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Torankusu 07-18-2005 05:16 PM

Old Era was really good, even though it didn't seem like there was much to do. I loved collecting the guns and running around in street-type playerworld.

P.S. I'd like to make levels for you guys.
Question about an application though. if I were to submit a level or two, would you guys want it in your tileset, or the pics#.png ?

xAndrewx 07-18-2005 05:45 PM

Lol, skyld showed me the best picture ever. Made me laugh =]

YenroY777 07-18-2005 07:08 PM

=o i want to see the pic -.- =*(

Curt1zzle 07-18-2005 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torankusu
Old Era was really good, even though it didn't seem like there was much to do. I loved collecting the guns and running around in street-type playerworld.

P.S. I'd like to make levels for you guys.
Question about an application though. if I were to submit a level or two, would you guys want it in your tileset, or the pics#.png ?

Era tileset.

Rick 07-18-2005 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torankusu
Old Era was really good, even though it didn't seem like there was much to do. I loved collecting the guns and running around in street-type playerworld.

P.S. I'd like to make levels for you guys.
Question about an application though. if I were to submit a level or two, would you guys want it in your tileset, or the pics#.png ?

Either is fine as long as it shows off your skills. I would like to note however that I am not hiring until Era reopens (for technical reasons), but I am accepting applications.

RogueShatterblade 07-18-2005 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick
Either is fine as long as it shows off your skills. I would like to note however that I am not hiring until Era reopens (for technical reasons), but I am accepting applications.

I'll take back the reigns as GP.

Feel free to flame me.... now!

Bl0nkt 07-19-2005 04:31 AM

ogm oclot band me and i dint do nuthin jus cuz i were runin fast duznt meen dat i r hack it r mean i r high lvl nd i desrve justise here

btw if u unban me if i say u were hax den i wil

MetaTemp 08-01-2005 06:42 AM

Hacking Device for any door just takes a certain amount of time depending on hp.
And a dedidcated .... old era room ... something in which you can do old pking but it doesnt go to your stats. I want the Kuraiittou mansion to still be up (Very good change in mood and good monument of era for people to see). Buisness's to be more like the new small gang houses if the buisness doesnt make enough money then it gets closed (small buisness's) and if the buisness makes enough to pay itself off then it becomes permanant unless the owner sells it. Taxes but it goes towards events and not soo high. Weapon permits and Police armed with police tagged weapons (very high tech and only usable by police) Police dont have jailing or banning powers they just work as a gang basically but a good gang that upholds peace and has handcuffs that only work if a persons hp is a certain level that sends them starting off from the police station and outside the police station is non pk and has a gate and they have a noobie protection effect after being just released where tehy cant attack. More realistic GFX no bull****. Katanas are ok and surikens (i dont know how to spell) but nothing lame everything has to be more realistic no 50000 p4's or surikens flying everwhere and oh a better interactive enviroment (setting stuff on fire fire spreading burning grass and flowers make a dead grass tiles) hmmm what else... MORE TOP SECRET STUFF like things that go through tests and get released underground... or watever (im tired i might not be making too much sence) and buildings for sale .... (also goes along with the gang / buisness) and then there are npc shops that you can order stuff (bar , weapons) and there is already a set level with everything already stored in the server somehow does it ... and for the weapon thing the gang has to stock weaposn there from the weapon shop or top secret buisness..... and they can scroll through it renting it paying for it every day some fee or else it goes back to the gang shop and if people want there own guns they can buy it for alot... and defenses well im not sure if it work well but a npc with a gun but make the npc still and it just fires at it (if it had a zone type aiming effect it might work no more of thsoe lame auto on turrets that kills auto) uh yes PPA can be active but .... yea jsut no ***ness and also there can be a punishment for disobaying a buisness rules they get put into jail for a certain aamount of time and the more they disobey the more time they get (like start with 5 minutes then 10 then 20 then 30 then 40 yea something like that ) but they can break out if a friend has a hacking device and hacks it or shoots it open but there will be police guarding it or a npc but everything has to have rules but it can be broken becuase thats life people lie steal cheat and all that so yea.. lol (very long im tired didnt make much sence i dont know why i even said it but OH WELL)

