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Dumdumdidi 08-07-2010 05:59 PM

Bushes/Shrubs
 
Did a bush/shrub that can be tiled in the tileset editor recently. Thought i'd post it up to gather some comments :)

Comes in summer, autumm, meadow,forest colours
Critique and Comment please, and no using without written permission
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8232/busheswip.png

cbk1994 08-07-2010 06:06 PM

They don't look like bushes. They look more like counters. I wouldn't have guessed they were bushes if you haven't said it.

Cloven 08-07-2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1591937)
They don't look like bushes.

From left-to-right, they look like blocks of compressed (moss, thatch, turf, yard clippings).

Over all it looks more like some sort of personal shading/texture exercise.

Elk 08-07-2010 06:26 PM

They totally fit with a modern themed server.

DustyPorViva 08-07-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1591946)
They totally fit with a modern themed server.

Well this is true...

Crono 08-07-2010 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1591946)
They totally fit with a modern themed server.

so true.

Shards-Of-Fate 08-07-2010 07:25 PM

They look really thick and really manicured. Which I mean, you might see out of a really expensive building. But honestly they need some more leaf definition.

Elk 08-07-2010 07:56 PM

Wait
Is this for Sims on Amiga?

Demisis_P2P 08-07-2010 11:27 PM

Probably shouldn't be perfectly rectangular.

Fulg0reSama 08-08-2010 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1591997)
Probably shouldn't be perfectly rectangular.

This is why along with the texture. I think one of those look like my lounge and sofa color wise, especially the texture.

Dumdumdidi 08-08-2010 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1591971)
Wait
Is this for Sims on Amiga?

Nope haha :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1591937)
They don't look like bushes. They look more like counters. I wouldn't have guessed they were bushes if you haven't said it.

Well i believe i didn't quite give the right word for it. its a shrubbery thats well maintained. Something you see in city gardens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1591997)
Probably shouldn't be perfectly rectangular.

http://pages.prodigy.net/kinkade.dav...-shrubbery.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate (Post 1591966)
They look really thick and really manicured. Which I mean, you might see out of a really expensive building. But honestly they need some more leaf definition.

Yeah they are supposed to be for a more city landscape. I'll work on the definition. :)
EDIT: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6177/bushdefined.png
Here's what i got so far, any suggestions?

FaLLChiLD 08-08-2010 11:00 AM

Looking less plain with some definition to it. Take off that emboss **** and do some pixel work though.

Demisis_P2P 08-08-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumdumdidi (Post 1592083)
EDIT: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6177/bushdefined.png
Here's what i got so far, any suggestions?

What does it look like tiled?

WanDaMan 08-08-2010 12:08 PM

Don't rotate it :)

Fulg0reSama 08-08-2010 08:16 PM

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6177/bushdefined.png

I agree with FallChild above, I also wonder how well this tiles together. But I do see more of a bush in this now than it was like before.

DustyPorViva 08-08-2010 09:09 PM

http://spriters-resource.com/gameboy...stlegarden.png

FaLLChiLD 08-08-2010 09:30 PM

sickest tiles to be created ^^

Dumdumdidi 08-09-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaLLChiLD (Post 1592092)
Looking less plain with some definition to it. Take off that emboss **** and do some pixel work though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1592093)
What does it look like tiled?

Bad. So i decided to remake it, removing the emboss on the way.
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9...shdefined2.png
Hows it now? i followed the picture dusty showed, theres now no clear line where the border was before.

Crow 08-09-2010 01:41 PM

Thing is, your's has an outline. There are no single leaves sticking out or anything like that. Which makes it look boring and undefined. And I don't think the color works well either.

Fulg0reSama 08-09-2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumdumdidi (Post 1592358)
Bad. So i decided to remake it, removing the emboss on the way.
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9...shdefined2.png
Hows it now? i followed the picture dusty showed, theres now no clear line where the border was before.

Now It really does look like a sofa.

Demisis_P2P 08-09-2010 11:11 PM

Whipped this up as an example of how I would go about it.
I started with black as my background color and added layers on top of that.
Each lighter color starts further up.

The top half of the hedge is just the bottom half flipped upwards and lightened a bit, mostly because I'm lazy.
Notice the 'w' and 'm' shapes circled in red. Ideally things that stand out like that would need to be touched up, because they're going to stand out even more when you tile the image.

Also notice how the back edge is rigged instead of being a straight line? Ideally the sides would have the same sort of shape but I didn't bother to make the sides. As for the bottom edge you could add some tufts of color there that match your server's grass tiles so that it blends in better.

http://i34.tinypic.com/11v193s.png

Dumdumdidi 08-10-2010 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1592470)
Also notice how the back edge is rigged instead of being a straight line? Ideally the sides would have the same sort of shape but I didn't bother to make the sides. As for the bottom edge you could add some tufts of color there that match your server's grass tiles so that it blends in better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1592367)
Thing is, your's has an outline. There are no single leaves sticking out or anything like that. Which makes it look boring and undefined. And I don't think the color works well either.

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1633/edgebush.png
K update!

James 08-10-2010 05:55 AM

looks better. still looks too "plasticy" if you get my drift.

FaLLChiLD 08-10-2010 11:32 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Still too much filtering for me. The image is maxed out in colors xD

edit: Quick color reduction/tweaking (6 colors, compared to full 256 used by OP)
Attachment 51478

Contrast is a little high, it's whatever. I think the problem is you're using filters to create detail causing it to have that 'plastic' effect mention in above post. Not even sure if this is intended for Graal/supposed to be pixel art (dunno if you mentioned so) but filters are a bad choice if you're trying to pixel.

Dumdumdidi 08-10-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaLLChiLD (Post 1592563)
Still too much filtering for me. The image is maxed out in colors xD
Contrast is a little high, it's whatever. I think the problem is you're using filters to create detail causing it to have that 'plastic' effect mention in above post. Not even sure if this is intended for Graal/supposed to be pixel art (dunno if you mentioned so) but filters are a bad choice if you're trying to pixel.

Thanks for the spot. :)
Reduced the amount of colours without overdoing the contrast. (I dont want too much contrast, since i might be doing this for a modern server.)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6071/lesscolours.png

All of them have around 9 colours now.

Dnegel 08-10-2010 07:38 PM

I like it, and the Autumn color looks lovely. <3

salesman 08-10-2010 07:51 PM

looks better, but unless you're brave enough to use layers (which have close to zero support), these won't work as tiles.

DustyPorViva 08-10-2010 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1592639)
looks better, but unless you're brave enough to use layers (which have close to zero support), these won't work as tiles.

Sure they will.

TheRuckus 08-11-2010 11:34 AM

They look like brackets.

Liberated 08-11-2010 12:09 PM

ever since this thread starter i kept thinking of this, i have to get it off my mind.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...jpg?1281521326

Fulg0reSama 08-11-2010 12:14 PM

Ni !

Liberated 08-11-2010 01:46 PM

To whoever neg-repped me, yeah you're right about the sig, sorry, fixed it.
But monty pyton isn't retarded :(.

ontopic: It's better with the smaller amount of colors, but it doesn't tile very nicely on the inside.

Dumdumdidi 08-11-2010 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1592817)
ontopic: It's better with the smaller amount of colors, but it doesn't tile very nicely on the inside.

quite aware of that, i'll try and redo it later to make it tile better.
thanks for the comments people. :)


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