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Short_Blade 09-10-2002 07:47 AM
Graal 2001
 
What I would like to see on Graal2001.

1) Remove the HP System.
2) Bring back PKing for Gralat.
3) Remove some of the anti scaming.
4) The new bomy gen to hurry up or bring back gen2
5) Remove the morpher it makes it pointless to pick races at the begining and things being seperate for bomy/human
6)New hats stop restocking old ones.
7) Diffrent Kinds of Jobs. Instead of just using D why dont u make it combinations like DAD or DDAADD or something.. Get creative.
8)Stop Neglecting 2k1.
9) The managers to show up more.. And work harder.

I want peoples views on these things. I know I here Stefan says No about HP System. But I am sure if we got enough votes on geting rid of it that he would relize that no body likes it besides a certain few and he would get rid of it.


\/i\/i -Novice-(Events Team)

magicbud3344 09-10-2002 08:50 AM
AND WHAT GENO WANTS FOR GRAAL 2001!!!!!11
if a smrt person *myself :cool: * or any of you average joes make a big guild like VV or NBK or anything, and it gets big liek we could have hangouts on 2k1 made by teh pro lats or by you as long as they are not crap, and then we cuold have PK wars :O
and taht would be fun fun fun
oh yeah by teh way "Libium" :O XD :P

ZanderX 09-10-2002 09:03 AM
Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Short_Blade
What I would like to see on Graal2001.

1) Remove the HP System.
2) Bring back PKing for Gralat.
3) Remove some of the anti scaming.
4) The new bomy gen to hurry up or bring back gen2
5) Remove the morpher it makes it pointless to pick races at the begining and things being seperate for bomy/human
6)New hats stop restocking old ones.
7) Diffrent Kinds of Jobs. Instead of just using D why dont u make it combinations like DAD or DDAADD or something.. Get creative.
8)Stop Neglecting 2k1.
9) The managers to show up more.. And work harder.

I want peoples views on these things. I know I here Stefan says No about HP System. But I am sure if we got enough votes on geting rid of it that he would relize that no body likes it besides a certain few and he would get rid of it.


\/i\/i -Novice-(Events Team)
1) Can't do that; Stefan's authority is greater than mine. We already had a number of polls with almost a hundred votes a piece; no go.
2) Uh, it's already back, last I checked.
3) Why? So some people can be miserable again?
4) Gen3 stays until gen4 is finished or we (staff) as a collective make the decision to simply optimize the gen2 script.
5)Taken into consideration.
6) "restocking" won't matter much, hats are going to be free.
7) There are more jobs in progress, they're just moving a bit slowly.
8) We're not, you should stop being a jerk.
9) See above; you need to learn what a Manager does before you bash Rabid and I.

gokux33 09-10-2002 09:16 AM
Yeah, I agree that the MANAGERS SHOULD BE ON MORE.

Duo 09-10-2002 09:20 AM
Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX



6) "restocking" won't matter much, hats are going to be free.
7) There are more jobs in progress, they're just moving a bit slowly.
whats the point of a job if your going to kill the economy, the only thing that keeps 2k1 distinct from the crappy playerworlds with an average of 20 people on

Googi 09-10-2002 09:21 AM
No, Kamuii should stay off of Graal2001 as much as possible, damage is minimized that way.

gokux33 09-10-2002 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Googi
No, Kamuii should stay off of Graal2001 as much as possible, damage is minimized that way.
Yeah, but then I can't bug him for a Level Maker job. ^^;

Gangster88 09-10-2002 09:28 AM
Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


6) "restocking" won't matter much, hats are going to be free.
Like omi is that true, alot of people are going to be pissed lol. Some people got like 50+ hats.

SaitoHajime 09-10-2002 09:40 AM
Hats being free? Hats are/were half the fun of 2k1. Trading hats with other people, attempting to collect them, buying and selling them. It was great, becuase it was a great way to make easy money. Buy low, sell high. But making them free? I have this to say, Kamuii. :O

RichKevin 09-10-2002 09:41 AM
If hats are going to be free, which most of the economy is based on.. we will have no economy, all ppl will want is bomies....
Just reset and start all over ... Turn the Clock back a year when 2k1 was good

zell12 09-10-2002 09:43 AM
We cannot reset, how many times do we have to tell you people this as well, Stefan stopped kamuii from reseting everything....

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 09-10-2002 09:46 AM
hats free?! YES

I just hope you can put hats on others heads now :D

MY GOD could it be..2k1 ACTUALLY BEING FUN?!


I also want a reset.

