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Gameo 07-02-2001 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by vergil
Gameo
TrueHeaT

Geovanie is who he is Mr Bear is who he is, nothing is going to change that. i dont think that ever ni the history of graal has a change in staff happened because of what the players said
maybe once or twice becauseof what a staff member did but technically theres not enough proof to do anything about it
it is what it is and you arent going to change it no matter how much you tell everyone Geovanie and Mr Bear are bad and corupt
it doesnt matter if they are or not, because it wont make a difference. in a week or two everyone wil have forgotten about it, and you probably will have too, because youll get so sick of argueing without success that youll stop.

yes, you're right.
you're completely right.

Gameo 07-02-2001 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

hmm...lets see....everytime it seemed that Geo posted something, graal related or not, you were there waiting for him....I have eyes, and a brain as well. I am not ignorant as to what is going on. Also, congrats on being a martyr, THT.

TrueHeaT:
You obviously didn't see how I never attacked him, I merely stated my opionion of his playerworld. Upon doing that hordes of his friends and him himself called me "immature" "***" they said I could never make better PWs than him ETC.

G_yoshi 07-02-2001 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo


you're right as far as attitude goes, but it's not personal grudges. bear told me that starting next week he would be getting paid. (the log in my profile)


but a crime done on the forums means you're to be punished on the forums.
a crime done on graal means you're to be punished on graal.

they ARE seperate entities.

explain to me how they are seperate...both are in the real world, and thus are affected by real world variables. If this forum was not hosted by GO, then I would consider it a seperate entity...but because it is hosted under the name GraalOnline...it is part of that entity and not outside that. Until Unixmad or Stefan post a message saying that the forums and Graal are seperate, then they should be considered 1 entity. Making them seperate would allow people to break rules and repeat. It would also allow people to evade being banned :D

And if bear gets paid, then that is fine and dandy. That obviously will mean that his performance will pick up..otherwise, he will be fired for lack of performance and of course, lose the pay. If you want the staff to be better and not "corrupt" then pay them, or find people that are willing and are devout, otherwise you set yourself up for disappointment.

The reoccuring problem I see is that people expect too much of volunteer staff. That is why there are so many problems.

Archeon 07-02-2001 12:10 PM

Enough is Enough is Enough
 
can we just fire Mr Bear already so this damn thread will end?

Hulk Hogan 07-02-2001 12:10 PM

http://members.aol.com/andrew5656/myhomepage/hate.gif

ok? thanks

Gameo 07-02-2001 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


explain to me how they are seperate...both are in the real world, and thus are affected by real world variables. If this forum was not hosted by GO, then I would consider it a seperate entity...but because it is hosted under the name GraalOnline...it is part of that entity and not outside that. Until Unixmad or Stefan post a message saying that the forums and Graal are seperate, then they should be considered 1 entity. Making them seperate would allow people to break rules and repeat. It would also allow people to evade being banned :D

And if bear gets paid, then that is fine and dandy. That obviously will mean that his performance will pick up..otherwise, he will be fired for lack of performance and of course, lose the pay. If you want the staff to be better and not "corrupt" then pay them, or find people that are willing and are devout, otherwise you set yourself up for disappointment.

The reoccuring problem I see is that people expect too much of volunteer staff. That is why there are so many problems.

They are two seperate entities.
If you want them to be one entity, then have it so if a person can't be banned on one or the other, but on both. If a person does something wrong on the forums he should not be punished on Graal, it's ridiculous and makes no sense. He should be banned on the forums. Same goes with Graal. The rules here don't apply to Graal. There are seperate rules for Graal Forums and Graal.exe. You don't realize this.

07-02-2001 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: Sorry I am not giving you my hammer for free. Your signature falls under the category of lewd images and you are breaking the forum rules by using it.
Please remove it.


I don't see any sig... :(

Crono Illusion 07-02-2001 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Garnet_Mithica



I don't see any sig... :(

I think he removed it.

smallballn13 07-02-2001 12:16 PM

http://members.aol.com/andrew5656/myhomepage/hate.gif

thanks!

Gameo 07-02-2001 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


explain to me how they are seperate...both are in the real world, and thus are affected by real world variables. If this forum was not hosted by GO, then I would consider it a seperate entity...but because it is hosted under the name GraalOnline...it is part of that entity and not outside that. Until Unixmad or Stefan post a message saying that the forums and Graal are seperate, then they should be considered 1 entity. Making them seperate would allow people to break rules and repeat. It would also allow people to evade being banned :D

And if bear gets paid, then that is fine and dandy. That obviously will mean that his performance will pick up..otherwise, he will be fired for lack of performance and of course, lose the pay. If you want the staff to be better and not "corrupt" then pay them, or find people that are willing and are devout, otherwise you set yourself up for disappointment.

The reoccuring problem I see is that people expect too much of volunteer staff. That is why there are so many problems.

TrueHeaT: Why do you think Stefan unbanned my Graal account? He aknowledges that offenses on the forum are not to be punished in game! It's JUST COMMON SENSE! I realize you only think I should be banned and hold a grudge against my because I am not a christian and I oppose their views, but let this not cloud your thought.

Gameo 07-02-2001 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo


TrueHeaT: Why do you think Stefan unbanned my Graal account? He aknowledges that offenses on the forum are not to be punished in game! It's JUST COMMON SENSE! I realize you only think I should be banned and hold a grudge against my because I am not a christian and I oppose their views, but let this not cloud your thought.


Archeon 07-02-2001 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo



hey guy, quoting yourself is stupid, and i do that...so stop..

Gameo 07-02-2001 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Archeon


hey guy, quoting yourself is stupid, and i do that...so stop..

i quoted TrueHeaT using my account y0

G_yoshi 07-02-2001 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo


TrueHeaT: Why do you think Stefan unbanned my Graal account? He aknowledges that offenses on the forum are not to be punished in game! It's JUST COMMON SENSE! I realize you only think I should be banned and hold a grudge against my because I am not a christian and I oppose their views, but let this not cloud your thought.

i have no grudge against you for that...it is your attitude and behavior and the fact that you want the whole graal community to exonerate you. That is why I continue to post on this thread.

If you would just settle down and review all the side first, then make your decision, you would not have problems to worry about....large problems that is.

I think both of you would make great friends, to be honest. You are both worth my time to debate with. :) Unless I see something I should have to comment on in this thread again....consider me as having dropped myself out of the dicussion.

take care, till we meet again...

Gameo 07-02-2001 12:43 PM

TrueHeaT: I have reviewed both sides.
Well, it seems like you're holding a grudge because ever since the thread where we argued about religion it seems you treat me really badly.. =\
I don't want to whole Graal community to exonerate me I don't know why you think that.
Of course I have an additude to Geovanie who as I said before started these arguments by being so defensive about his playerworlds and causing so many people to hate me just because I don't like them.


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