And I don't have to justify my actions to you :). I could really care less about you people stalk me and seem to take a screenshot of every single one of my actions. In fact, I find it quite humorous and pathetic.

I didn't bash you :D Certainly someone who speaks as if their opinions can't possibly be wrong should be able interpret my postcorrectly?

Again, Think -> Post. I don't have access or rights to fix half of the problems so please don't play the point the finger game. And please stop attacking me like that, you're getting close to harassment.

Again, Think -> Post. I don't have access to make sure everything is in working order. Also, forgive me that I'm not omnipotent, do you know anything about programming? If you did you would know how hard it is to make something this complex that is bug free. There will always be bugs, loop holes, and exploits.

Grats, Wanna cookie?

I guess not everyone has the unique ability that you do. It must be amazing to be able to post things that are only the indefinite truth :).

Again, these personal attacks are pretty close to harassmnet..

Harrassment:
To irritate or torment persistently.


As you can see, i only posted once, meaning im not harrassing and its not close to it. Please, learn your definitions before you decide to use specific words.

How are we (us players) suppose to know what rights you have? You're using the fact that you dont have the rights as an excuse, well, that isnt an excuse at all. First reason, is that us players dont know what rights you have, so your comment about your rights is irrelevant to what im exclaiming. Secondly, you dont need to have every right to do anything. You can simply do things, then submit them to Stefan so he can upload. If you need a level right, then have Stefan give you rights to it, or have him send you the level, you work on it, then you send it back and he uploads. Saying that you dont have enough rights to fix things like bugs or errors or to improve a few things is NEVER AN ISSUE. How do you think normal servers are handled?, what, you actually think everyone gets level 4 rc? Personally, from what you say, you're taking the lazy way out of it. There is no excuse at all, so stop randomly choosing some.

"Where theres a will, theres a way."

Remember that.

What items? If there was anything at all, it's either gone or taken away now. If you're talking about brutals, I didn't get those from Jagen, nor any staff. If you want to know, go find out for yourself or ask "nay", she knows pretty well. Stacked ones been floating around the server before I even came back to Graal, and I certainly know a whole LIST of people who has them, names would not be mentioned though. *cough real cold cough* All my gear I had before I quit basically. With the exception of items being EAed or other gear that I traded or received from friend <3 ana.. gloves of Marks/helm I had before quitting. RDA i won like 2 years ago. It's blah enough that jagen uses createitem in the public sometimes to either 1)make stuff for who knows what 2) restoring and I happen to be there, so people go and take screenshots and then we both get framed. *sigh*

I wish you wouldn't be telling him what to do with his time. His life isn't bound to graal >_> Staff like Lance/Ben/Jagen, they don't even get paid, yet they still stay even though they have to deal with slander and disatisfaction from people. If you're dying to see some change, join debug or something, that's the best way to have your voice and ideas heard.

Do you know ANYTHING about the 2k2 system? It is NOT a normal system with NPCs. There is a mudlib extention to the NPC Server that handles all the stats, item managements, player accounts, and a lot more. It is obviously not coded in graal script. I do not have access to the source. Therefore, there are no "rights" to give. Stefan is also rather busy latel. Therefore, there is no one to fix the bugs. Do you see the pattern?

You obviously don't know what rights I have. However, that doesn't excuse you from blindly accusing me of doing nothing. You do not have access to debug. You do not know what goes on. You do not have ANY right to make ANY assumptions. You do not know what I do when I'm on RC. Stop acting like you magically know everything.

I do know that you and Malinko are talking trash about me right now on Debug RC.And yes, I know i dont have access to Debug, Jon. I'm not accusing you of not doing anything, im saying that GK isnt being controled properly and everything is ran poorly. I dont know what rights you have, and i dont care. But, if you really cared about GK, then you could speak with Stefan or leave him a note to improve on a few things.

And that is relavent, how? We were only discussing your scripts, which have absolutely no relavence to this topic. Tell whoever is leaking you logs to stop or Nay-I mean, their access could be terminated :)

We do tell Stefan to fix bugs, more often than not he is too busy to actually fix them. Please stop accusing me of things.

Actually, Malinko himself admitted he was talking trash. This has nothing to do with "Nay". Looks like you're accusing people also, Jon. How about you stop complaining about being accused when infact you're accusing yourself. Oh, and i wasnt accusing you of anything in that post, so instead of saying the same thing each post, why dont you just think of something else to post or dont post at all.

