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reaper 06-28-2001 06:55 PM

Whats the problem with Krakken being on RC, taking messages? Your saying that he cant be on and talk with his friends or take questions on it and help out generally... its just another median for witch he can do his job through and as for the AIM and ICQ comments, not everyone has ICQ and AIM and there are a lot of people that cant use either because of system conflicts. If Krakken or any admin is to be as efficient as possible then they should have all communication possibilities open for use or available use.
Saying that people only have RC to look good is an immature and puerile comment, RC is an advanced tool for staff members to do there job through and to make things more efficient.

~ÐarkReåper

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lyndzey8000
This is what I was going to do when Olorin had offered me the job but had it have it approved by Stefan:
Go on each PW about 10 minutes a day each. Make a list of the owner and co-owners of each server. Then I would ask each of them if they needed accounts. If they weren't on they could email me. But from what I heard, Mr.Bear decided I wouldn't do a good job because I had never had an RC on 2001 or Classic (although I have had RC on other PWs) and so Geovanie (Mr.Bear's friend) was hired and Krakken (Geovanie and Mr.Bear's friend) was hired and I (Enemy of Mr.Bear) was turned down.
Note:This is just what I heard

That is what I DO do. I do go through each playerworld but in a slightly different way!

I go on each playerworld AT THE SAME TIME as my Graal2001 RC is open.


Another point is, I know lyndzey would be good on the team and I am trying to get her on it. I was trying before this tread even started!

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smallballn13
make a server so everyone can get an RC and be cool

and on the server have nothing at all

Hahahaha! thats FUNNY!
At east it would stop all the moaners (Tybalt and Gameo) from, well... moaning!

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaper
Whats the problem with Krakken being on RC, taking messages? Your saying that he cant be on and talk with his friends or take questions on it and help out generally... its just another median for witch he can do his job through and as for the AIM and ICQ comments, not everyone has ICQ and AIM and there are a lot of people that cant use either because of system conflicts. If Krakken or any admin is to be as efficient as possible then they should have all communication possibilities open for use or available use.
Saying that people only have RC to look good is an immature and puerile comment, RC is an advanced tool for staff members to do there job through and to make things more efficient.

~ÐarkReåper

Hey, thanks man, I thought I was going to have to go and explain ALL the same things again to Tybalt and Gameo.

cds96 06-28-2001 09:45 PM

tybal and gameo are just sore losers and jelous

Total_Carnage 06-28-2001 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaper
what a load of cråp!
arguing whether the asst account admin should have his RC taken away because he massed warning players basically not to harass Emperor Zarnage…. Harassing is illegal on Graal anyway, so if anyone is going to be punished it should be the players that where harassing Emperor Zarnage
Krakken needs his RC to do his job so if he gets it taken away things will slow down yet again and im sure no1 wants that to happen

This is a trivial matter that doesnt need any attention!

~ÐarkReåper

exactly!


juztin890 06-28-2001 10:19 PM

Re: Should Krakken have his RC taken away?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JungleKid
look what the idiot Krakken just massed using his RC:

Mass message:
This is a Personal Message!

Look all you Graalians, Please leave Emperor Zarnage of the
Zormite empire ALONE! He is NOT a newbie and he is a GREAT
Emperor!

Respect him or I will be angry >=(


wow, this is really something pertaining to being accounts admin. Who is he to tell the players what to do?

If you read what Krakken said, he is asking players to leave the Emperor alone... He is not telling anyone anything....
You are saying he is so heh... you should just shaddup.


blah, i assume some people will be annoyed by this but heh i dont care. I wont be back on this forum for a while and probably wont read this thread so if u wanna say something to me, email it: [email protected]

ciao,
Juztin (TCN)

HiryuuX 06-28-2001 10:37 PM

Why make such a big deal out of a thing like this? He took off his RC tag to send the message so why should it be bad? Even if he hadn't taken the tag off it doesn't hurt anyone, he was trying to help Zarnage. Whenever someone makes the smallest mistake everyone jumps on him.

vergil 06-28-2001 10:39 PM

Human nature repeats itself.
We shall see :)

Archeon 06-28-2001 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vergil
Human nature repeats itself.
We shall see :)

YES, JUST LIKE IN SECRET OF MANA

YOU WILL BE CURIOUS AND PULL THE RUSTY SWORD OUT!!

Kaimetsu 06-28-2001 10:52 PM

I've got a great idea! Why don't we remove all admins, and have it so that the whole world is in chaos because there's nobody to solve the problems that players face! I'm sure the paying customer would LOVE that!

Look, Krakken does WAY more good than bad. We (and lots of people who he's helped) are way better off than we would be without him.

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
I've got a great idea! Why don't we remove all admins, and have it so that the whole world is in chaos because there's nobody to solve the problems that players face! I'm sure the paying customer would LOVE that!

Look, Krakken does WAY more good than bad. We (and lots of people who he's helped) are way better off than we would be without him.

Thanks Kai, Hehe I have a funny story.