Evil_Trunks 08-01-2005 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaTemp
Hacking Device for any door just takes a certain amount of time depending on hp.
And a dedidcated .... old era room ... something in which you can do old pking but it doesnt go to your stats. I want the Kuraiittou mansion to still be up (Very good change in mood and good monument of era for people to see). Buisness's to be more like the new small gang houses if the buisness doesnt make enough money then it gets closed (small buisness's) and if the buisness makes enough to pay itself off then it becomes permanant unless the owner sells it. Taxes but it goes towards events and not soo high. Weapon permits and Police armed with police tagged weapons (very high tech and only usable by police) Police dont have jailing or banning powers they just work as a gang basically but a good gang that upholds peace and has handcuffs that only work if a persons hp is a certain level that sends them starting off from the police station and outside the police station is non pk and has a gate and they have a noobie protection effect after being just released where tehy cant attack. More realistic GFX no bull****. Katanas are ok and surikens (i dont know how to spell) but nothing lame everything has to be more realistic no 50000 p4's or surikens flying everwhere and oh a better interactive enviroment (setting stuff on fire fire spreading burning grass and flowers make a dead grass tiles) hmmm what else... MORE TOP SECRET STUFF like things that go through tests and get released underground... or watever (im tired i might not be making too much sence) and buildings for sale .... (also goes along with the gang / buisness) and then there are npc shops that you can order stuff (bar , weapons) and there is already a set level with everything already stored in the server somehow does it ... and for the weapon thing the gang has to stock weaposn there from the weapon shop or top secret buisness..... and they can scroll through it renting it paying for it every day some fee or else it goes back to the gang shop and if people want there own guns they can buy it for alot... and defenses well im not sure if it work well but a npc with a gun but make the npc still and it just fires at it (if it had a zone type aiming effect it might work no more of thsoe lame auto on turrets that kills auto) uh yes PPA can be active but .... yea jsut no ***ness and also there can be a punishment for disobaying a buisness rules they get put into jail for a certain aamount of time and the more they disobey the more time they get (like start with 5 minutes then 10 then 20 then 30 then 40 yea something like that ) but they can break out if a friend has a hacking device and hacks it or shoots it open but there will be police guarding it or a npc but everything has to have rules but it can be broken becuase thats life people lie steal cheat and all that so yea.. lol (very long im tired didnt make much sence i dont know why i even said it but OH WELL)

Alright it took a while but I finished the translation:

Here are my suggestions:
  • Hacking device for breaking into locked doors. Required time is dependant on the HP of the door.
  • A room featuring old style Era PKing.
  • Kuraiittou mansion - make sure this is still around (it's awesome).
  • New business system similar in style to street gangs, businesses would be required to pay a certain amount of rent. However, allow businesses to pay themselves off eventually and become permanent properties of their owner.
  • Taxes on sale of items, to be used as event prizes (not too high!).
  • Bring back the Police gang. They shouldn't have any real powers except tag-locked guns and handcuffs which warp people to the police station. Players would have limited Newbie Protection after being "arrested".
  • More realistic weapons. Katanas and shurikens are fine, but not a ton of shurikens and P4s everywhere.
  • More interactive environment, such as setting things on fire (scorched grass and flowers).
  • Top secret hidden content (underground perhaps).
  • Let players purchase/rent buildings.
  • Stores. Allow people to buy/rent their own stores everywhere, and be able to control them.
  • Allow people to purchase custom weapons for a lot of money.
  • NPC (automated) turrets for base defense, but should be realistic and not instant death defenses.
  • PPA is acceptable.
  • No ***ness.
  • Allow people to be jailed by businesses, but they can be broken out by hackers, although there will be guards and NPC guards.
  • There should be rules, but people should be allowed to break the rules.

xAndrewx 08-01-2005 09:43 AM

Hrm, I think that's Velox. I like the ideas though :-)!
addtiledef tileset_era-summer01.png
Haha, I still remember the addtiledef!

Bl0nkt 08-01-2005 09:01 PM

I like the whole being able to rent out any building idea.

Let me add to this.

When the building is purchased, it gives you three options to choose from (Store, Restaurant, Apartments and Household). If store is selected, you will be prompted to enter the name of your store (which will count as your employees tags aswell). The same applies for Restaurant and Apartments. If you want to change the theme of your building, you must either abandon the building and rebuy or talk to a high staff member capable of changing it.

^ This is to ensure the owner of the area doesn't change what the theme thus creating problems like people in apartments losing their apartments and changing stores to homes leaving employees out of a job for a dumb reason.

