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Lyndzey 07-10-2005 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus
Looks that way to me.

He was being sarcastic.

He was making fun of someone who complains all the time, can you guess who?

nikomi946 07-11-2005 01:08 AM

Well, you know, its Max. If he was any other way I'd suspect someone had stolen his account.

StrykerTFFD 07-11-2005 01:15 AM

Eh..I can't believe I'm saying this...but I'm siding with Max on this one.

I honestly don't care if the NPC exists, but it really shouldn't.

kenyonandelliot 07-11-2005 03:29 AM

earlier today lyndzey was his npc :D

maximus_asinus 07-11-2005 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD
Eh..I can't believe I'm saying this...but I'm siding with Max on this one.

I honestly don't care if the NPC exists, but it really shouldn't.

I HAVE CONVERTED STRYKER. WE WILL NOW RULE GRAWL CLASSIC!

kenyonandelliot 07-14-2005 07:05 AM

man i want the old levels back.. I miss CC, sardon's tower, and the other things.

GoZelda 07-16-2005 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyonandelliot
I miss CC, sardon's tower, and the other things.

Man yeah. Seriously, all those memories.

jacob_bald6225 07-17-2005 12:49 AM

I either want the old buggy levels, or actual gameplay elements, its been 6 months and i am tired of sitting around in a lame ****ing chatroom waiting for something new to come online, I either want the old ones or new levels with something to actually do.


Edit: I don't care if Ventrue gets stuff or even if they replace old things just give us something to ****ing do because I am totally sick of waiting.

jacob_bald6225 07-17-2005 08:39 AM

Bold is what we lack
Italic is what is ok/good.

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Originally Posted by Spark910
Classic Tab Requirements
How to apply to become public:
Any news about how to apply will be placed in the main playerworld forum section. Read that information first, do not just e-mail us.


Levels:
-A good amount of outside levels (Lowest around 50)
-If it’s a small leveled overworld there shouldn’t be any empty houses/caves etc.
-Levels should be linked correctly and to a good standard
-No level should trap a player; there should always be a way out (Exception to jails)
-Levels should look good and be of a reasonable standard of detail and quality

Quests:
-Some way to develop the character such as quests
-Player should have fun (Not just kill everything, or carry a pot/bush)
-Each quest should be some what different


Events/Fun:
-Some way to amuse the players:
*Events
*Auctions
*Collectable Items
*Limited Items

Gameplay:
-Lots to do
-Not all over in the first 5mins
-Updates for players frequently

Some original ideas:
-Something new to please the players

Jobs:
-Some way to make/get the currency (e.g: Jobs)
-Give the player a choice in which way to make money
-Make it fun (Not all D-Bashing)

Updates:
-Updates for the server need to be ready upon release (if small)

User Friendly:
-Players starting your playerworld should know where to go and what to do straight away, and shouldn’t have to walk around for a long period of time before finding some sort of place with content.
-All Jobs/Events/Weapons etc should be well documented (e.g: Signs) so that the user knows how to use it. If it’s the basic controls, still have something stating them.(I still dont know how perma clothes works...)

Staff:
-Staff should be able to answer the player comments or PMs.
-Staff should not be abusive or violent towards and Graal player.
-Some staff should monitor the mass messages and punish those who go against the Graal user agreement.
-All staff should be trained in their area, and know how to do their job (e.g: GPs)
-Staff do not need staff weapons therefore all staff do not need some. If you do make these they should be secure to work with staff-tags and disable sword etc.. so the weapon can not be abused.

Could we possibly be accepted if it were a new server?

Out of the 24 items Classic currently meets 9.... that is a 38% of the Classic Tab Requirements... pretty freakin ironic that the server called classic doesn't even meet the requirments to be on the classic list?

p2p_Sir_Link 07-17-2005 08:42 AM

Nope. I'm tired of hearing the V4 excuse too. Honestly, "We refuse to do anything to heavy because v4 will be released soon and we're doing stuff compatible with it and you guys can't see it because you don't have v4."

kenyonandelliot 07-17-2005 09:55 AM

I dislike v4, it would be better tested if EVERYONE can test it. Not just the people that Malinko or some others like.

