GK .. Need I say more?..
 

GK needs to change.. x_x It's not fun anymore.. its more stressful and fustrating. Especialy when it comes to the people. Instead of being nice and being friends.. people harrass, scam, steal, and insult everyone. I remember when we could do trades and be idle without worrying on people pking you.

Also it seems like everyone, alot of people decide they have to be the best and the highest so they find every bug/glitch possible or abuse powers so they can be. It's very fustrating for me when I don't cheat or use any glitches or bugs and it takes forever to level and you see those who do are able to kill you instantly because of their cheated stats.

Then when some of us try to stop all the cheating and all the corruption we get harrassed and pked and insulted.

I'd quit if It wasn't for friends and people I like to talk to. Why can't people just be nice and stop all this BS. :\ Why does a game have to be stressing? Why do we have to be suffering from the people who cheat and they don't get punished at all. We need staff who can do things like that.. We also need to get back to the way GK is supposed to be, a RP Environment.

Did you just notice this? I got bored of the server last year. I would say much more extreme things right now but I'd get banned, again.

GK was my favorite server, until I myself got tired of it. People charge incredible amounts for silly weapons, and the strong abuse on the weak. It's ridiculous, really, but there really arnt any staff to put control on things. Jagen is hardly on and when he is, he doesnt really try to set things straight. In fact, Jagen has done a few corrupt things, but i wont get into that. GK needs some good mangement. If not, well, then eventually it will fall apart. Now that the new alchemy is being released, people with massive amounts of platinum are going to buy every book, then make every item, and then sell it off for unbelieavable prices. It's ridiculous. Not to mention everyone steals kills from others :\.

The solution is a lot harder than you think it is...

And you think it's stressing to play here.

Ha.

Well, when you really think about it, the players roam about freely and do as they please. There arnt any staff to set control and when the staff are on its as if they arnt on. Stressful? at times. Irritating? at times. Not much to do, except suck it in, because unless there's a change, then things might get worse.

Yea. Right now I can't even go and trade items.. because people don't like Nayoko so they come and attack me. I don't see the logic in that.. But they do that. It's quite fustrating.. and the people who do attack.. they have all these items and their stuff EA'ed to +12 so I have no way to hurt them except for magic.. except. Everytime I try to cast they can just come quickly and hit me while I get frozen by being hit and I end up dying. .. I can't even hang out with friends in trading because I get attacked by Craigus and Vlad, plus some others.. x_x. Not only that.. they come looking for me.. I was idle in a shop and next thing I know I get warned that they are coming..no sooner do I step out they are right outside the door blocking my way through. I wish there was a penelty for PKing.. And they make the trade room no pk. It would be better.

You know, most people would say "Well, then you should get on pmode", but what i personally think is, why should we be forced to? If players are ruining the experience for others, then why should we be forced to run and hide in pmode? The trading levels and the shops should ALL be a no pk zone. Its ridiculous that you can pk people in a trade room or in shops.

Not technically forcing her, but still, as I think she said, she's in b-mode for the higher exp in maps.

PKing sucks, but when you're powerful it's fun, I have to admit. Some people don't care who they PK, they just want the fun... others have some respect, and they know they will get their respect back, especially from people like me.

I wish to ask now that i see this subject brought up again, is GK still being worked on? as in a certain stage of development?

It's all good that there are great weapons to find and levels to gain, but there really needs to be a cap on all of it.


The strongest monsters are no problem once anyone reaches level 15, and the only reson for such high levels and the ability to make weapons of awsome power are for the thought of PKing only, If this was really intended to be a role play server something should be done about the weapons, armor with +10, and everything really.


If your only building this server on player suggestions then you messed up early and need to try the server yourself, stop working on G3D or something and see what really goes on in YOUR game.


Your best server has been slightly fudged up by the fact of folks wishing to get something better than all +12 items, a weapon with incredible stats, and loads of items that are one of a kind, and the only thing better is real money, that's right, folks don't need anything else in the game, so they get a fool willing to pay real cash (USD) for game generated graphics, that is the DUMBEST thing i have ever known on graal, you deserve to get globally banned for selling USD, and you deserve to get banned for buying the garbage in the first place because your promoting that kind of DUMB behavior and encourage others to do it too.



