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shayden 08-28-2001 01:47 AM

Stefan, Why not add FTP to RC?
 
I think i've come up with a solution to the "hacking" FTP Problem, why don't you add an FTP Program to RC? This way you could give certain members rights to only access certain folders on FTP if they have the right to access it anyways. (E.G- LAT could only put things in levels folder) And you could also set permission for people to delete things too. No one but you would need to know the FTP Password. Well, tell me what you guys think, I think it would solve a lot of problems with PWs.

Drakaden_2001 08-28-2001 01:50 AM

Well it may work, but i'm sure there still a problem somewhere, but i can't get my finger on the bad point... Anyway, if it could make the PWs more secure it's already a good improvement.

shayden 08-28-2001 02:04 AM

yeah, stefan will probly shoot it down but it's worth a try.

Torankusu 08-28-2001 05:31 AM

Yes, and what happens when the password for so and so's account (lets say all access) gets leaked, and then they delete the serverfiles that way?

Milkdude99 08-28-2001 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Yes, and what happens when the password for so and so's account (lets say all access) gets leaked, and then they delete the serverfiles that way?
I agree with that totally,unixmad has a better idea by restricting the IP.If someone has a password to ftp but not from the right IP then access will be denied to it,this I think will solve all the password issues with FTP.But I have not heard from him lately on this plan he mention to me as of yet.

Torankusu 08-28-2001 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
I agree with that totally,unixmad has a better idea by restricting the IP.If someone has a password to ftp but not from the right IP then access will be denied to it,this I think will solve all the password issues with FTP.But I have not heard from him lately on this plan he mention to me as of yet.
Who or how will this IP list be controlled by? If Stefan and Unixmad, its a bad idea because it is hard enough to get a Playerworld's FTP change passed..

shayden 08-28-2001 09:16 AM

Torankusu, you do know you have to have your IP class on the list to use RC, right?

Milkdude99 08-28-2001 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
Who or how will this IP list be controlled by? If Stefan and Unixmad, its a bad idea because it is hard enough to get a Playerworld's FTP change passed..
I guess they will ,and I do know of the problems involved in that.But then again this crap with the deleting of PW levels has to be stopped somehow.The plan may not be perfect but then again what is?
If the IP can be controled at the RC level which is also tied into the FTP then maybe it can be accomplished that way and quick adjustments may also be done that way.At least thats my idea.

Crybos 08-28-2001 08:51 PM

I don't like the idea with this FTP RC thing. If you don't want people getting into your FTP, just limit to what staff members you can trust to use it right.

Admins 08-28-2001 09:04 PM

Yes we are planning to add some ftp thing to RC or NPC control,
but more as additional thing (for uploading/downloading
levels), a full-featured ftp program would take a lot of
work, don't know

Crybos 08-28-2001 09:11 PM

Hmmm, Yes. Maybe for just like RC FTP, for making Guild Tags Quicker, but downloading/uploading levels, you need an FTP Program, like we do today...

shayden 08-28-2001 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes we are planning to add some ftp thing to RC or NPC control,
but more as additional thing (for uploading/downloading
levels), a full-featured ftp program would take a lot of
work, don't know

FTP is actually one of the easiest things to program, granted it's not as complex as WS_FTP

Quistor 08-28-2001 10:34 PM

Re: Stefan, Why not add FTP to RC?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by shayden
...This way you could give certain members rights to only access certain folders on FTP if they have the right to access it anyways...
You can do that with a regular FTP hosting program, at least a good quality one.

Milkdude99 08-28-2001 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crybos
Hmmm, Yes. Maybe for just like RC FTP, for making Guild Tags Quicker, but downloading/uploading levels, you need an FTP Program, like we do today...
I use Cute FTP Pro and is much better than regular cute FTP. But yes it is not cheap 69.95
but I use it for alot of things so was worth the money to me. :D

Milkdude99 08-29-2001 12:02 AM

FTP RC
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes we are planning to add some ftp thing to RC or NPC control,
but more as additional thing (for uploading/downloading
levels), a full-featured ftp program would take a lot of
work, don't know

I agree it would take alot of work,but then again protection of all Player Worlds would be worth it would it not?For some of us this may only be a hobby but for others like yourself ,it is a business and if it were me I would want to protect my investment any way I could.Then again this is only my opinion.

Crybos 08-29-2001 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
I use Cute FTP Pro and is much better than regular cute FTP. But yes it is not cheap 69.95
but I use it for alot of things so was worth the money to me. :D

I use WS_FTP, it doesn't cost me anything, plus I don't like to spend alot of money. :D

Nishoku 08-29-2001 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crybos


I use WS_FTP, it doesn't cost me anything, plus I don't like to spend alot of money. :D

The dude does have good idea, but there is a down side to everything. You just got to find it, :). It would help I As an owner run the server alot smoother, I have staff begging all the time for FTP, but I cannot do that, :'(

shayden 08-29-2001 04:36 AM

I use DOS ftp client you little fancy pants witches, what a real man uses =) We don't need no damned GUIs!
But anyways, I think this could really help on Graal. Oh yeah, I like the levels on Xone =)

Nishoku 08-29-2001 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shayden
I use DOS ftp client you little fancy pants witches, what a real man uses =) We don't need no damned GUIs!
But anyways, I think this could really help on Graal. Oh yeah, I like the levels on Xone =)

Yea, Our levels are high in quality, But we have No NPC quality, :'( We have no NATs currently.. And the full server isn't even uploaded... Know anyone who can script good tell them to IM me, or something.

fuzie 08-29-2001 03:10 PM

why not have the rc allowed to change or update the levels etc. and have a save option in ftp to save the server file>???? this is a great idea

Milkdude99 08-29-2001 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzie
why not have the rc allowed to change or update the levels etc. and have a save option in ftp to save the server file>???? this is a great idea
RC already updates levels. :megaeek:

fuzie 08-30-2001 03:23 AM

and upload them too and the ftpshould have a history of what happened and it can go backin history to what it has done! i ahve this on another comp of mine

shayden 08-30-2001 03:33 AM

Stefan! Release Linux version of Graal so i can use it on t1 computer! =)

Aknts 08-30-2001 06:56 AM

Why even DOWNLOAD an FTP program?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Crybos


I use WS_FTP, it doesn't cost me anything, plus I don't like to spend alot of money. :D

Why does anyone need a program? :confused:
Just use Internet Explorer, or is there something wrong with that?

- Shrimp
Thank You to Spanky for letting me use his account

shayden 08-30-2001 07:06 AM

Umm...Not everyone has browsing enhancements.

Merlin2 08-31-2001 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
I use Cute FTP Pro and is much better than regular cute FTP. But yes it is not cheap 69.95
but I use it for alot of things so was worth the money to me. :D

it is called "CRACKING"

Merlin2 08-31-2001 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzie
why not have the rc allowed to change or update the levels etc. and have a save option in ftp to save the server file>???? this is a great idea
That is a terrible idea. :grrr:

Merlin2 08-31-2001 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by SOTO
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Milkdude99 08-31-2001 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Merlin2


That is a terrible idea. :grrr:

I tend to agree. :megaeek: :spam: :spam: :spam: :megaeek:

shayden 08-31-2001 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Merlin2


That is a terrible idea. :grrr:

Dumb Ideas come from dumb people....


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