Yeah, you're right about the classic tab... Also on the events theres no auctions.. It would of been smarter if they just left the levels and got a team to fix the errors, and instead of v4 which only very few can use, they should of put the time into v2.

p2p_Sir_Link 07-17-2005 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyonandelliot
I dislike v4, it would be better tested if EVERYONE can test it.

That would just lead to a few idiots using it and not knowing what to do to get it fixed. Regardless of how close V4 is to release, we should still be getting something on classic.

Polo 07-17-2005 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
Nope. I'm tired of hearing the V4 excuse too. Honestly, "We refuse to do anything to heavy because v4 will be released soon and we're doing stuff compatible with it and you guys can't see it because you don't have v4."

All the stuff I've been working on I test with both V2 and V4.

maximus_asinus 07-18-2005 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Polo
All the stuff I've been working on I test with both V2 and V4.

Oh so you have no excuse for the lack of updates?

kenyonandelliot 07-18-2005 03:36 AM

I think hes working on a few new quests

p2p_Sir_Link 07-18-2005 05:37 AM

I think he's not, for details I will leave undisclosed has of now.

maximus_asinus 07-18-2005 06:10 PM

I heard he is going to something to the server when he quits, like upload pr0n and his DJ music. >_<

StrykerTFFD 07-18-2005 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
I think he's not, for details I will leave undisclosed has of now.

As of now and forever -_-

Polo 07-19-2005 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
I think he's not, for details I will leave undisclosed has of now.

You are incorrect.

jahngod 07-19-2005 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenyonandelliot
man i want the old levels back.. I miss CC, sardon's tower, and the other things.

Agreed.

Polo: Is there no way you can release the old overworld, for us to play with at our leisure?

kenyonandelliot 07-19-2005 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jahngod
Polo: Is there no way you can release the old overworld, for us to play with at our leisure?

Yeah.. I forgot why they got rid of it. If it was because of the npc server then you could put us in a place to play on while you fix the npcs.

p2p_Sir_Link 07-19-2005 06:34 AM

No, he cannot do that because he wants you to play his classic.

p2p_Sir_Link 07-19-2005 10:10 AM

I finally find that arguing with the classic staff is like arguing with rocks. I was accused of YET ANOTHER conspiracy plot today, because I said "I'm going to try my hardest to get someone to deal with Storm". I suppose that "deal with" automatically means have Storm fired, because I hold so much influence on classic today.

I also learned today that I was going to be hired to FAQ, but I was gone during a portion of the hiring period (mind you, I returned during the period, and had actually been online at the same time as administration, proven by history) I was not hired. Weird. It had been stated FAQ hiring would be open for two weeks. I left and returned with ample cushions between starting and ending of these two weeks. But appearntly, decisions were made before 2 weeks elapsed, and I find myself once again out of classic work. It's ridicoulous. Classic is the first server to actually decline applications of mine. Every other server I applied for jumped instantly and hired me. Classic, known for inept staff, has done so once, to LAT, about 3 weeks after I applied because I was different and had to go through "security checks" based on plotting I did that no one can prove even happened.

This idiot fest is annoying. Classic has holed itself to hiring only the most idiotic of those who apply.
FAQs: I PM them, and cannot understand what they respond with. I thought it was a basic FAQ requirement to have a basic grip of grammar, and every FAQ speaks English has a first language.
GCs: Inactive, inept, idiotic. I can sum it up with the word "Valor"
LATs: Are you guys even doing anything? When's the last time a LAT has even gone on, let alone put the tag on.
GPs: Eh, seem to be doing ok.

StrykerTFFD 07-19-2005 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
because I was different and had to go through "security checks" based on plotting I did that no one can prove even happened.

