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Kaimetsu 06-23-2003 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
13. If a flamewar insues, this does not give you the right to take part in it, and
persistent offenders will be punished.

And yet I'm sure you'd yell corruption if I punished you for it :)

Darlene159 06-23-2003 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


And yet I'm sure you'd yell corruption if I punished you for it :)

Actually, no I wouldnt...it would show that you were actually doing your job
It is pretty sad when a supermod is too busy breaking the rules to enforce them....but anyway, you can get your last word in, but I am done with this crappy thread

Kaimetsu 06-23-2003 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
Actually, no I wouldnt...it would show that you were actually doing your job
Oh? I'll remember that :)

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It is pretty sad when a supermod is too busy breaking the rules to enforce them....
As sad as it is that a 40+ server owner feels the need to constantly pick fights with players less than half her age? I have no trouble finding time to enforce the rules. Are you going to argue that I never do anything good as supermod?

Darlene159 06-23-2003 04:51 PM

37 year old server Manager

Milkdude99 06-23-2003 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


You said that it would reduce their popularity.
Reducing their popularity is a bad thing.

Paraphrasing is not a sin :rolleyes:


Kai why is it you cannot seem to get what I posted right? I never said it would reduce popularity what I said it would NOT INCREASE popularity, there is a big difference in what I said and what you said. No increase in popularity means the player count would either stay the same or not make any significant increases in popularity. I said nothing about decreasing it, of course a decrease would be a bad thing but that is not what I posted. Please try to quote me accurately next time. Paraphrasing is fine as long as you keep the original conceptual idea of what was expressed.
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Trying to make them more like Oasis or Shifting Ages will not increase their popularity as is proved by the player count of 2002.

Kaimetsu 06-24-2003 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
Kai why is it you cannot seem to get what I posted right? I never said it would reduce popularity what I said it would NOT INCREASE popularity, there is a big difference in what I said and what you said.
That's a pretty outlandish argument. If you were merely arguing that it would not increase player count then the point would be redundant - no loss, no reason not to do it.

HoudiniMan 06-24-2003 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Oh? I'll remember that :)
That's not to say you can punish her without punishing yourself, as well as half the people on the forums.

Kaimetsu 06-24-2003 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
37 year old server Manager
Meh, close enough. You didn't answer my question, by the way. You love talking about what you perceive to be my bad sides, but I've never seen you even once acknowledge that I do good work too.

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan
That's not to say you can punish her without punishing yourself, as well as half the people on the forums.
I know, I know, I'm not actually going to ban her or anything like that. At least, not just for defending herself in flamewars. Continually starting or joining them is another matter, however.

Milkdude99 06-24-2003 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


That's a pretty outlandish argument. If you were merely arguing that it would not increase player count then the point would be redundant - no loss, no reason not to do it.

There is no reason to do it or not to do it; it is the choice of the person who is making it what they want. Will it succeed? That remains to be seen if they make it , I don't discourage anyone for making a PW out of what they want RP or not.

Kaimetsu 06-24-2003 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
There is no reason to do it or not to do it; it is the choice of the person who is making it what they want. Will it succeed? That remains to be seen if they make it , I don't discourage anyone for making a PW out of what they want RP or not.
You were giving an argument against changing existing playerworlds such that they are more like SA and Oasis. But if you don't think it would reduce the playercount then it's not really an argument at all.

TifaKhan 06-24-2003 05:26 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Oh? I'll remember that :)



As sad as it is that a 40+ server owner feels the need to constantly pick fights with players less than half her age? I have no trouble finding time to enforce the rules. Are you going to argue that I never do anything good as supermod?

Unless your on NPulse 24/7 how could you even know how a Manager operates?
Have you ever tried being one?
People coming on every day insulting you,harrassing you, upload this, do this , do that, hey when are you going to get that done, i want it done now not in 5 minutes.
(this is simply my observation as a server manager)

Kaimetsu 06-24-2003 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by TifaKhan
Unless your on NPulse 24/7 how could you even know how a Manager operates?
I didn't say anything about how Moon Goddess operates as a manager.

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Have you ever tried being one?
Yes. I was manager of 2K1 for a time.

TifaKhan 06-24-2003 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I didn't say anything about how Moon Goddess operates as a manager.



Yes. I was manager of 2K1 for a time.

I was simply commenting on how you said she picks fights with players half her age.
If you meant on NPulse, you have no way of knowing how she treats people unless your there 24/7.
If you meant the forums, well i guess it takes two to argue?

Kaimetsu 06-24-2003 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by TifaKhan
I was simply commenting on how you said she picks fights with players half her age.
If you meant on NPulse, you have no way of knowing how she treats people unless your there 24/7.

Why would you think I was talking about her conduct on N-Pulse?

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If you meant the forums, well i guess it takes two to argue?
But it takes only one to pick a fight.

Darlene159 06-24-2003 05:55 PM

Kai, you are saying I pick fights...I suggest you go back and look at why those fights started, because in most cases it was with you...Now, I am just as guilty as you are in being envolved in flamewars and such, but I cant stand to sit back and watch while you allow stuff like that, and even participate in it.
And yea...I guess I go overboard when defending myself with other people sometimes.
My age plays no part into anything, Kai....

