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Stokell88 03-11-2009 02:33 PM

Events Coins
 
Can someone explain to me the point of winning events coins, only to be able to buy things like gas and shurikens?

As we all know, nothing worth spending your ECs on is ever stocked, and probably won't be for a long time. But why? Other servers don't do this, i'm sure they don't even have a limit on the items, but you have to save up more events coins / points to get the better items.

The whole point of winning events coins seems pointless, i think there should be either more things available, for more events coins, or stock some of the current items and give them a price tag of 1000EC. It gives players something to work towards, and would make events busier.

Like i said, as it currently stands, all the players can trade their ECs for is things they don't want, such as bubblegum, cigarettes, throwing knives, and shurikens. I'm sure someone has some initiative and could come up with a better system. :noob:

Opinions?

Tim_Rocks 03-11-2009 04:11 PM

I agree with ya. But I think it would be a bad idea to stock some of the rare items. Idk maybe we should get some new ec items.

Maybe some one could throw out some suggestions. I can't think of anything atm

Frankie 03-11-2009 04:14 PM

It's also funny that the items you buy with EC are banned in events. Doesn't make any sense at all.

If they were to implement high costing event items, they need to be undroppable. This way players can't save up event coins, buy a rare item, and then get rich off of it.

Stokell88 03-11-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1473121)
If they were to implement high costing event items, they need to be undroppable. This way players can't save up event coins, buy a rare item, and then get rich off of it.

Agreed :)

Tim_Rocks 03-11-2009 04:34 PM

Just a thought, but what do you think of this?
A 10 min spy on any guild "/toguild or /tg" it could be very useful to spy on BB while they are raiding BH. So BH could know what to exspect.

Just a small thought, I'm trying to think of something useful that would be nice to spend ec on =D

Frankie 03-11-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1473125)
Just a thought, but what do you think of this?
A 10 min spy on any guild "/toguild or /tg" it could be very useful to spy on BB while they are raiding BH. So BH could know what to exspect.

Just a small thought, I'm trying to think of something useful that would be nice to spend ec on =D

if they know that there's a possibility they're being spied on, I think they would use other means of communication, such as vent which is very popular these days.

Stokell88 03-11-2009 04:40 PM

Anyone else think it would be a good idea for add-ons for guns? You know, that give you more spread, less spread, better fire rate... etc

Tim_Rocks 03-11-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1473127)
if they know that there's a possibility they're being spied on, I think they would use other means of communication, such as vent which is very popular these days.

Oh right forgot about that.

Yes to add ons, it sounds like a decent idea. I know for the fn2k there are already gfx for posible add ons. But a lot of guns might need new gfx. Or maybe the ec shop could release a new gun and just that one gun could could have an option for a couple addons.

Eh, I like the idea not sure how to do it.

k_killar 03-11-2009 08:05 PM

and who wants to buy fake cigs and stupid bubble gum gani LuL shurikens and knives

cbk1994 03-11-2009 11:12 PM

I agree with you. There are only a few items in the EC shop worth getting, and most are just aesthetics. Once you do that, there are only a few items that you will continually need to buy, and virtually none that you want to buy.

The solution isn't to simply stock a bunch of axes/bamboos/etc, but to find a better way to reward players with events.

Perhaps a way to turn event coins into money or something else that players can use; I don't really like the idea of just making them sellable to some NPC.

Frankie 03-11-2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1473217)
I agree with you. There are only a few items in the EC shop worth getting, and most are just aesthetics. Once you do that, there are only a few items that you will continually need to buy, and virtually none that you want to buy.

The solution isn't to simply stock a bunch of axes/bamboos/etc, but to find a better way to reward players with events.

Perhaps a way to turn event coins into money or something else that players can use; I don't really like the idea of just making them sellable to some NPC.

Event coins and event items should be completely separate from the economy.

The items that are sold also shouldn't be too powerful. Event items should be a novelty. Some items are used in PK but don't give too great of an advantage like a flak cannon does.

cbk1994 03-11-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1473219)
Event coins and event items should be completely separate from the economy.

The items that are sold also shouldn't be too powerful. Event items should be a novelty. Some items are used in PK but don't give too great of an advantage like a flak cannon does.

I agree with you completely. The problem is more or less finding items that aren't incredibly lame, and that players still would work for/be motivated to acquire.

Tytan 03-16-2009 08:31 PM

I agree, and being ETA i asked Deophite, he told me not to stock anything, i think it is pretty useless to save up your EC's for so long then not be able to buy anything but worthless gas and ammo for stuff you cant use, We(as in me and Nas) are working on some new event prizes and such that wont be like weapons and such, mayeb a few, but also some like little toys and stuff.