Well I can prove it since you admitted it to me, but eh. :rolleyes:

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FAQs: I PM them, and cannot understand what they respond with. I thought it was a basic FAQ requirement to have a basic grip of grammar, and every FAQ speaks English has a first language.
GCs: Inactive, inept, idiotic. I can sum it up with the word "Valor"
LATs: Are you guys even doing anything? When's the last time a LAT has even gone on, let alone put the tag on.
GPs: Eh, seem to be doing ok.
Again, I'm touched. :cool:

maximus_asinus 07-19-2005 05:05 PM

You think you've got it bad Kevin? I've got word that I'm blacklisted from every job on Classic, and several people I know were rejected because they knew me. I though that very sad, but oh well.

StrykerTFFD 07-19-2005 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus
You think you've got it bad Kevin? I've got word that I'm blacklisted from every job on Classic, and several people I know were rejected because they knew me. I though that very sad, but oh well.

You're not blacklisted from GP? That's news to me.

AlexH 07-19-2005 05:42 PM

Not much point in calling it classic really. For the most part it is a completly different server now than the one people are talking about in this thread.

Only way to make some of the people here happy would to host an older version of classic on a different server with no NPC Server the scripts would still work.

StrykerTFFD 07-19-2005 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexH
Only way to make some of the people here happy would to host an older version of classic on a different server with no NPC Server the scripts would still work.

Been there. Done that. Failed.

Only way to make people happy is....oh wait. People have been complaining since the beginning of Graal. Guess you can't. :redface:

p2p_Sir_Link 07-19-2005 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD
Been there. Done that. Failed.

Only way to make people happy is....oh wait. People have been complaining since the beginning of Graal. Guess you can't. :redface:

If you're in reference to Kalypso, Storm had the PWA shut it down. So yes, it failed. No one is allowed to do such things.

maximus_asinus 07-19-2005 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD
Again, I'm touched. :cool:

Wait, he's going to ban me again, wait for it.
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Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD
You're not blacklisted from GP? That's news to me.

I'm not entirely sure on how you meant that to sound, but I heard two people were rejected because of knowing me.

kenyonandelliot 07-19-2005 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
No, he cannot do that because he wants you to play his classic.

Thats probaly why he doesn't want to upload the other server back. No one really cares about what he wants us to play, we want to play the old classic not this one that he had put. Just get rid of the NPC Server.

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus
I'm not entirely sure on how you meant that to sound, but I heard two people were rejected because of knowing me.

Your a bad man

p2p_Sir_Link 07-19-2005 07:43 PM

I wouldn't mind Storm's replacement, but I've yet to find someone who could replace him. Too bad Kalypso got shut down.

kenyonandelliot 07-19-2005 07:56 PM

how about I?

p2p_Sir_Link 07-19-2005 07:58 PM

How about you? I'd make a more suitable manager then yourself.

StrykerTFFD 07-19-2005 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
How about you? I'd make a more suitable manager then yourself.

And that's not saying much. :whatever:

p2p_Sir_Link 07-19-2005 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD
And that's not saying much. :whatever:

I'm glad you have an opinion, but I've yet to see any levels or scripts by you, nor do I think I'd like to.

Polo 07-19-2005 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
I'm glad you have an opinion, but I've yet to see any levels or scripts by you, nor do I think I'd like to.

Managing a server isn't just about making levels and scripting things :P

StrykerTFFD 07-19-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
I'm glad you have an opinion, but I've yet to see any levels or scripts by you, nor do I think I'd like to.

...I'm a GP Admin. Are you dense or retarded? Or both? Yeah, let's go with both.

I could script and level if I wanted to. I've done it before. I find babysitting you fools more fun though.

p2p_Sir_Link 07-19-2005 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD
...I'm a GP Admin. Are you dense or retarded? Or both? Yeah, let's go with both.

Invalid counterarguement. GP Admins cannot be good managers if they do not have abilities to script/level. Running the show doesn't mean you don't do work.


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I could script and level if I wanted to. I've done it before. I find babysitting you fools more fun though.
I'm sure you'd have to learn quite a bit before you could do either well enough to run classic.

StrykerTFFD 07-19-2005 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
I'm sure you'd have to learn quite a bit before you could do either well enough to run classic.

You actually have no clue as to what my scripting abilities are.
And since when have I wanted to run Classic?


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