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LordMatt 12-01-2004 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Regarding applications: I received one application from LordMatt, which was already once-before rejected. I'm not going to suddenly change my mind about his application just because I want progress on Graal2001. My standards are unchanging, guys. They're high, and that's tough.

Regarding my online time/activities: I'm currently not online every day. It happens that I have several classes and a busy schedule. I'm on enough to log on dev, to read emails + forum PMs, to answer questions, and to coordinate the actions of my staff.

You have never sent me an email that you looked at it and whatnot. Not once have you told me how it can improve for the better and what I should do if I wan't it for this "g2k1 quality". If you have a busy schedule, then someone else should be in charge since you are not always around to oversee the project.

protagonist 12-01-2004 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance
And how would you know...?

The logs say it all.

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Originally Posted by Lance
I don't think you'd like me editing your posts. Also, 2001 isn't what you said it was - that was kinda my point. Please return to your hole.

Would that be the hole you found your management skills and/or excuses in? If so, I'll politely decline.

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Originally Posted by Lance
I've spoken with him before. That suffices.

How long ago?
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Originally Posted by Lance
No. I refuse to sacrifice the quality of this server.

There is no server. It is just a bunch of levels and scripts sitting dormant.

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Originally Posted by Lance
Wrong-a-roo, unless Gryffon and Excalibur mysteriously disintegrated when I wasn't looking...I'd better check on that.

Two people aren't going to run a server. This is why your manager skills are so suspect.

brock128 12-01-2004 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
And how would you know...?

Well you sure seem to enjoy giving us examples of your hard work on this server! :)

xAndrewx 12-01-2004 05:34 PM

lol, true

LogicBot 12-02-2004 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by zell12
Umm, Graal2001 had like 400+ people playing it and it had a constant 100 or so every day. We can achieve that again.

Yeah, for two weeks.

Go job if you can get that up regularly.

Zurkiba 12-02-2004 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LogicBot
Yeah, for two weeks.

Go job if you can get that up regularly.

You fail to understand how G2k1 works...

zell12 12-02-2004 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LogicBot
Yeah, for two weeks.

Go job if you can get that up regularly.

Umm, it was for a few years there kid.


Also, you need to work on that grammar man.

LogicBot 12-02-2004 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zell12
Umm, it was for a few years there kid.


Also, you need to work on that grammar man.

You need to get off those delusions.

Zurkiba 12-02-2004 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LogicBot
You need to get off those delusions.

Umm..

It was like that for a couple of years...

Kuza 12-03-2004 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Based on what I have received so far and seen, I would be interested in having you on the team, if nothing else than to give input. Please send me an email and we can work something out.

Thank you for the chance. I'll send an e-mail your way shortly with some recent level screenshots and some storyboard tidbits. It may be a few days since I have no internet connection, but I can put the files on my thumbdrive and deliver it from home to work.

Side Note: I see nothing wrong in the way you manage your team. You shouldn't be vilified because you have a life and other responsibilities outside of Graal2001. That is completely understandable to me and I would hope (I will safely presume you already do) as a manager you would look at your team members the same. Your job is to keep the team informed and prioritized with current information and tasks. All the manager has to do is just as his title entails... manage. ^_^

LogicBot 12-03-2004 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
Umm..

It was like that for a couple of years...

I'm saying you won't get it back to that, and should just leave it up like Classic.

brock128 12-03-2004 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicBot
You need to get off those delusions.

You need to realize that Graal 2001 is about 5 years old :)

xAndrewx 12-03-2004 05:49 PM

been in development for the past 2-3 years?

Zurkiba 12-04-2004 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
been in development for the past 2-3 years?

Wow try 15 months

zell12 12-04-2004 04:13 AM

I've ben busy the past few days with Math assignments and yesterday, my computer gave out and I had to get another HardDrive. I might be able to get some things off of it, but it is old. :(

I'm hoping to get back on tonight. :(

xAndrewx 12-04-2004 11:24 AM

i believe tseng and angel revived it for 2 weeks? they didn't really improve anything so before than too

GoZelda 12-04-2004 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by brock128
You need to realize that Graal 2001 is about 5 years old :)

Graal2001 will never be succesful 'cos I'm banned.

brock128 12-04-2004 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
i believe tseng and angel revived it for 2 weeks? they didn't really improve anything so before than too

So did about 6 other people. It's the same cycle. They "OMG SLAVE FOR MONTHS", release it to the public, the hype keeps it up for a week or two, but nothing's released, and it goes to the bottom of the server list, closed for "construction"... rince, lather, repeat.

Zurkiba 12-04-2004 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brock128
So did about 6 other people. It's the same cycle. They "OMG SLAVE FOR MONTHS", release it to the public, the hype keeps it up for a week or two, but nothing's released, and it goes to the bottom of the server list, closed for "construction"... rince, lather, repeat.