Oh, and to the comment where you laugh at the fact that people take screenies of you being corrupt, well, guess what, we laugh at you also. Im sure Stefan would have a good laugh if he saw the screenies, then again, he might actually take the issue more seriously then you think it is?

i must say that was in retialition of craigus' 'Anti-Nay' guild. i saw that both and neither one got put through.


the person grudges have gone on for too long now. but like always they will continue. simply put. the origin of stacked brutals is a mystery. we have all heard tales of where they originated from....mostly beginnign with staff one in particular who i dont think is guilty of such acts. there are also told tales of anu supplying people with them from when he was EM with item create. the fact of the matter is. until there are logs no one really knows. we have all used stacked bruatls (myself included) but some people do get more then others. it would be a lie to say that you are not using stacked brutals anyone on this game that is above lvl 45 or so simply because everyone else is a reflection of this game. everyone plays as much as everyone else and there is that 'one' who cant get a nything and his level reflects it. its a matter of how you carry yourself. there are people i know who have stacked brutals that dont pk. there level is growing but they dont pk so they are not targetted in such threads as this one.

as far as items and so forth. all items are created. they dont just pop out of no where. some one is making them rather it be a hacker. staff. or one of tose all famous dupers. someone is just always more fortunate then others. same with USDing. although illegal USD is still done which puts people of younger ages (or people that just refuse to spend real money on a game) at a disadvantage as well. im still for a reset of kingdoms. naturally all players would be sad. especially the higher levels ones but i remember when GK made the transition from Graal 2002 Alpha and players were all week. it was alot more fun. there were alot more RP events such as wars and alot less PKing.

and just for the record i have seen Wren Aki nd Zoe all do low level maps on occasions although u see them in brutals most frequnet =X. me myself dont even do maps below between. i dont even do immenes anymore. but ya. GK is having balancing issues and it will continue to be that way til there is a reset. or until a level cap is put on and people cant get stronger then a certain point that way everyone can feel as though they have a cahcne to catch up to the higher level peopole. or until people work harder to get stronger. i came back to GK like 5 days ago. almost 6 now. back at lvl 20 phys. now im lvl 29 =X. i have goals and mind and i plan to set them. (mainly because i worship brigid and it puts me at an already disadvantage because i cant wield weapons. PS.[i t hink brigid worshippers should be able to wield weapons when they become strong enough to get her gloves. just an opinion])

but ya. hopefully alchemy coming out tomorrow will put people where they want to be. i know if i learn some essential recipes i will create and sell. im not gonna say its going to be cheap. but it will be affordable =D

and once again with another post. im sorry these are so long but i have been playing graal for longer then any of the people involved in this. the way i see it is. i just hit lvl 60 this morning. grant it i dont level all the time because when im on i usually try to socially to keep the game friendly. but it does take long to level unless u prepare and have the proper supplies. there are some amazing things going on like the dark sakura girl (nothing against her because she is definately working it out with the leveling :redface: ) but she has gained her levels quickly. and she is always outside of hirathia. her purpose i dont know im ot going to accuse her of anything :rolleyes: because when i go there sometimes she normally says how she has to run to another map location and i quote "you are really lucky or something because my maps are all over" that was in response to me saying how i had a few. (4 to be exact) brutals in hirathia. naturally everytime i came out the map she was still in hirathia below the planting pit :redface: . but once again im not pointing no fingers. its just a matter of life. sakura did say she was borrowing Huru's marks. and borrowing items has never been a sin. everytime i come back (except for htis last time) i find myself borrowing items to get back onto my feet. and Sakura also said this isnt her first account and i definately know about getting items transferred over (without staff help) ;) because i have had to do it myself. now as far as being someone else which she is often accused of its quite possible. but no one will be able to find out because some people are blessed to have a proxy ip address (which i need myself cause hackers are scareh! x_x )


now as far as gambet. i must agree that before alot of new things are added the old things should be completed....HINCE ALCHEMY. alchemy has been here forever. it is not nothing new. it is old. older then gods older then alot of things. u were around for random alchemy. when they took that away i almost cried =(. [off topic: my house died in samurai with all my random alchemy items. which it didnt cause now pmop sell for like uber items and i had 3 in my house and a couple of scale mails as well as two mithrils (one which actually sold for plat)] that was back during boukon ages if anyone remember that time period when my house was lost. but ya. alchemy is done. hopefully the next Old thing to be completed will be gods. but that is just wishful thinking because brigid is missing most of her spells and her resistances dont work and so forth. but ya. u know im not going to get into that.

