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CharlieM

08-30-2009 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scary_Sock (Post 1519684)

McGyver got banned. Even Reck said so himself. But, I'll take your word on this.

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McGyver never got banned..McGyver didn't do anything wrong, Reck is the one who tried to scam someone

Mark Sir Link

08-30-2009 07:29 AM

I'm actually surprised there are even rules regarding lending since most other games would leave the risk entirely to the player for lending items out instead of selling them

Sinkler

08-30-2009 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1519698)

I'm actually surprised there are even rules regarding lending since most other games would leave the risk entirely to the player for lending items out instead of selling them

The reason is because Staff do not condone scamming. It's not needed and unethical. We enforce safety in whatever you do AS LONG AS A PR IS WATCHING! It's not hard to follow the rules.

Venom_Fish

08-31-2009 07:29 PM

Being a PR or whatever its called now, is the simplest job you can receive on the Staff Team. Without them monitoring lending trades, their job would be 80% easier =/. Then what will they do? They'd be a useless waste of space, so in case they haven't realized it yet, I hope they do now. The less you have to do, the less of a job you'll have, doesn't take long for people to realize, "all they do is answer questions now?! why not remove RC and FAQ?#@#?23!' And voula, you just lost your position.

So, stop whining.

Spikedude

08-31-2009 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish (Post 1520116)

Being a PR or whatever its called now, is the simplest job you can receive on the Staff Team. Without them monitoring lending trades, their job would be 80(percent) easier =/. Then what will they do? They'd be a useless waste of space, so in case they haven't realized it yet, I hope they do now. The less you have to do, the less of a job you'll have, doesn't take long for people to realize, "all they do is answer questions now?! why not remove RC and FAQ?#@#?23!' And voula, you just lost your position.

So, stop whining.

Nah, they'd just cut back. PRs need to upload/do things with set attr (like for hack-related scams, or like house/car trades). You couldn't take their RC really. That's why there only used to be a couple GPs though, whereas now there's like 10 of them.

Like you said, they'd probably cut back 50-80(percent) of them. But that's just hypothetical, I don't think the policy on scamming is about to change haha.

CharlieM

08-31-2009 11:21 PM

I am sorry but a Pr needs to watch to be safe but they don't like for you to lend for longer then around 10 minutes. I normally just talk to squirt or Erik because I get told to go to squirt by others, or if I ask Erik he will ask someone else if he needs help on some Parnell of it. Needless to say I don't lend guns anymore and the only people who have access to my storage are ones who have no reason to steal my items or don't like the guns I leave in there. I don't wish to lose my pbp again

Geno	08-31-2009 11:29 PM

i never saw why people hated scamming...it helps makes everyone stronger and betters people as players

Vman13x

09-01-2009 03:29 AM

People hate scamming well for one theyve been scammerd, and two the scammer hasnt earned that item which the other person worked hard for.

Mark Sir Link

09-01-2009 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinkler (Post 1519699)

The reason is because Staff do not condone scamming. It's not needed and unethical. We enforce safety in whatever you do AS LONG AS A PR IS WATCHING! It's not hard to follow the rules.

I don't see what scamming has to do with lending.

If you're not sure if you can trust someone you probably shouldn't let them borrow it. Like I said, no other game I am aware of would go through such trouble, and if this is how it's going to work you might as well just develop a lending system rather than have it individually monitored

CharlieM

09-01-2009 04:59 PM

It would allow for the PR team to be cut down to almost nothing so of course they won't go for a system

LordSquirt

09-01-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1520426)

It would allow for the PR team to be cut down to almost nothing so of course they won't go for a system

You make it sound like there is so many PRs in the first place. I only like limited spots and compared to other servers our team is small. For example, Zodiac has around 11 PRs and we only have like 7. Also, we usually have way more players than Zodiac.

Frankie

09-01-2009 07:47 PM

if my staff team consisted of 7 PRs HoudiniMan would of had my balls, lol.

salesman

09-01-2009 08:03 PM

I don't think it would hurt to have a few more, to be honest.

LordSquirt

09-01-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1520463)

if my staff team consisted of 7 PRs HoudiniMan would of had my balls, lol.

It's 7 PRs including me. In actuality that number is pretty low compared to the player count of Era.

salesman

09-01-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1520471)

It's 7 PRs including me. In actuality that number is pretty low compared to the player count of Era.

If anyone is interested in knowing what that count is, in the last 2 weeks:

2084 unique accounts have logged on
815 of those have more than 100 hours
977 were trials

We've also had ~300 support tickets to deal with since its release (~2 weeks).

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