That being said, someone needs to deal with this, and now.

Sorry that I spend most of my time that isn't consumed by my social life or academic life working. Alchemy(and other things) really didn't make itself. I mean, it would be amazing if things just MADE THEMSELF, I mean, then people wouldn't have to even bother looking at the good things people have done before they BLINDLY bash others :D. Also, put control on things? I'm not a GM, my powers are limited to uploading content when it's made(and my powers are extremely limited there) and restoring things. Before you go and blindly bash people, why don't you sit back and think about the situation first? I mean, you were given a brain, I would hope that you would use it.

Quoted for truthfulness. 90% of the people who play SUCK. For every honest person there are 20 lying, deceitful jackasses who care about no one but themselves. It's hard to work on a server when the people who seem to play WANT to unbalance every little aspect of it and exploit every little thing just for their own personal gain. Then, the staff have to somehow be omnipotent and be able to magically tell who is lying and who is not! And when we figure out someone is lying they harass us to no ends and when we don't cave in I guess we get called "corrupt" and more rumors get spread :D.

Ever since I fled to Final Fantasy XI I have felt better about online gaming. I have actually seen that people can treat others with kindness. I have also seen a well structured and maintained game that is "groomed" monthly and has staff who are helpful and most importantly kind and welcoming. People who open their arms rather than clench their fists. It was like an entirely new experience. The only reason I come back here from time to time is to check up on my friends. I would never abandon them. I know Stefan and Unix really try hard and work their butts off, but unfortunately its just not enough. Corruption and disorder take too much time to deal with. The staffmembers on most playerworlds are so young and inexperienced with handling such dillemas and problems, most of the people here on the forums don't know how to react properly to different opinions and therefor lash out and make other players feel bad and angry, fights break out and people are left banned or unsatisfied. The game has come a long way...those who have stayed have seen many things and many people. Those who are new have felt the verbal slap in the face. Apathy and Anger flow through the veins of many, however there are those who are kind and gentle, and I honor them and give them credit for their patience. If you disagree with me that is your opinion and I honor that. I just ask that you honor mine as well.

What I don't get is.. how can people who are barely on.. I mean they sign on for a hour every two days, they are high level, which means more exp per level is needed, can level faster then someone who is on every day for 8 hours a day and is half their level.. while that lower level it takes long time, weeks, to just level 1 level.. while someone twice their level it only takes 1 day to level 2 or more levels.. That isn't right.. And especialy those people do not buy brutals from people who actualy get them.. I haven't ever seen Zoe or Wren.. ever.. in the Trading room in the past 3 months. But yet they got brutals and Zoe never ran out of brutals and practicaly lived in Hiratha.. Funny how they all ended up there.. And that doesn't end there.. suddenly this new account..dark_sakura, 40 hours .. level 27 already with items that takes months for someone like me to get..and enough WC to pk people in the 90 level. and who knows what else.. Hanging out with Zoe.. What a coincidence.. And that person TOO doesn't run out of brutals... Either Zoe and all her little gang of misfits hack.. or someone whos a friend and staff are giving them items and brutals.
I am totaly sick of this. If you are going to help a small group of people by supplying them with free things why not help everyone in the process.

And before others defent themselves and post "oh they like me and gave me good items" that's a load of BS, I used to be one of the nicer people on GK, up untill i decided to help myself for a change and not everyone else.


then i'm suddenly a power greedy bish that only wants leet items? hell no, EVERYONE wants better items it's just that when i didn't make time to help a few lazy good for nothings i get totally bashed for it.


as great a person as i made myself i NEVER got that powerful that fast, level what with 40 hours????? you have inside help pal. =/

Whatever Dark Sakura has or doesn't have is no concern of mine. I have neither the time nor circumstance to delve into who has what or who doesn't have.

Your accusations are quite false. It is amazing to me that each person who reaches a high or higher level than others is accused of cheating always. I remember that is why Tec finally quit the game because he was tired of the false accusations.

Somehow, I cannot wait for others to reach the higher levels - especially those who spend their time accusing. Beware though, there are always those beneath you ready to accuse you. Brace yourself!