ZanderX 09-10-2002 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by SaitoHajime
Hats being free? Hats are/were half the fun of 2k1. Trading hats with other people, attempting to collect them, buying and selling them. It was great, becuase it was a great way to make easy money. Buy low, sell high. But making them free? I have this to say, Kamuii. :O
There'll be new, different collectible items. :D

Dude6252000 09-10-2002 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


There'll be new, different collectible items. :D
If you can put it on your head, and we get refunds from ALL the hats we bought, okay. But otherwise, no. Just, no. 2001, the main part of it is hats. I'm getting mad about this. I rarely get mad.. Taking away hats to buy, would fix the economy, because IT WOULDN'T EXIST. -_-

Flamingblaze 09-10-2002 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Dude6252000

If you can put it on your head, and we get refunds from ALL the hats we bought, okay. But otherwise, no. Just, no. 2001, the main part of it is hats. I'm getting mad about this. I rarely get mad.. Taking away hats to buy, would fix the economy, because IT WOULDN'T EXIST. -_-
Well how about we go on a killing spree? We could ritualistically kill them.

ZanderX 09-10-2002 09:59 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Dude6252000

If you can put it on your head, and we get refunds from ALL the hats we bought, okay. But otherwise, no. Just, no. 2001, the main part of it is hats. I'm getting mad about this. I rarely get mad.. Taking away hats to buy, would fix the economy, because IT WOULDN'T EXIST. -_-
There'll be lots of refunds, yes. ^^;

Not exact number counts, but set numbers depending on how many hats you had.

gokux33 09-10-2002 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


There'll be lots of refunds, yes. ^^;

Not exact number counts, but set numbers depending on how many hats you had.
I best be getting some money for my Ivory. :(

SaitoHajime 09-10-2002 10:49 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


There'll be new, different collectible items. :D
While I keep my comment at ":O", I am interested in these new collectible items :D

Gangster88 09-10-2002 07:16 PM
WOO i got only one hat like free hats :)

Loriel 09-10-2002 07:23 PM
Re: Graal 2001
 
1) Remove the HP System.
No. Go play classic.
2) Bring back PKing for Gralat.
Did already.
3) Remove some of the anti scaming.
Perhaps you would like this, but hard working players would not.
4) The new bomy gen to hurry up or bring back gen2
Stefan does not want Database NPC bomies because they take up very much resources.
5) Remove the morpher it makes it pointless to pick races at the begining and things being seperate for bomy/human
I agree.
6)New hats stop restocking old ones.
No. But restock the old ones slower, perhaps?
7) Diffrent Kinds of Jobs. Instead of just using D why dont u make it combinations like DAD or DDAADD or something.. Get creative.
Rather some jobs where you have to do something different, and not pressing key combinations. I think cow melking was quite innovative, and if I wasn't so lazy, I would work on Deliveries.
8)Stop Neglecting 2k1.
Exactly.
9) The managers to show up more. And work harder.
True.

Dude6252000 09-10-2002 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


There'll be lots of refunds, yes. ^^;

Not exact number counts, but set numbers depending on how many hats you had.
Now I'm happy <3 I was mainly mad because I just bought a red HUD for my bomy right when you announced this, and I was like "ONO I JUST GAVE AWAY MY BOMY FOR FREE" o.o Refunds are my friendss.

bumpertobumper 09-11-2002 12:53 AM
hat refunds
 
this should prove very interesting, the last i looked i believe i had over 200 hats.

neo_the_swordsman 09-11-2002 03:05 AM
Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Short_Blade
What I would like to see on Graal2001.

1) Remove the HP System.
2) Bring back PKing for Gralat.
3) Remove some of the anti scaming.
4) The new bomy gen to hurry up or bring back gen2
5) Remove the morpher it makes it pointless to pick races at the begining and things being seperate for bomy/human
6)New hats stop restocking old ones.
7) Diffrent Kinds of Jobs. Instead of just using D why dont u make it combinations like DAD or DDAADD or something.. Get creative.
8)Stop Neglecting 2k1.
9) The managers to show up more.. And work harder.

I want peoples views on these things. I know I here Stefan says No about HP System. But I am sure if we got enough votes on geting rid of it that he would relize that no body likes it besides a certain few and he would get rid of it.


\/i\/i -Novice-(Events Team)
I agree with nine except they work enought but arent online as much or at all.

Gangster88 09-11-2002 03:06 AM
Re: hat refunds
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bumpertobumper
this should prove very interesting, the last i looked i believe i had over 200 hats.
Corpse you crazy guy :) J/k

magicbud3344 09-11-2002 09:43 AM
i ahve all 3 huds..i hope taht rakes in some cash

Googi 09-11-2002 10:12 AM
Stefan didn't let you remove his Bodies or HP system, why would he let you remove his hat system?

TrueHeaT 09-11-2002 10:15 AM
Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Short_Blade
What I would like to see on Graal2001.

1) Remove the HP System.
3) Remove some of the anti scaming.
4) The new bomy gen to hurry up or bring back gen2
5) Remove the morpher it makes it pointless to pick races at the begining and things being seperate for bomy/human
6)New hats stop restocking old ones.
I like you a lot and I agree very much
Especially with the bringing back Gen2

Bomys aren't good unless they're lying around every level, occassionally getting up to wander. Also, the programmable bomys was brilliant fun.

