even heard of Malinko until like a couple months ago. Is it a he or a she?

[Andy0687]

Originally Posted by Aknts

I never even heard of Malinko until like a couple months ago. Is it a he or a she? Anyways Malinko is a nobody with a position thats it.

Thats the biggest problem.

When everyone else has helped so much and then Nobody comes along and takes credit for everything and gets a position with no knowledge of anything.

Its pretty sad.

Originally Posted by Adam

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hi