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Sunnyville - Hiring ALL!

Sunnyville is currently hiring every type of developer (NO NON DEVS!) except for NATs. It's currently located on my Esteria server. Yes, Esteria is gone. It was being veeeery sluggish in terms of work. Peeki made a whole server idea, he was first a NAT on Esteria, and Angelu said we could use the stuff he's made, so we already have the bodies done and part of the tiles :P. The idea is in the document ;)

It looks quite nice :) Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1363369)

(Note: For NAT you will need to know how to use MUDs)

I hear this alot when dealing with up and coming servers. Problem is that the term "MUD/Mud/mud" is so overly used and such a widespread term there are too many "types" of "MUDs/Muds/muds" for a scripter to be familiar with all types of "MUDs/Muds/muds".

Even then, based off the article you just posted, which I did read, you don't really have a major need for a Multi-User Dungeon of any kind. You should try taking a look at Inverness FormData systems or just hiring a scripter who can do all that you ask without having the often-extensive amount of knowledge needed to make 'real' "MUD/Mud/mud".

P.S. I use the term 'real' when referring to "MUDs/Muds/muds" lightly due to the fact that I based my idea of a 'real' "MUD/Mud/mud" from the overall design of Kingdoms Mud, Skyld's opinions on the matter, and Inverness 'obsession' with Multi-User Dungeons.

All The Best, Sincerely yours,

- Stan

Ah, true Stan. I editted the first post ;) the MUD system like I said is for items. Say you have multiple ones. Instead of using a clientr. flag we're putting it in the MUD. So far that's the only reason for it, plus the "levelling" system.
I hate seeing like 10,000 clientr. flags on someone so this will be easier lol

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1363377)

Ah, true Stan.

Aww, don't pretend like you understand a thing I said. >_<

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1363377)

I editted the first post ;) the MUD system like I said is for items. Say you have multiple ones.

*sigh* :p Then it aint no real mud then hillfolk! *country*

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1363377)

Instead of using a clientr. flag we're putting it in the MUD. So far that's the only reason for it, plus the "levelling" system.

There are mudlibs that use clientr. flags for accessing their information clientside at the most. Because the main mudlib information and editing of that information should be done serverside.

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1363377)

I hate seeing like 10,000 clientr. flags on someone so this will be easier lol

It probably won't. XD

[QUOTE=Kyranki;1363381]Aww, don't pretend like you understand a thing I said. >_<[QUOTE]
What's that mean?

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There are mudlibs that use clientr. flags for accessing their information clientside at the most. Because the main mudlib information and editing of that information should be done serverside.

Don't ruin the moment that I have everything uner control >:o
It probably will use SOME clientr. flags, money is a maybe, rest points, etc.

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It probably won't. XD

Most servers do.

I just noticed this was in the wrong forums Mods please move? :oo:

Woha. I love the Idea. It's gonna be nice to see how this thing turns out :).

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1363382)

Most servers do.

I was referring to your predictions of it being easier due to a system style change.

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Originally Posted by Kyranki (Post 1363402)

I was referring to your predictions of it being easier due to a system style change.

It wasn't really how I meant that, it's just not gonna have EVERYTHING in clientr. flags, making it easier to see than some other servers :asleep:

I like what this server is hoping to become :) Very nice!
But I have to admit that it is one hell of a job. I don't know how you planned Esteria but if you fail the same way it would be a real shame...

Yea great job Switch and employees, keep it up :)

You dropped Esteria for earthbound?

oh boy

My definition of a MUD is a game system that overwrites Graal's default system with a style similar to most MMORPGs.

And no I am not obsessed with them, its usually the first thing to do though, and I'm a perfectionist.

I would suggest using clientr. flags for a low to mid level MUD system, using objects and such will just make your life harder.

No offense but there are to many ideas in the world. It is not a lack of ideas but a lack of good hard workers. Good luck with your server but I doubt this will go anywhere with all the servers that have died lately.

Back in old graal when people had an idea they did it.

LOL Thanks for the positive feedback :D

Really, we just need a GAT to finish the tileset, and a LAT to do some levels.

Just letting you all know, there's only 2 months left of Dev Gold time...
We've gotten pretty far, with only 1 staff (Peeki). So far we have about 60% of the basic Item System done, and the basic Q-Menu is complete.