For the owner of a store/restaurant, they could have a screen that is accessed through a command that allows them to enter supplies needed to make an item (by this I mean putting in minerals from mining into the screen and if the minerals added up are equal to the ammount of minerals to create a handgun, the handgun stocking npc is created). This is useful for discovering items others don't know about, or paying someone from another store to tell you the ingredients for that particular item. The owners of stores can not stock items you'd see in a restaraunt and the owners of restaraunts can not stock items you'd see in a store. The owners of the store/restaurant could drag and drop the positions of the stocker NPCs and the buy NPCs. An NPC run furniture store could be created to bring looks to your store. It could include things like dimmer switches (used to set a seteffect in the level), wall lights (will enable you to also set the color effect of the light), couches, chairs, plants, doors (will enable you to set options. Apartment, which enables the door to be purchased by someone for use of the door, Employee, which gives access to anyone with the tag of your store, and All Access, which explains itself), etc. The door in front of the building could be changed to either Store/Restaraunt (If Store/Restaraunt is clicked, the next two options will be lock and open. If lock is selected, then only the people with the tags of that store could enter), Apartment (always unlocked), and household (lock and unlock options). Of course there'd be a price to pay for the store. It would cost $500 straight cash a week to keep your business/building.

Wow, I got carried away with that idea.

Good_Ol_Daze 08-01-2005 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt
...If store is selected, you will be prompted to enter the name of your store (which will count as your employees tags aswell)...

...(by this I mean putting in minerals from mining into the screen and if the minerals added up are equal to the ammount of minerals to create a handgun, the handgun stocking npc is created) This is useful for discovering items others don't know about, or paying someone from another store to tell you the ingredients for that particular item....

...The owners of the store/restaurant could drag and drop the positions of the stocker NPCs and the buy NPCs...

...The door in front of the building could be changed to either Store/Restaraunt (If Store/Restaraunt is clicked, the next two options will be lock and open. If lock is selected, then only the people with the tags of that store could enter)...,

...Apartment (always unlocked)...,

...Of course there'd be a price to pay for the store. It would cost $500 straight cash a week to keep your business/building.

1) There needs to be some kind of screening for store names.


2) Are you suggesting using certain combinations of minerals to create stocking NPCs and selling NPCs? A bit foggy there. If so, changing them every once in a while may be a good idea, since they would probably be posted up on a site in about a week. This is a good idea, but it would need some security measures to prevent it from being cheapened.


3) What about desks/furniture type things for the store level? How would the interior levels be edited, or would they just be standardized?


4) This is a little confusing. The store can be changed to a restaurant at any time?


5) Apartments don't need to be always unlocked, but if you own an apartment, you should always be able to access the apartment building.


6) This pricing would work better if it demanded a % of profit (not the money in the safe, actual weekly gain) with a bottom rate of $500. Checking for profit as opposed to money in the safe is important, I believe, because this would prevent a successful first day, then coasting/occupying a building for a long time, when nothing is happening. The bottom rate is, of course, so they can't just make 0 profit and pay $0.


This is a pretty solid idea, but it's going to take a lot of tweaking before it could be conisdered acceptable.

deathbarrier99 08-01-2005 11:42 PM

Rick, why is it taking so damn long to upload the stuff? Like 3 months ago you said that 'the reset is almost over'. Why do you keep making s*** that's f******* the server and just release the damn server to the public. Why don't you hire staff? I don't get it. 3 people can't make a server all by themselves. So why are you doing it? Stop acting like an idiot and use common sense. Btw, Meph's server will own yours. Let's just make it to where you buy lollipops and sell them to another player for 2g, and when you die you go to heaven. And there are tricycles, water guns, sea horsees, and everyone wears there hair combed over and polo shirts and kaki pants. Stop listening to what you want and actually listen to someone else. If you ask the public if they want all the stuff back from Old Era, I betcha more than 95% would. I consider myself already flamed; so don't bother.

Lance 08-01-2005 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathbarrier99
Rick, why is it taking so damn long to upload the stuff? Like 3 months ago you said that 'the reset is almost over'. Why do you keep making s*** that's f******* the server and just release the damn server to the public. Why don't you hire staff? I don't get it. 3 people can't make a server all by themselves. So why are you doing it? Stop acting like an idiot and use common sense. Btw, Meph's server will own yours. Let's just make it to where you buy lollipops and sell them to another player for 2g, and when you die you go to heaven. And there are tricycles, water guns, sea horsees, and everyone wears there hair combed over and polo shirts and kaki pants. Stop listening to what you want and actually listen to someone else. If you ask the public if they want all the stuff back from Old Era, I betcha more than 95% would. I consider myself already flamed; so don't bother.

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Originally Posted by deathbarrier99, earlier
Omfg, how queer is that. Anyway, Jenn's reset was quicker because she just put everything out without checking for errors. Rick is actually taking responsibility into making Era error-free and with that, the player count will be assured to rise. But why start another damn thread about it? Theres at least 50 threads about Era and its reset, the globals have already read it, why start another one? Im suprised Darla or whatever her name is didnt close it yet.

Words.

deathbarrier99 08-01-2005 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Words.

Wow, that shows how many times I have to say that >_< Comin off of one bad manager right into another one


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