ZanderX 09-11-2002 10:20 AM
Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by TrueHeaT

Bomys aren't good unless they're lying around every level, occassionally getting up to wander. Also, the programmable bomys was brilliant fun.
Yeah, but as it's been said, it caused tons of database NPC lag. :( That's why gen3 was made. Which is exactly why I'm trying to get staff working on gen4 again, which would essentially be the best features of gen3 (pretty much riding, low dbNPC lag and the graphical interface) with all the great stuff of gen2, like programmability, etc...

Googi 09-11-2002 10:22 AM
Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


Yeah, but as it's been said, it caused tons of database NPC lag. :( That's why gen3 was made. Which is exactly why I'm trying to get staff working on gen4 again, which would essentially be the best features of gen3 (pretty much riding, low dbNPC lag and the graphical interface) with all the great stuff of gen2, like programmability, etc...
You need Antago ;)

ZanderX 09-11-2002 10:23 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Googi


You need Antago ;)
No, no, I don't, actually.

TrueHeaT 09-11-2002 10:25 AM
Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


Yeah, but as it's been said, it caused tons of database NPC lag. :( That's why gen3 was made. Which is exactly why I'm trying to get staff working on gen4 again, which would essentially be the best features of gen3 (pretty much riding, low dbNPC lag and the graphical interface) with all the great stuff of gen2, like programmability, etc...
i don't give a damn
graal is a shitty programmed game
if stefan can't make a a game where a small userbase with painfully simple little virtual pets exists relatively lag free, then he shouldn't make any money off the game

there are other online games that thousands of people play at once
if g2k1, which has like 40 players can't have simple programmable bomys that walk around or even just sit there, then that's sad and so is graal

ZanderX 09-11-2002 10:31 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by TrueHeaT


i don't give a damn
graal is a shitty programmed game
if stefan can't make a a game where a small userbase with painfully simple little virtual pets exists relatively lag free, then he shouldn't make any money off the game

there are other online games that thousands of people play at once
if g2k1, which has like 40 players can't have simple programmable bomys that walk around or even just sit there, then that's sad and so is graal
Then don't play and stop ****ing whining, dude. If you think it's so pathetic then why do you ***** about it? :\ I don't really understand. I'm sorry, but it's been said by me and others from management in the past (Stefan included) that gen2, by itself, will NOT be back.

TrueHeaT 09-11-2002 10:34 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


Then don't play
it's pretty obvious that I don't
I'm just saying that it's sad that Graal can't handle some simple little bomys in a 2d environment

there are 3d mmorpgs that have like thousands of people online, but graal can't have any simple little bomys
great coding or database or whatever stefan

ZanderX 09-11-2002 10:35 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by TrueHeaT


it's pretty obvious that I don't
I'm just saying that it's sad that Graal can't handle some simple little bomys in a 2d environment

there are 3d mmorpgs that have like thousands of people online, but graal can't have any simple little bomys
great coding or database or whatever stefan
A) This isn't a 3d mmorpg :\
B) This isn't a multimillion dollar funded project with dozens of high end developers.

:\

TrueHeaT 09-11-2002 10:36 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


A) This isn't a 3d mmorpg :\
that's my point.. 3d mmorpgs can have thousands of players but a simple 2d mmorpg with 40 players on one server can't handle bomys

it's freaking sad
i think the entire game should be reprogrammed or something so it isn't a slow, evil memory hog that can't handle simple pets

Flamingblaze 09-11-2002 10:50 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by TrueHeaT


that's my point.. 3d mmorpgs can have thousands of players but a simple 2d mmorpg with 40 players on one server can't handle bomys

it's freaking sad
i think the entire game should be reprogrammed or something so it isn't a slow, evil memory hog that can't handle simple pets
Just an idiot's input, might it be because not all graphics are installed immediately like on those other games? Those other games are like....gigabytes in size, graal is maybe 300 mb with all the webgifs and stuff, maybe if some things were like programmed to run off the game that is installed on the computer, instead of off the server, they would work better?

TrueHeaT 09-11-2002 10:55 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Flamingblaze
Just an idiot's input, might it be because not all graphics are installed immediately like on those other games? Those other games are like....gigabytes in size, graal is maybe 300 mb with all the webgifs and stuff, maybe if some things were like programmed to run off the game that is installed on the computer, instead of off the server, they would work better?
what does that have to do with anything?

Sparkplug 09-11-2002 10:59 AM
How about fix G2K1 by restoring Sparkplug when I got hit with a reset and was promised to be restored but never was

Minoc 09-11-2002 12:19 PM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


A) This isn't a 3d mmorpg :\
Better examples: Lineage and UO

Antago 09-11-2002 05:44 PM
Re: Re: Re: Graal 2001
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ZanderX


Yeah, but as it's been said, it caused tons of database NPC lag. :( That's why gen3 was made. Which is exactly why I'm trying to get staff working on gen4 again, which would essentially be the best features of gen3 (pretty much riding, low dbNPC lag and the graphical interface) with all the great stuff of gen2, like programmability, etc...
:( how boring :(
there are better things you can do with pets


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