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Ruf 01-24-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1268625)
I personally don't get all this rebeling. This forum was created for the discussion of graal. There's a whole load of other forums which are quite nice for whatever you're trying to post.

Honestly? I just think everyone is sick of having to watch every single thing that they post in case of the mass amount of repercussion that comes with it.

Door 01-24-2007 10:40 PM

I'm really sick of watching people being treated like crap by MODS and hoping that new players won't just turn right around when they see these forums. Talk about unwelcoming.

Andy0687 01-24-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1268625)
I personally don't get all this rebeling. This forum was created for the discussion of graal.

But we really cant discuss anything here. So I dunno.

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There's a whole load of other forums which are quite nice for whatever you're trying to post.
This is the part I dont get and seems to be the Mods basis for Moderation, there are other places to go, but dosent graal want our buisness here, on their forums? Not populating other peoples forums?

Guys my thread was mostly just a question about the access of the support center, Im glad it wasnt deleted, and to me is a step in the right direction at least. Walls of Text never did anything but look daunting.

Admins 01-24-2007 10:49 PM

We don't make money with letting people harass other people, no matter if they are normal forum members or moderators. You can't believe that we would make more money if we allow such illegal things. This is just not the place to express personal feelings about moderators. If someone has a real problem then he/she can use the support center. That is simple to understand.

Ruf 01-24-2007 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1268657)
We don't make money with letting people harass other people, no matter if they are normal forum members or moderators. You can't believe that we would make more money if we allow such illegal things. This is just not the place to express personal fealings about moderators. If someone has a real problem then he/she can use the support center. That is simple to understand.

Stefan..

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Originally Posted by Ruf (Post 1268567)
I sent the ticket under Forums and Other, I also e-mailed it to yourself, Unixmad and Ibonic yet.. I had no reply from anyone other then Moon Goddess, which Sam closed.

How hard is that to understand?

excaliber7388 01-24-2007 10:53 PM

Happy customers are returning customers. 80% of your profits come from 20% of your customers. You rely on brand loyalty to make money. Or you won't.

Door 01-24-2007 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1268657)
We don't make money with letting people harass other people, no matter if they are normal forum members or moderators. You can't believe that we would make more money if we allow such illegal things. This is just not the place to express personal fealings about moderators. If someone has a real problem then he/she can use the support center. That is simple to understand.

Not everyone has problems to voice here. Some of them just want to have a good time, but I see little of that happening. ffs, we can't even jokingly call one another '*****'. That's like saying calling you "Silly Stefan". How far is it going to go? Soon we won't be able to say "dummy" and "poop".

Admins 01-24-2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1268665)
Happy customers are returning customers. 80% of your profits come from 20% of your customers. You rely on brand loyalty to make money. Or you won't.

Right, by allowing interesting discussions on the forums we make our customers more happy. By allowing stupid threads which don't follow any rule we don't make the customers more happy. Plain and simple. A customer is always right, except he/she makes other customers unhappy.

Door 01-24-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1268672)
Right, by allowing interesting discussions on the forums we make our customers more happy. By allowing stupid threads which don't follow any rule we don't make the customers more happy. Plain and simple. A customer is always right, except he/she makes other customers unhappy.

Define 'stupid' please.

also I think that word offends me so please refrain from using it.

zell12 01-24-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1268657)
We don't make money with letting people harass other people, no matter if they are normal forum members or moderators. You can't believe that we would make more money if we allow such illegal things. This is just not the place to express personal feelings about moderators. If someone has a real problem then he/she can use the support center. That is simple to understand.

I suggest studying a bit more of the English lanuage. Who here is harassing people? Look that up.


We aren't asking you to allow illegal things. Read Googi's thread. Stop being lazy and ignoring the subject at hand.


This is not a real problem? Forum moderators are causing real problems.

Ruf 01-24-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1268672)
Right, by allowing interesting discussions on the forums we make our customers more happy. By allowing stupid threads which don't follow any rule we don't make the customers more happy. Plain and simple. A customer is always right, except he/she makes other customers unhappy.

Stefan..

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Originally Posted by Ruf (Post 1268567)
I sent the ticket under Forums and Other, I also e-mailed it to yourself, Unixmad and Ibonic yet.. I had no reply from anyone other then Moon Goddess, which Sam closed.

I don't think I've ever made another customer feel "unhappy" ..other then MC_ GUNNER, but he deserved it - he was a hacker!

Crono 01-24-2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1268672)
Right, by allowing interesting discussions on the forums we make our customers more happy. By allowing stupid threads which don't follow any rule we don't make the customers more happy. Plain and simple. A customer is always right, except he/she makes other customers unhappy.

you are so misguided man...

the problem we all have are within the rules themselves and to the extent they are moderated, its not so hard to see really. how many customers have you really lost by players harassing others COMPARED to the amount that quit because of the hardline moderation here?

i think i'll stop there, i've said enough.

excaliber7388 01-24-2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1268672)
Right, by allowing interesting discussions on the forums we make our customers more happy. By allowing stupid threads which don't follow any rule we don't make the customers more happy. Plain and simple. A customer is always right, except he/she makes other customers unhappy.

Yes, harassment would not be allowed.
But closing threads on account of 'moderator digression' or because of homosexuality? Or mods changing the rules at will?
Mods have too much power, and clearly, people are unhappy

Admins 01-24-2007 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Door (Post 1268667)
we can't even jokingly call one another '*****'.

Words like "gay" or "*****" just don't fit in normal discussions. They are accepted by a lot of people to say that they don't like the other person, but that doesn't make it ok to use them in an international discussion forum of an online game.

zell12 01-24-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1268680)
Words like "gay" or "*****" just don't fit in normal discussions. They are accepted by a lot of people to say that they don't like the other person, but that doesn't make it ok to use them in an international discussion forum of an online game.

Censor evasion, you are evading your own rules! :rolleyes:


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