Another update:
Done the Item System. We just need a GAT and a few LATs.

An idea popped in my head about 1 hr ago though:
Instead of getting aGAT to make the tiles, maybe we could use GX's tiles, atleast for a bit.
Feedback on that?
Of course we don't plan to make GX, only use the tiles

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh (Post 1367720)

Illegal zomg??

Why's it illegal if i were to get permission?

Just got a site (Thanks Twinny :))
http://sunnyville.graalstudios.com/

I looked at the server idea. And It's great. Although it does seem to have to much going on. I reckon it could be a success if you get the right staff.

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Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1369716)

I looked at the server idea. And It's great. Although it does seem to have to much going on. I reckon it could be a success if you get the right staff.

Peeki's left me with the idea mine, though I'm still giving him all the credit for the idea.
Yes, we need staff, urgently. Without staff (good, active ones) I won't be upgrading the server, and I will NOT, me NOR Peeki, will give rights to the idea.

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1369779)

I will NOT, me NOR Peeki, will give rights to the idea.

In other words. Back off Jigga ;)

Anyway, I hope you get the some good staff to help with the development. The idea is strong and I'd like to see it go through.

Yeah
Too bad no one really says, when they go on, "Need help with dev work?"...

Edit:
Here's an...
Improved "Phase" listing. It's pretty simple, not sure why we can't do it in maybe a year for the first town.

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Phase 1-
This is the beginning, during this phase we hope to get, the
tileset up, player GUI up, the Nats and Gats will be working
together with this one, and a basic weapon system which is
able to hit npc's as well as players oh and the hp system to go
with it. Depending on the staff, we can vote if we need a
movement system or not. But most likely this will be in phase
1. During phase one LATS will be drawing rough sketch's of
the overall playerworld, where to position the hospitals
etc, this will be uploaded in a folder once completed. Not
much for LATS to do without a tileset so that will be the
main priority during this phase. If current LATS have any
other skills, id be a bonus. Stats and exp system as well
as others will be developed during phases 1 and 2.
[More about it at the end of this page]

Phase 2-
Major focus will be on getting the world created during this
phase, and sections will be made for NATS and GATS to start
producing something. These major sections will be player
house, dungeons, shops, hospitals. We will start inside the
levels first, and then create the outside of the Town to
link in to the Levels, this will allow the NATS and GATS
to start working on scripts and graphics. (shops, items,
player houses)

Phase 3-
Implementing the security to all our systems to prevent
hackers, and a upgrade of our systems, like hp, to get
poison effects. Stun, confused etc. Lats and nats will do
their thing still finishing up bits and peices of things
around the place. Getting new gani's making things better,
getting more items drawn up

Phase 4-
Major focus will be polishing up all the server, fixing all
the minor bugs and balancing of monsters and etc, at this
point. Also maybe develop a basic tutorial for all the new
members.. here is a idea of a tutorial... the player starts
in a dream.. it shows basic concepts of the all the system,
and giving practical tasks and guiding the player through
to achieve them. Then the player wakes up in his bedroom,
where he can explore the world for himself.

Phase 5-
Working with the public for more input on balancing of
monsters, stats, items, and finding what players want more
of. While working on a new town with new caps and repeat of
Phase 2 onwards.

(Can't edit, sorry)
We got a GFXer who's working on the modern tiles, and almost done :)
They look actually pretty good in relation to a REAL city.

(Can't edit, again)
Tileset's done, yay!
Now we jsut need the basic systems done (End of Phase 1)

That's just the current temp level. There are MANY tiles in the tileset to experiment with.

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh (Post 1370522)

Show them off!!!

As in post the tiles?
If not, what you're asking to do, for me, is impossible, because I'm not that good at leveling. Notice how I copied that little "park" area 7 times and placed it around the middle :p

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh (Post 1370607)

Dont have any LAT?

Sadly no.
Only staff is Peeki, PlRAT (who gets on occassionaly), Killa Be, and me.
But anyway, we don't need LATs during this phase. Right now just a few NATs to finish the systems.
Though Levelers would be helpful so we have a bit of work done for the second phase. I put together a 12x14 level GMAP (first town) and filled it all in with the grass tiles, so if any Levelers would like to join you still can.
But yes we DO need some Scripters.