As for whether or not you do good as at your job.....I never once said that you never did anything good, but you cant pick and choose which rules you want to enforce, and which ones you dont want to enforce because you enjoy arguing...a simple arguement or debate is alot different then a huge arguement or flamewar, which I keep seeing...and generally you are right there in the middle of it. If all this is what you want to say is picking fights, then whatever, I dont care....I am sick of it

Dont expect me to sit back and say nothing, because I wont

This thread needs to get back on track now, or just closed and opened by Nemesis or whoever when they need to post updates

ETD 06-24-2003 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
Kai, you are saying I pick fights...I suggest you go back and look at why those fights started, because in most cases it was with you...
I'd say that most times it is you over-reacting to what others say... you seem to take everything so personally, and you take offence quickly... then you over-react, and make some long post, then the other person replies, trying to defend themselves...
Also MG usually likes to bring up personal issues, which don't even have to do with the argument, which then makes the fights even worse.
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Originally posted by Darlene159
This thread needs to get back on track now, or just closed and opened by Nemesis or whoever when they need to post updates
yea, i agree... i've been following this thread for a while, but keeping my mouth shut till now...
It should also be un-stickied seeing as how the one in the main forums has already been unstickied already.

Milkdude99 06-24-2003 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by ETD

Also MG usually likes to bring up personal issues, which don't even have to do with the argument, which then makes the fights even worse.


Reeealy now? Care to show an examples of this? Or are you just in the habit of posting lies? Only personal issues I have on Graal is with you and you just again proved why I do. :rolleyes:

Milkdude99 06-24-2003 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


You were giving an argument against changing existing playerworlds such that they are more like SA and Oasis. But if you don't think it would reduce the playercount then it's not really an argument at all.

I don't think it will reduce anything but as I stated I also don't think it is popular enough with the "present " graal community to increase it or not to any degree anyway.

Darlene159 06-24-2003 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by ETD

I'd say that most times it is you over-reacting to what others say... you seem to take everything so personally, and you take offence quickly... then you over-react, and make some long post, then the other person replies, trying to defend themselves...
Also MG usually likes to bring up personal issues, which don't even have to do with the argument, which then makes the fights even worse.

yea, i agree... i've been following this thread for a while, but keeping my mouth shut till now...
It should also be un-stickied seeing as how the one in the main forums has already been unstickied already.

I was addressing Kai, but thanks for your useless, un-truthful post anyway ;)

Kaimetsu 06-25-2003 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
Kai, you are saying I pick fights...I suggest you go back and look at why those fights started, because in most cases it was with you...
Nope. They fall into three categories:

1) I make a post stating my opinion on an issue, without targetting anybody in particular. You don't like the opinion. You flame me. See: 'In need of prayer'.
2) You make a post flaming me when I haven't even posted in the thread yet.
3) I am arguing with another person and you jump in to flame me.

It's extremely rare that I start the fight, you just love to tell yourself that I do.

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My age plays no part into anything, Kai....
It has to be included in any kind of psychological analysis, dawg.

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As for whether or not you do good as at your job.....I never once said that you never did anything good
But neither have you ever acknowledged that I do. As a supermod, you preferred Aftershock. Do you realise exactly how inactive he was? He might not - in your opinion - have done as much bad stuff as me, but he certainly didn't do as much good.

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you cant pick and choose which rules you want to enforce, and which ones you dont want to enforce because you enjoy arguing
And I don't. If somebody is excessively belligerent then I warn them (recently, for example, I warned both Kinatt and Brett for this). But we're working on thresholds here. If an argument doesn't pass a certain point and turn into an all-out flamewar then usually it can be overlooked.

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This thread needs to get back on track now, or just closed and opened by Nemesis or whoever when they need to post updates
It's rapidly becoming outdated, so it'll soon be unstickied and left to die.

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
I don't think it will reduce anything but as I stated I also don't think it is popular enough with the "present " graal community to increase it or not to any degree anyway.
Then it's a moot point. It carries no weight. It had no value. What was the point of saying it?

Milkdude99 06-25-2003 03:42 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Then it's a moot point. It carries no weight. It had no value. What was the point of saying it?

It had no value to you but you are not the only one on these Forums. So whats your point even replying to it? Value is subjective to the reader, its obvious it has no value to you but we all knew that before you posted and your post carries no weight or value to others as that one did to you.:whatever:

Kaimetsu 06-25-2003 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
It had no value to you but you are not the only one on these Forums. So whats your point even replying to it? Value is subjective to the reader, its obvious it has no value to you but we all knew that before you posted and your post carries no weight or value to others as that one did to you.:whatever:
No, listen. The argument 'it wouldn't change player count' does not work for or against the change. This is logically, objectively true.

MarkB 07-07-2003 09:06 AM

milkman or whatever, dont bother fighting with kaim, cuz you wont win...he is pwn in arguments

Kaimetsu 07-07-2003 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by MarkB
milkman or whatever, dont bother fighting with kaim, cuz you wont win...he is pwn in arguments
The last post occured over a fortnight ago. I don't think you need to tell him that.


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