Originally Posted by Cubical (Post 1683282)

Is it possible top get into beta testing for it

Originally Posted by Cubical (Post 1683282)

Is it possible top get into beta testing for it do I have something to do 8 hours a day at work

Originally Posted by CCZCOOL

I would pay much more for it to be able to play on actual computer servers and not on the dumbed-down, dull, limited systems such as are found on idevices/facebook. <3

Originally Posted by Crono

p2 @ 233mhz ran graal fine and it looked about the same ;]

Originally Posted by Cubical

Yeah my phone is like 100 times better than that

Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1683361)

Not sure if there will be an open beta test yet.

In practice this is not very straight-forward; PC servers are notoriously bad for running lots of clientside scripts and timeouts which slow down Graal on slower devices. I noticed that a lot of PC servers were quite playable on the XOOM tablet (aside from the differences in controls), but were very laggy on the Nexus One. I've yet to test it with the Galaxy Nexus.


A lot of the problem here is that devices use frequency scaling to reduce the processor speed in order to save battery, and more to the point, that the graphics pipelines in most devices are a lot slower than in PCs. For example, we noticed a big difference in performance on Classic iPhone on older devices when not drawing the nicknames. It's not "just" the CPU speed that makes a difference. Touchscreen drivers also use a huge amount of processing time, which means if the device is actively tracking your fingers at a given moment, that's much less processing power available to the applications until you stop touching the screen.

Originally Posted by CCZCOOL (Post 1683478)

I'm not a handheld-savvy like you seem to be. Do the devices still throttle power when connected to something providing it power? I wouldn't mind being able to play on an almost-real PC server, on a tablet/phone if I had to be plugged into a wall as much as I mind playing Graal on an iphone.

Originally Posted by CCZCOOL (Post 1683478)

I have the app...I just cannot tolerate all the features which have been eliminated or how difficult it has become just to hold a conversation with another player. So I don't play it on the iphone. If I could access UN (for example) from a handheld portable device, and be able to see a playerlist, to play events, and to chat with my friends...this would totally be awesome.

Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1683481)

Depending on the device, the frequency scaling either will take place to a lesser extent when connected to AC power, or it'll simply run the CPU at normal power until being disconnected again. The limiting factor tends not to be just the CPU though, but also the graphics capability of the device and memory available.

This is quite a real possibility as far as tablets are concerned, but I think an unlikely one still. The problem still lies in the fact that most servers are not equipped to deal with touchscreen-only players properly; there are years of scripts on the PC servers which were never designed with touch users in mind. My server (Rudora) is a good concept of both PC and touch players being supported equally, but a lot of the code was written to be that way. Unfortunately Stefan is not as keen on the scripting on Rudora if it were to be used for a mobile server, preferring to replace it with the code that is used on Classic iPhone instead.