BlueMelon 03-16-2009 08:41 PM

yah... but now theres the boomer out for 150 perfect logs... 1 perfectlog = 500$ 150x 500 = 75k...
so yah "boomers are no longer rare.. nor worth 2mil

Tytan 03-16-2009 09:18 PM

Lol boomers shouldnt have been made a Logging item without permission from myself or something lol. thats such a dumb idea if you ask me. If i cant stock them why should they be an item in the dumb store.

cbk1994 03-16-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tytan (Post 1475097)
Lol boomers shouldnt have been made a Logging item without permission from myself or something lol. thats such a dumb idea if you ask me. If i cant stock them why should they be an item in the dumb store.

Though it's not even remotely your decision whether or not to make them a "logging item", I agree with you completely.

People worked forever to get boomerangs, and soon there will be many of them.

When I brought this up before the release, I was basically told "Well, they won't be rare anymore".

Sorry to everyone who spent a ton of money on them, I guess.

salesman 03-16-2009 09:54 PM

Event items shouldn't be tradeable/worth any amount of money anyways

DKH89 03-16-2009 09:56 PM

thats been said 100 times but yet they still are

Shotoo2 03-16-2009 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytan (Post 1475097)
Lol boomers shouldnt have been made a Logging item without permission from myself or something lol. thats such a dumb idea if you ask me. If i cant stock them why should they be an item in the dumb store.

I do agree that boomerangs should've been left as they were.

I don't really see why people can just make them now; it seems like people ran out of ideas for things to do with the wood products.

salesman 03-16-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotoo2 (Post 1475124)
I do agree that boomerangs should've been left as they were.

I don't really see why people can just make them now; it seems like people ran out of ideas for things to do with the wood products.

Being able to make boats would be kewl...but there'd need to be a reason for boats. Fishing?

Shotoo2 03-16-2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1475126)
Being able to make boats would be kewl...but there'd need to be a reason for boats. Fishing?

Boats and fishing have been tossed around on the drawing board forever. No one ever seems to get around to actually developing them.

I don't think it'd be a bad idea really. Some dev would just have to take on the task.


P.S. to whatever developers read this: Make sure any new jobs that are added are balanced with the old jobs. We can't have people abandon all the old ways of getting money because one of the new ways is way more profitable.

cbk1994 03-16-2009 11:28 PM

I don't know why fishing has never been added. If there's a demand for it, and graphics can be found/made, I'll script it. I'll ask Deophite when I see him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotoo2 (Post 1475130)
P.S. to whatever developers read this: Make sure any new jobs that are added are balanced with the old jobs. We can't have people abandon all the old ways of getting money because one of the new ways is way more profitable.

Yes, we certainly wouldn't want the manly gang members to stop picking flowers and start sailing on boats, catching fish.

Tytan 03-17-2009 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1475126)
Being able to make boats would be kewl...but there'd need to be a reason for boats. Fishing?

Yea they could have made some really cool things with the wood shop, the boat was a great idea, brought up hundred if times, same with the fishing, people have been asking for fishing since old Era, but you can make hundred of things with wood, maybe if it was thought out more there could have been cooler logging prizes to actually make it fun, and worth while. maybe like wooden furnitrue for your house, or wooden airplanes you throw around or something, i can GFX all this in like 3 seconds.

cbk1994 03-17-2009 02:01 AM

Someone mentioned paper for when Era News starts up again; that seems like a good idea ... the "newsetts" have to run around chopping trees for paper which they can publish on.

They already have to make paper, but I forget what it takes to make it.

Tytan 03-17-2009 02:16 AM

well you can change it where they put logs into a big machien and it puts out like 2 SHEETS of paper, which then get turned into 4 pages or such, and thye could make a small profit on the side. so they actually have a right to do it

BlueMelon 03-17-2009 12:49 PM

I actually think they shouldv waited to release the bow again.. They could added that and the arrows to the woodshop. Maybe there could be a wooden staff that is less powerful then the bamboo? and that destroys after maybe like 1000 hits? i dont know.

CharlieM 03-17-2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1475201)

They already have to make paper, but I forget what it takes to make it.

Probably like 2 lead and 1 Iron, supr realstic

Frankie 03-17-2009 04:12 PM

boats would be good.
but I guarantee nobody on the staff team can make a decent graphic.

all these new graphics look like ****.

Tytan 03-17-2009 09:38 PM

Frankie, i used to have a boat GFX, i think i showed you it, it was like a row boat, it was really good, but ill have to find it lol.

Frankie 03-18-2009 06:16 PM

screw row boats.
we need motor boats.

mange remember caramel's ****ty boat back when she plastered the shorelines with ugly docks and her giant island?

salesman 03-18-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1475637)
screw row boats.
we need motor boats.

mange remember caramel's ****ty boat back when she plastered the shorelines with ugly docks and her giant island?

I think those were made by soffro

Frankie 03-18-2009 06:22 PM

who knows. it looked like garbage either way.
95% of the graphic artists on this game don't know how to draw their stuff in the right perspective.

Shotoo2 03-18-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1475637)
screw row boats.
we need motor boats.

mange remember caramel's ****ty boat back when she plastered the shorelines with ugly docks and her giant island?

Bwahahahah
She INSISTED on Era having cliffs and fishing and a gated community. That island took up about half of the entire ocean area too.


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