Zoe

*sigh* Once again, the drama continues folks!
Eh, are you on 24/7 to check if they ever been to trading room? I don't think so, unless Graal has really consumed your life. o.o You haven't heard of 'friends' giving their friends gifts? Obviously not. What, I see Nayoko mostly at Hirthia, and so MANY other people as well, some restock the shops, some have heaps of maps around that area, who knows.
You seem to bash at Zoe and Wren in particular, maybe because they don't play as much as you do. (called having a life) And when someone new comes along to kick your ass, you assume its them! Personal grudge here?

AGAIN, haven't you heard of friends giving gifts to their friends or even 'item borrowing'. It does not mean if you're a high level you're the strongest. Actually I'm friends with that sakura acct. How come I don't get blamed for anything? Wowowow you see her hang around with Zoe, OMG LIKE FREEBIES PLZ. Eh I don't think so. You're getting yourself worked up for no reason, you just sound like a whiner to me.
It somehow seems to me, you're personally bashing at Zoe, and just a tad bit of jelousy. ^^

EDIT:Forgot to add, you're on about being nice and all, what was that attempt of making the 'Anti-Sagesun' guild? :rolleyes:

No ****, man.

In the words of gunnery seargent hartman: "Well...no ****!"

LIEK OMAGAD NO SHT 1CE AGEN1!1!1!!!
And since there are only about 70-80 (gold account) players on GK, that makes, what, 4 honest people? Lel. I'd think of myself as one of the four, yo ;)

It's to easy to preach from the pulpit.

Yay, let's bash GK and eachother =D

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Originally Posted by foxyrain Your accusations are quite false. It is amazing to me that each person who reaches a high or higher level than others is accused of cheating always. I remember that is why Tec finally quit the game because he was tired of the false accusations. Zoe

The real reason Tec doesn't play anymore is because person who bought him his account took it back. :frown:

You see me mostly in hirathia because that is where you are, that is where you live. It doesn't take a scientist to see that a select few are getting free brutals which just so happen to be in same spot *cough* stacked *cough*.
As a player who has played for year and half on this server, I know how long it takes to get maps to level. I also know how long it takes to find brutals in maps too. When certain people try to pass thier maps as "gifts from friends" and they all happen to be right there in hirathia it raises suspicions to where they are really getting the brutal maps.

As far as personal grudge, they attack me everytime they see me. Seems like shoe is on other foot. Stop making accusations about me to try to take the heat of yourselves. You all have a habit of doing that a lot these days. :\

Not really Nayoko :] I don't live there, I live in a house on Zormite Island. it doesn't take a 'scientist' to move their mouse arrow over the Hirithia to see whos there. Duh? Yeah '*cough* stacked *cough*' back to you mam. ^^

As a player also playing year and a half, I know how long it takes too. You know everyone is different, some players are good at finding maps, cause their charecter has high luck. Therefore, the players who are unlucky, whine and cry irl about it, if they can't take it.

I wonder why they always attack you Nayoko. To me, the whole server seems to hate you. What accusations am I making? I just have a habit and urge to kill everytime I see you. You seem to make up these stories, and spread them around and THEN TRULY believe it yourself. You know what I realised, if someone attacks you and you lose, you whine and say it's 'haressment' and if they are a higher level than you, you complain about their level YET if you got into a fight with a lower level and you defeat them, you don't complain, or say a word. But if a lower level beat you, you're always like 'SKLJFKLSJF LAME PLZ AND OMG THEY MUST CHEAT!!'

It's not just higher level. Nayoko complains when I kill her too ahahahah

LOL :cool:

I attack (and i mean verbal, since i dont have LEET GEER ONEONEONEONE) her solely because of samurai and because she seems to be generally dense.

PS, most of the **** that goes on in traderooms is what i'd call harassment, yo. Or it used to be, anyway, things are a bit quieter now that people are too busy playing the game with their paypal accounts.

WHAT YOU SAY!

Of course I don't like aki, zoe, or wren any better then Nayoko. I hate you all. Meh, I can't hit any of the other ones then nayoko. Well I can barely hit anyone now that I, ahem, "Gave away" my items.