Today me and Stefan were sorting out the RC's on NewMain and YOU had warp acces on ALL servers with the account Kaimetsu_TOT

Hahaha, someone screwed that account up! If you had upgraded it then!

Kaimetsu 06-28-2001 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001

Thanks Kai, Hehe I have a funny story.

Today me and Stefan were sorting out the RC's on NewMain and YOU had warp acces on ALL servers with the account Kaimetsu_TOT

Hahaha, someone screwed that account up! If you had upgraded it then!

Noooooooo! Such a wasted opportunity! All I would have to do is learn how to warp and bingo!

freddyfox 06-28-2001 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Noooooooo! Such a wasted opportunity! All I would have to do is learn how to warp and bingo!

Yep, a shame.

Slaktmaster 06-28-2001 11:26 PM

Weird how people can discuss stupid things for so long, I think no-one should be hated, flamed and fired for a one time mistake.
Hopefully he learnt from it so give him a bit more time! :mad:

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Noooooooo! Such a wasted opportunity! All I would have to do is learn how to warp and bingo!

Hahaha, warpto <x> <y> <levelname>

Gameo 06-28-2001 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001


Hahahaha! thats FUNNY!
At east it would stop all the moaners (Tybalt and Gameo) from, well... moaning!

and the other 38 people who know that you're a complete *****!

Kaimetsu 06-28-2001 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001


Hahaha, warpto <x> <y> <levelname>

Pff. Then I need to know loads of levelnames and stuff. Walking is quicker...

Kaimetsu 06-28-2001 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gameo


and the other 38 people who know that you're a complete *****!

Game, I don't really wanna start a war, but this kind of message is really quite childish.

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Pff. Then I need to know loads of levelnames and stuff. Walking is quicker...

OR

warpto <playeraccount>

Gameo 06-28-2001 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Game, I don't really wanna start a war, but this kind of message is really quite childish.

it's also quite childish how he is getting people who never post on the forums to come here and stick up for him
it's also quite childish how he mentioned people who moaned, and only quoted my name and trueheat's, failing to grasp the concept that we did not vote for him 40 times, there were 38 others.

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gameo


and the other 38 people who know that you're a complete *****!

*laughs at Gameo and continues with his life on Graal*

Gameo 06-28-2001 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001


*laughs at Gameo and continues with his life on Graal*

corrupt
you don't need to be on graal to read the webcp and answer emails
bye now!

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gameo


it's also quite childish how he is getting people who never post on the forums to come here and stick up for him
it's also quite childish how he mentioned people who moaned, and only quoted my name and trueheat's, failing to grasp the concept that we did not vote for him 40 times, there were 38 others.

#1) I have not asked ANYONE to come here!
#2) Those people may well have changed their mind!

Kaimetsu 06-28-2001 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gameo


it's also quite childish how he is getting people who never post on the forums to come here and stick up for him

Assumption.

Quote:

it's also quite childish how he mentioned people who moaned, and only quoted my name and trueheat's, failing to grasp the concept that we did not vote for him 40 times, there were 38 others.

You two weren't just casting your opinions. You were trying to change other peoples' too. Otherwise you would've just voted and be done with it. Besides, he said you were moaners. The people who vote and don't post can't be described in this way.

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gameo

corrupt
you don't need to be on graal to read the webcp and answer emails
bye now!

Well if you checked the WEBCP when you were an assistant you would know that there are hardly any posts there!

Each of which can be answed fairly quickly.

Gameo 06-28-2001 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Assumption.



You two weren't just casting your opinions. You were trying to change other peoples' too. Otherwise you would've just voted and be done with it. Besides, he said you were moaners. The people who vote and don't post can't be described in this way.

i am a moaner because i feel someone who's a complete idiot shouldn't hold a position on graal. especially one as important as the one he is holding?

oh dear god, i guess i am not allowed to express my opinion. if i do, i will be referred to as a moaner!

geovanie shouldn't be the accounts admin, lyndzey should be.
krakken should be working on some small playerworld as an faq member telling people how to find hearts, not holding a position that could destroy graal if the person who is holding it is not the brightest (which obviously krakken is not)

he pretended to be the real kraken, he hung around with vulgar disgusting people, he got krakken fired for putting an illegal npc in his house, and what about the "krakken bug"?

graal is absolutely corrupt. stefan should fire geovanie and krakken and hire professionals and pay them. this is a product, not a toy for a little unintelligent boy to play with. BYE

Krakken_2001 06-28-2001 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001


Well if you checked the WEBCP when you were an assistant you would know that there are hardly any posts there!

Each of which can be answed fairly quickly.

YEY only 40 more until I get an avatar =)

Gameo 06-28-2001 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001


Well if you checked the WEBCP when you were an assistant you would know that there are hardly any posts there!

Each of which can be answed fairly quickly.

IT DOESN'T MATTER
You're NOT supposed to be on RC at all if you're not doing work!
CORRUPT

Kaimetsu 06-29-2001 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gameo


i am a moaner because i feel someone who's a complete idiot shouldn't hold a position on graal. especially one as important as the one he is holding?

