To the people against the Classic P2P plan and/or anti-P2P "rebels".
 

This is mostly for those people who didn't like the P2P plan for Classic and PWs, people who dislike P2P altogether, or those idiots at SG111.

This whole anti-P2P thing is IDIOTIC AND POINTLESS. Even if you did have some vaild points, which you don't, you are going about this in a stupid and hypocritical way. You guys are forming anti-Graal groups, using trainers more frequently, making petetions, making hate sites and distributing illegal information, all for what, $15?
So you don't want to spend $15, that isn't the point. You don't want to spend $15 dollars, so you take up hours and hours of time to support your cause to not spend $15 while you could be spending your time making MONEY or doing something with yourself. You waste time worth way more than $15 so you can try to not spend $15? Sounds pretty dumb.

Anyway these are your arguements I hear often against this, I'll now be shooting them down one by one.

Arguement: Graal isn't worth paying $15 for.
Counter: It's what it is worth to each player, not just to you, if it isn't worth $15 to you, then leave, don't waste time *****ing about it if it isn't worth it, it's futile.

Arguement: We shouldn't pay for something the players helped create.
Counter: You act like everyone put their part into Graal, that is far from the truth, I doubt every single player has contributed to Graal, not even close.
For the people who have though:
1.They did it on their own free will, no one forced them to contribute, Unixmad didn't hold a gun to their head to make them work on Graal, they did it because they wanted to.
2.They didn't do for the reason of not paying for Graal, they did it because they wanted to see their work go up, most online games won't even think of putting player's work up on the playable world. You guys are lucky to have that.

Arguement: I don't want to put it on my credit card.
Counter: That's what the phone system is going to be for.*sigh*

Arguement:I've played this game for free for a long time, why the hell should I pay?
Counter: You mean you've been FREELOADING for a long time?...I don't give a damn how long you've played, that doesn't give you any leway off the price, so you've played a long time, whatis that worth to Unix and Stefan. Not a damn thing.

That's about all I hear, so to sum it up.

Unixmad and Stefan have been giving you this game and contributing into this game for a LONG time, and it is costing them both time and money. I think they deserve a LITTLE something after they've been giving you Graal for the past 5 years for nil. They are trying to make money on this to make a living, not provide you with infinite fun. You have no right to be demanding that this be free, it isn't even yours. The only thing you should do is ask, which isn't even logical. You'd basically be asking Unixmad to flush a very promising money making opportunity down the toilet.

So I leave with you anti-P2Ps:
GET A CLUE.

~Dark Cloud

Umm...non-p2p people don't generally read the forums.

Some free people do to see what is going on, SG111 pays visits often, they just can't post. So basically you don't know they are there.
They are those people listed as "Guest"

You just about summed it all up, DC. :)

The only thing you need to say to the people who are against it is....................tuff!
Its gonna happen, if you dont pay bye bye.
Plain and simple.

Heh, well when you get PM after PM of "PLZ GO TO THIS PETETION AND SIGN AGAINST P2P" or "GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND SEE WHY YOU SHOULDN'T PAY", you just gotta do something :)

You forgot the other stupid one..

Argument: Weel teh graal staffs are corrupts and teh have bad business tactics so I r be against graal and waist mi tiem tyring to riun it!

Sounds like what most people on Graal 2001 think(not the being against Graal part though). :x

hi

i just red everyting and i agree !@;)

Thats funny because I can not see one thing the staff has done that is corrupt or would cause a problem. People just try to whine over anything.

I cant say anything about the staff because I havent been on Graal. When I did go on Graal 2001, I never did get an answer from a Police/RC or anyone(lazy!). And dont throw out excuses you have alot of people PM'ing you, Classic GP's always responded to me and im sure they have alot more people PM'ing them. I rely on feedback to see how Graal is doing. Alot of the people on these forums do cry for no reason(reason why Poizon quit). But I still hear(well, see) people complaining about Graal 2001 being boring, about it dying, etc. Oh well ;)

hi

hi

this is why dc is my hero :)