To bypass the meandering subject, I'll just say it.

IT TOOK YOU THIS DAMN LONG TO FIGURE IT OUT?! I SHOULD SLAP YOU FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK YOU TO COME TO THIS.

If you're referring to the fact that i called you corrupt, i really hope your not trying to call me a liar, because i will show evidence if you continue to deny what you are, and that my friend, is corrupt.

See, Jagen, why are you trying to insult me?, did i insult you?, no. I simply stated obvious observations. Your excuse about having to do Alchemy is no excuse at all. How about instead of making new things, you update and fix old ones. Besides, i simply stated that the server has no control, so how does that have to do with the making of the new Alchemy? Rules are suppose to be enforced from day 1 that a server is released, not suddenly after you notice the crap job that you've done after year(s) of the server being released. Obviously, you have to do other things, but how about you make sure everything CURRENTLY is fully functional, no loop holes, and that the players are HAPPY. Your use of "smiles" or "emotions" really dont phaze me at all. Any comment you make i can clearly send it back to you, oh, and it wont be sent back with false statements. It would be sent back with the facts, and like they say..."the truth hurts". How about you take your own advice, and before trying to bash me, why dont you check out how GK currently is yourself. Of course, you would have to do that on an account where no one knows you and where you dont have access to use the createitem command you oh so love to use :whatever: .

Dont try to humiliate or insult others when you know your wrong. Your excuse is what all the other lazy bastards use, which is "sorry i dont spend all my time on the computer". All i read from that is "blah blah blah *insert excuse here* blah blah". There is absolutely no excuse. If you cant handle, then you arnt up for the job, and i dont care what you have to say about it, because thats the cold heart truth. You dont have time? Well, find time. I hardly see you on GK as it is. The time you use speaking with huru and aki, you could use to be improving the server. Why do i mention huru and aki? (nothing against them of course), well, simply because they seem to "magically" get items, and with that, i end my post.

EDIT:

*cough Has screenies of a certain staff *cough Jagen cough* using the magical createitem command, then summoning aki, and giving her 10 stacked brutals cough*

*cough I saw Jagen, Aki, and Wren doing brutals like crazy and they were all, just like you said, in Hirathia in the same exact spot each time cough*

*cough When i went inside one of them Jagen said he would leave Zormite (i was in Dustari so he couldnt kill me) and he was going to PK me with his sword which gives him 32032 damage, and i also have a screenie of his profile showing that amount of damage cough*

*cough i smell corruption in the air cough*

*Cough i have a cold Cough*

And I don't have to justify my actions to you :). I could really care less about you people stalk me and seem to take a screenshot of every single one of my actions. In fact, I find it quite humorous and pathetic.

I didn't bash you :D Certainly someone who speaks as if their opinions can't possibly be wrong should be able interpret my postcorrectly?

Again, Think -> Post. I don't have access or rights to fix half of the problems so please don't play the point the finger game. And please stop attacking me like that, you're getting close to harassment.

Again, Think -> Post. I don't have access to make sure everything is in working order. Also, forgive me that I'm not omnipotent, do you know anything about programming? If you did you would know how hard it is to make something this complex that is bug free. There will always be bugs, loop holes, and exploits.

Grats, Wanna cookie?

I guess not everyone has the unique ability that you do. It must be amazing to be able to post things that are only the indefinite truth :).

Again, these personal attacks are pretty close to harassmnet..

Harrassment:
To irritate or torment persistently.


As you can see, i only posted once, meaning im not harrassing and its not close to it. Please, learn your definitions before you decide to use specific words.

How are we (us players) suppose to know what rights you have? You're using the fact that you dont have the rights as an excuse, well, that isnt an excuse at all. First reason, is that us players dont know what rights you have, so your comment about your rights is irrelevant to what im exclaiming. Secondly, you dont need to have every right to do anything. You can simply do things, then submit them to Stefan so he can upload. If you need a level right, then have Stefan give you rights to it, or have him send you the level, you work on it, then you send it back and he uploads. Saying that you dont have enough rights to fix things like bugs or errors or to improve a few things is NEVER AN ISSUE. How do you think normal servers are handled?, what, you actually think everyone gets level 4 rc? Personally, from what you say, you're taking the lazy way out of it. There is no excuse at all, so stop randomly choosing some.