Graal runs off of the kingdoms and it's economy.

I wouldn't want to play a server where all I do is press D all day. And last time there weren't any kingdoms atall.

Lance 12-04-2004 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brock128
So did about 6 other people. It's the same cycle. They "OMG SLAVE FOR MONTHS", release it to the public, the hype keeps it up for a week or two, but nothing's released, and it goes to the bottom of the server list, closed for "construction"... rince, lather, repeat.

Why do you think I have not opened it yet...?

Anyway, about screenshots: Yes, we can release some screenshots, but I would like the final say on what is allowed out. I did ask the team to not disclose just what was being worked on for a reason - surprise. I can agree to let some things be known, but others will be much more fun if they are discovered on their own. :)

GoZelda 12-04-2004 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Why do you think I have not opened it yet...?

Anyway, about screenshots: Yes, we can release some screenshots, but I would like the final say on what is allowed out. I did ask the team to not disclose just what was being worked on for a reason - surprise. I can agree to let some things be known, but others will be much more fun if they are discovered on their own. :)

Can you make an estimation of how long it will take for Graal2001 to be released and whether or not it will be gold or classic?

FenixTheBanished 12-05-2004 10:11 AM

Hmm .

brock128 12-05-2004 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Why do you think I have not opened it yet...

Because you're "OMG SLAVING ON IT" so you can open it for 2 weeks? :confused:

xAndrewx 12-06-2004 09:17 PM

screenshots?

protagonist 12-13-2004 10:15 PM

7 days without a reply.

Lance 12-13-2004 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
7 days without a reply.

And?

protagonist 12-13-2004 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
And?


Are we to take it as a sign of progress?

Lance 12-14-2004 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Are we to take it as a sign of progress?

Of course, because naturally the community's response to a thread perfectly assesses the progress of a server!

protagonist 12-14-2004 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Of course, because naturally the community's response to a thread perfectly assesses the progress of a server!


Not the community's. Yours.

Lance 12-14-2004 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Not the community's. Yours.

Of course again, because I post every single detail that goes on!

Incorrect, my good friend!

protagonist 12-14-2004 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Of course again, because I post every single detail that goes on!

Incorrect, my good friend!

You do not post any details. You post vague things that have no particular meaning, i.e "there is work being done". There are no specifics in your messages.

Lance 12-14-2004 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
You do not post any details. You post vague things that have no particular meaning, i.e "there is work being done". There are no specifics in your messages.

And of course the only reason that I could possibly have for not posting specifics is that there is no progress! It could never be that specifics are not required to be disclosed, or that I would rather surprise people with the multitude of changes that we have been making!

Emily_Cruddas 12-14-2004 10:42 AM

We shall see it when it is released, just need to wait, go find something else to do, i watched 16 movies during this month and i'm still waiting for anything major to happen with Era, 2001 and GK, but i'm not holding my breath.



I'll count the release of 2001 as a bonus in my life. :cool:

zell12 12-14-2004 01:49 PM

Does he have to post details? No.
Stop pushing this any further than it is now. :(

Brad 12-14-2004 01:53 PM

tseng lemme apply for stafalaff

brock128 12-14-2004 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
And of course the only reason that I could possibly have for not posting specifics is that there is no progress! It could never be that specifics are not required to be disclosed, or that I would rather surprise people with the multitude of changes that we have been making!

It's not so much that you aren't posting anything as the fact that you are posting nothing other then "work is being done."

Hey, I made a new playerworld that is better then oasis and work is being done on it!!!

protagonist 12-14-2004 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
And of course the only reason that I could possibly have for not posting specifics is that there is no progress! It could never be that specifics are not required to be disclosed, or that I would rather surprise people with the multitude of changes that we have been making!

If you could make all these changes in one week, then it truly shows how ridiculas this situation is. As of a week ago, nothing was going on. Am I to believe any different now?


You simply are not showing any change in behavior. You're continuing to make the same style of statements without any supporting evidence. Why should we take your word for it?

Zurkiba 12-14-2004 11:02 PM

The purpose of the recent posts is simple.

We still dont believe Lance has done anything.


Edit// As a matter of fact. I havn't seen anything new since my speech a while back

zell12 12-15-2004 02:35 AM

My Harddrive died. Lucky, I saved a few files on a disk because I knew it was going to go soon. But I never got them all. X_x

I'm working on a 20GB HD right now, my old old one until I get my new one. :(

Amagius 12-15-2004 04:22 AM

Moral of this thread: Lance, please show us some work so we can reaffirm that our love, Graal 2001, will return. It's not that we are bosses that need you to hit a deadline -- we're fans who want to see what is happening, or we grow doubtful.


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