but what if someone just decides to ruin some levels (regardless of NPCs)? I guess it's not as big of a problem unless they have access to "important" ones (which I'm guessing "trusted" people should only have anyway), so nevermind -- I didn't read most of this before I posted :)

but wouldn't most people want to edit NPCs when they edit their levels, or no? a lot of levels that I've seen look almost (if not) identical for a long time, if they're accepted in the first place, and have mostly script changes .. I know it's not useless to add this ability, but I don't think it's going to replace people having to submit most of it, if that's even an intention

ahh, I should shush, I don't know what I'm typing anymore

Hmm, I see what you're saying, but this could really be useful for people who own player houses and just want to move a few chairs and such around. Maybe they could move the NPCs and just not edit them.

I think I'm just paranoid :D

I remember sometime in 1999 or 2000, a bunch of levels on the server were edited to the point where almost every main level was basically a "water world" with some mixed up blocking tiles which some players became stuck in/around, and the levels had to be reuploaded (I think NightLord did because he had FTP access, but I can't confirm that) .. does anyone else remember this?

What server would you be talking about?

the main server then, "classic" now

er, it changed again.. "Graal The Adventure"

I bet Stefan doesn't like us flooding every sticky topic that he makes >.< .

besides that and this post, it was still sort of related with the level editing feature :(

oh well, I'll try to stop posting about it

Tile editing: you activate some weapon script, see a panel on the right side, then you drag&drop the tiles on the ground in your playerworld. It would send a trigger to the server-side script which checks if you are allowed to change the tiles, and actually changes them, and saves them to hard disk so that the level file is actually changed, but only the tiles are changed, not the npcs.

Couldn't this be scripted with the technology we have now?

No, updateboard isn't serverside(I don't think).

I thought when you updateboard all players saw the changes.

!!

Aww! I know, You can't save the changes made to the levels with Graal's current ability.

Nah, I tried to script an NPC that surrounded target player with black tiles. It didn't work.

You people fail to read Stefan's posts

He has added updateboard serverside (it's on the Graal2002 Debug server only right now) and it does send the tile updates to the players but it doesn't save them right now

Personally I still believe in FTPing the levels after local updating :) For a server like Graal The Adventure online editing seems like too much of a security hazard, due to the potential destructive speed of corrupt staff, and also the chance that it might be cracked.

The setup file doesn't seem to be opening, when I click on it nothing happens...