Read da words, hotshot. I didn't say you were a moaner, I said that the people who haven't posted can't be moaners and that's one very good reason why he didn't refer to them.

Quote:

oh dear god, i guess i am not allowed to express my opinion. if i do, i will be referred to as a moaner!
I think he called you that because you seem to get fanatical about these things. Expressing your opinion is clicking "yes." Making lots of posts saying mostly the same basic thing is arguably moaning.

Quote:

geovanie shouldn't be the accounts admin, lyndzey should be.
*shrugs*

I dunno, maybe you're right. I don't know either of them very well so I won't make an opinion.

Quote:

krakken should be working on some small playerworld as an faq member telling people how to find hearts, not holding a position that could destroy graal if the person who is holding it is not the brightest (which obviously krakken is not)
I don't think he claimed to be the most intelligent person on Graal, but he does his job. I'll wager he's helped more people than he's hindered.

As for being limited to FAQ, I should inform you that he can script and design levels rather well, so his skills aren't as poor as you seem to make out.

Quote:

he pretended to be the real kraken, he hung around with vulgar disgusting people, he got krakken fired for putting an illegal npc in his house, and what about the "krakken bug"?
There's no law against having friends who you dislike. As for the others, well, I have no counterargument because I don't know much about the situations. I do believe he has never set out to harm anybody, though. He's a good person.

Quote:

graal is absolutely corrupt. stefan should fire geovanie and krakken and hire professionals and pay them. this is a product, not a toy for a little unintelligent boy to play with. BYE
Unintelligent? You could say ineffective or unskilled or something because those would essentially be opinions. But unintelligent? What do you know about Krakken's IQ?

Hiring professionals would be good, though. But costly. Me!=businessman, so I wouldn't know if it'd be best for Graal in general.

Krakken_2001 06-29-2001 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gameo

i am a moaner because i feel someone who's a complete idiot shouldn't hold a position on graal. especially one as important as the one he is holding?

You have YET to put forward a VALID point on me!


Quote:


oh dear god, i guess i am not allowed to express my opinion. if i do, i will be referred to as a moaner!

Well you keep saying the same thing like "krakken should not be asst admin" when your opinion will clearly not help! You are a moaner because you persist in making the SAME points which we have already heared! I have not done anything to you yet you still persist in insulting me.


Quote:


geovanie shouldn't be the accounts admin, lyndzey should be.
krakken should be working on some small playerworld as an faq member telling people how to find hearts, not holding a position that could destroy graal if the person who is holding it is not the brightest (which obviously krakken is not)

Well thats your opinion yet your opinion does not go in this case! And why are you assuming I am not bright? I can see your literate but, come ON! You know NOTHING about my personal intelligence.


Quote:


he pretended to be the real kraken, he hung around with vulgar disgusting people, he got krakken fired for putting an illegal npc in his house, and what about the "krakken bug"?

I have never pretended to be Kraken. Who I hang around with is MY choice and you don't have the right to say they are "vulgar" and "disgusting"!

There was NO proof that I did that! The level passed through many hands before it was uploaded and you are assuming from what another person has said that it was true.


Quote:


graal is absolutely corrupt. stefan should fire geovanie and krakken and hire professionals and pay them. this is a product, not a toy for a little unintelligent boy to play with. BYE

Hmmm, How many people have said that? If it is corrupt why play?
Professionals? What makes you think thay would be better than I?
I have an IQ of some professional adults!

And there we go with the "unintelligent" stuff again!

Krakken_2001 06-29-2001 12:17 AM

Heh, Kai and I said basically the same thing!

Kaimetsu 06-29-2001 12:27 AM

Hah! But I said them quicker! ;)

Krakken_2001 06-29-2001 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Hah! But I said them quicker! ;)
=*( *cries*
Meanie =P

CarnEvol 06-29-2001 12:58 AM

KRAKKEN ABUSES RC!!!
I was driving the boat than he disconnected me so he could drive it! :(

Kaimetsu 06-29-2001 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarnEvol
KRAKKEN ABUSES RC!!!
I was driving the boat than he disconnected me so he could drive it! :(

...that's bad. Krakken, what say you?

juztin890 06-29-2001 01:43 AM

Lies!@


(Now its just a matter of time until some lamer gets all hypocritical and quotes my one word reply and adds the statement 'that is pointless'.)

Tybalt 06-29-2001 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarnEvol
KRAKKEN ABUSES RC!!!
I was driving the boat than he disconnected me so he could drive it! :(

Damnit, now he should REALLY lose his RC.

Krakken_2001 06-29-2001 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juztin890
Lies!@


(Now its just a matter of time until some lamer gets all hypocritical and quotes my one word reply and adds the statement 'that is pointless'.)

Umm... like I already told him... that was'nt me! check the RC log!

Kaimetsu 06-29-2001 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tybalt


Damnit, now he should REALLY lose his RC.

Assuming he's telling the truth, I might agree with you...


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