"Where theres a will, theres a way."

Remember that.

What items? If there was anything at all, it's either gone or taken away now. If you're talking about brutals, I didn't get those from Jagen, nor any staff. If you want to know, go find out for yourself or ask "nay", she knows pretty well. Stacked ones been floating around the server before I even came back to Graal, and I certainly know a whole LIST of people who has them, names would not be mentioned though. *cough real cold cough* All my gear I had before I quit basically. With the exception of items being EAed or other gear that I traded or received from friend <3 ana.. gloves of Marks/helm I had before quitting. RDA i won like 2 years ago. It's blah enough that jagen uses createitem in the public sometimes to either 1)make stuff for who knows what 2) restoring and I happen to be there, so people go and take screenshots and then we both get framed. *sigh*

I wish you wouldn't be telling him what to do with his time. His life isn't bound to graal >_> Staff like Lance/Ben/Jagen, they don't even get paid, yet they still stay even though they have to deal with slander and disatisfaction from people. If you're dying to see some change, join debug or something, that's the best way to have your voice and ideas heard.

Do you know ANYTHING about the 2k2 system? It is NOT a normal system with NPCs. There is a mudlib extention to the NPC Server that handles all the stats, item managements, player accounts, and a lot more. It is obviously not coded in graal script. I do not have access to the source. Therefore, there are no "rights" to give. Stefan is also rather busy latel. Therefore, there is no one to fix the bugs. Do you see the pattern?

You obviously don't know what rights I have. However, that doesn't excuse you from blindly accusing me of doing nothing. You do not have access to debug. You do not know what goes on. You do not have ANY right to make ANY assumptions. You do not know what I do when I'm on RC. Stop acting like you magically know everything.

I do know that you and Malinko are talking trash about me right now on Debug RC.And yes, I know i dont have access to Debug, Jon. I'm not accusing you of not doing anything, im saying that GK isnt being controled properly and everything is ran poorly. I dont know what rights you have, and i dont care. But, if you really cared about GK, then you could speak with Stefan or leave him a note to improve on a few things.

And that is relavent, how? We were only discussing your scripts, which have absolutely no relavence to this topic. Tell whoever is leaking you logs to stop or Nay-I mean, their access could be terminated :)

We do tell Stefan to fix bugs, more often than not he is too busy to actually fix them. Please stop accusing me of things.

Actually, Malinko himself admitted he was talking trash. This has nothing to do with "Nay". Looks like you're accusing people also, Jon. How about you stop complaining about being accused when infact you're accusing yourself. Oh, and i wasnt accusing you of anything in that post, so instead of saying the same thing each post, why dont you just think of something else to post or dont post at all.

Oh, and to the comment where you laugh at the fact that people take screenies of you being corrupt, well, guess what, we laugh at you also. Im sure Stefan would have a good laugh if he saw the screenies, then again, he might actually take the issue more seriously then you think it is?

i must say that was in retialition of craigus' 'Anti-Nay' guild. i saw that both and neither one got put through.


the person grudges have gone on for too long now. but like always they will continue. simply put. the origin of stacked brutals is a mystery. we have all heard tales of where they originated from....mostly beginnign with staff one in particular who i dont think is guilty of such acts. there are also told tales of anu supplying people with them from when he was EM with item create. the fact of the matter is. until there are logs no one really knows. we have all used stacked bruatls (myself included) but some people do get more then others. it would be a lie to say that you are not using stacked brutals anyone on this game that is above lvl 45 or so simply because everyone else is a reflection of this game. everyone plays as much as everyone else and there is that 'one' who cant get a nything and his level reflects it. its a matter of how you carry yourself. there are people i know who have stacked brutals that dont pk. there level is growing but they dont pk so they are not targetted in such threads as this one.

as far as items and so forth. all items are created. they dont just pop out of no where. some one is making them rather it be a hacker. staff. or one of tose all famous dupers. someone is just always more fortunate then others. same with USDing. although illegal USD is still done which puts people of younger ages (or people that just refuse to spend real money on a game) at a disadvantage as well. im still for a reset of kingdoms. naturally all players would be sad. especially the higher levels ones but i remember when GK made the transition from Graal 2002 Alpha and players were all week. it was alot more fun. there were alot more RP events such as wars and alot less PKing.