but ya i do think. they could stand to have a few more admins on GK. because Jagen and Ben are there by themselves and both of them have alot to do as far as scripting. maybe they shouldnt even be like an admin. maybe more of a person like customer server. or human resources. that specifies on some of the topics at hand in this thread. such as harrassment. lost items. restoration of items and creation of iteems. it seems logical. someone to take the stress off of staffs hands simply because they have so much to do already. but on that same note. that would be alot cause i could imagine the power falling into the wrong hands. becoming an issue of extreme proportions. more items on the server and so forth. but that is more so an issue for stefan. i suggested something similar before to him on GK itself and he said it was a good idea but it never was followed up on and when ever u pm him he hits with the "Forum PM me please." which is another reason on its on to have like a human resource position on here. i couldnt imagine. alot less stressful. simply because when someone was scammed they could get to the bottom of it quickly and efficiently. NPC ate an item. bam they are right there to prove it and help you out. he he he. i like the sound of the person already. (thats just an idea for all you staff0rz on GK.)

all about the benjamins

Hmm... I do believe you have level4 on Debug yes Jon? Or at least full NC or so. And you seem to express that everything is done in the mudlib. GScript is still the medium between the client and the server, everything has to be broken down into something readable by the client at some point =/ There are still many things that can be done without at, as we've all done and seen before :(

*highfives*

Tec quit because me, Sliq, Waterlord, Bosh, and NY tortured him for having ****ing horrible grammar.

edit: Vamp, Mike, and afew other's helped out as well ;)


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Pertainning to this entire thread, -shrug-. I know basically everything that happens, exception being people's level's now adays. It's the same thing that has -always- happened, and always will so long as children are staff.

Now, I cannot say that I myself have seen Jagen make items for somebody if they a) did not deserve them (restore) or b) did not earn them. I have heard only rumors, nothing factual holding these rumors up.

People power-level, I can imagine people in Dustari give Zoe 10-20 bruts just to EA their gear... so, you can see how they would get brutals.

In regard's to the stacked maps? Simple, give Jagen a ****ing HUGE pile of immenses/brutals, he'll exchange them with stacked ones. It's simple.

Let's try to only say things that can be proven, or have some factual background. These rumors, and bashings are out of hand. It's threads like these that make GK stressful to play...


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On another note, Reiko, were you not chasing me down and pking me yesterday while I was trying to catch up with Ana? Hmm, how hypocritical.

My 2 cents:
1) Staff should not be held accountable to normal player standards, Unless you have actual logs , evidence etc. , screaming out staff is corrupt does nothing. IF you do have evidence , you should pm it to Stefan and not scream over forums "Waa theyz allobum coruptzed"
2) I have heard quite enough about Sagesuns and all the bashing that has been heaped on Zoe , Wren , Aki. I dont see anyone yelling amagad Wren has 220 level 1 maps and they all in Hirathia (this is true and she had saved and sorted them). Any idea how many different kinds of maps and brutals one can get that way by doing all of those level 1s? I have also observed Nayoko and Taikun close to or at level 100. I wont make any accusatory comments regarding how they got there because plainly stated, Its not my business and I dont care.
3) My suggestion for pk, purported harrassment etc. Make peace mode and battle mode experience gain equal. Lets suggest this to staff instead of complaining about being pked because this is a fact of life on Graal. wub Ana

What items? :whatever:
To Huru: Don't have to explain what in your inv, it's none of his buisness, let him think what he wants. O.o

Ummm he is staff you know, isn't illegal to have that damage? o.0

What more can be said? :)

Wow she only PKs people with no items. x_x
Poor Argo. :frown:

Blah, I can't be bother quoting all. Buut like I said, it was mainly bashing at Zoe, Wren and Sagesuns. Ah well it's a game, enjoy it. Even though there's tons of bashing/rumours, I'm not going to sit on my comp arguing about it all day. I did pay for my game, don't want to waste my cash on net verbal arguements. :whatever: So much drama to be a player, can't imagine how Lance/Jagen/Loriel feel.
Ah well, ce la vie!

Copycat! >_<


Can i a)Ask how a brigid follower managed to do that, and b)Ask how the average player managed to do that? The only answer to b i can think of is being handed about 50 brutals, because i know, being lvl24 phys myself, that it's taken me over 7 brutal maps just to get from lvl24 to 25, and i'm STILL not there yet =/

Players don't have access to the logs, so they can't get any evidence other than what they see/hear/screenshot. Would you prefer it if noone on GK were vigilant at all, so that the staff (even me omagad, even though i wouldnt want to) could just do as they pleased when they pleased with what powers they have?

Not enough to account for the insane levels, i should think. Do enlighten us with further details... o_O

I'm an event master. 32032 damage please. SLASH NOT