and just for the record i have seen Wren Aki nd Zoe all do low level maps on occasions although u see them in brutals most frequnet =X. me myself dont even do maps below between. i dont even do immenes anymore. but ya. GK is having balancing issues and it will continue to be that way til there is a reset. or until a level cap is put on and people cant get stronger then a certain point that way everyone can feel as though they have a cahcne to catch up to the higher level peopole. or until people work harder to get stronger. i came back to GK like 5 days ago. almost 6 now. back at lvl 20 phys. now im lvl 29 =X. i have goals and mind and i plan to set them. (mainly because i worship brigid and it puts me at an already disadvantage because i cant wield weapons. PS.[i t hink brigid worshippers should be able to wield weapons when they become strong enough to get her gloves. just an opinion])

but ya. hopefully alchemy coming out tomorrow will put people where they want to be. i know if i learn some essential recipes i will create and sell. im not gonna say its going to be cheap. but it will be affordable =D

and once again with another post. im sorry these are so long but i have been playing graal for longer then any of the people involved in this. the way i see it is. i just hit lvl 60 this morning. grant it i dont level all the time because when im on i usually try to socially to keep the game friendly. but it does take long to level unless u prepare and have the proper supplies. there are some amazing things going on like the dark sakura girl (nothing against her because she is definately working it out with the leveling :redface: ) but she has gained her levels quickly. and she is always outside of hirathia. her purpose i dont know im ot going to accuse her of anything :rolleyes: because when i go there sometimes she normally says how she has to run to another map location and i quote "you are really lucky or something because my maps are all over" that was in response to me saying how i had a few. (4 to be exact) brutals in hirathia. naturally everytime i came out the map she was still in hirathia below the planting pit :redface: . but once again im not pointing no fingers. its just a matter of life. sakura did say she was borrowing Huru's marks. and borrowing items has never been a sin. everytime i come back (except for htis last time) i find myself borrowing items to get back onto my feet. and Sakura also said this isnt her first account and i definately know about getting items transferred over (without staff help) ;) because i have had to do it myself. now as far as being someone else which she is often accused of its quite possible. but no one will be able to find out because some people are blessed to have a proxy ip address (which i need myself cause hackers are scareh! x_x )


now as far as gambet. i must agree that before alot of new things are added the old things should be completed....HINCE ALCHEMY. alchemy has been here forever. it is not nothing new. it is old. older then gods older then alot of things. u were around for random alchemy. when they took that away i almost cried =(. [off topic: my house died in samurai with all my random alchemy items. which it didnt cause now pmop sell for like uber items and i had 3 in my house and a couple of scale mails as well as two mithrils (one which actually sold for plat)] that was back during boukon ages if anyone remember that time period when my house was lost. but ya. alchemy is done. hopefully the next Old thing to be completed will be gods. but that is just wishful thinking because brigid is missing most of her spells and her resistances dont work and so forth. but ya. u know im not going to get into that.

but ya i do think. they could stand to have a few more admins on GK. because Jagen and Ben are there by themselves and both of them have alot to do as far as scripting. maybe they shouldnt even be like an admin. maybe more of a person like customer server. or human resources. that specifies on some of the topics at hand in this thread. such as harrassment. lost items. restoration of items and creation of iteems. it seems logical. someone to take the stress off of staffs hands simply because they have so much to do already. but on that same note. that would be alot cause i could imagine the power falling into the wrong hands. becoming an issue of extreme proportions. more items on the server and so forth. but that is more so an issue for stefan. i suggested something similar before to him on GK itself and he said it was a good idea but it never was followed up on and when ever u pm him he hits with the "Forum PM me please." which is another reason on its on to have like a human resource position on here. i couldnt imagine. alot less stressful. simply because when someone was scammed they could get to the bottom of it quickly and efficiently. NPC ate an item. bam they are right there to prove it and help you out. he he he. i like the sound of the person already. (thats just an idea for all you staff0rz on GK.)

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