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Crono 12-13-2006 04:28 PM

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What's your old account? Also tile errors.

Map looks good so far.

WanDaMan 12-13-2006 07:47 PM

Very impressive! Keep it up =D!

You're never on MSN either... lol

maximus_asinus 12-13-2006 11:12 PM

You're OneStonedKittah right?

Also, in my opinion, you have quite a bit of errors in your screenshot. The cliffing can be done with a different style, and would give the diagnol parts of the cliff a more fluid motion.

I also seen some tile errors (the majority of which were pointed out by Crono).

You're making some good progress, continue and show us your progress.

Devil 12-14-2006 12:41 AM

I like the start of it, keep it up.

Kittah 12-14-2006 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1253002)
What's your old account? Also tile errors.

Map looks good so far.

Old account is 'Pooka' - I searched for threads I'd started and saw some 4 year-old levels and lolled, I was such a n00b sometimes :D

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1253146)
You're OneStonedKittah right?

That I am - I feel special to be recognised :D

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Also, in my opinion, you have quite a bit of errors in your screenshot. The cliffing can be done with a different style, and would give the diagnol parts of the cliff a more fluid motion.
I'd be interesting to see an example so I can understand what you mean. The cliffs are a bit of a departure from my usual in that I'm going in sets of two if you can see what I mean. It does make them look somewhat more diagonal, but it means I don't have tile errors along the lines of what Crono pointed out (with the clifftop tiles not matching on one side, yet if it's changed to an alternative tile it doesn't match on the other side, with the solution being to use both in sets of two).

I've actually gone back and redone the double-level cliff joinings with the more correct tiles. I usually don't as I feel it makes it look a bit odd and (as I recall, though i could be mistaken) makes some cliff joins look odd, though I think I may have grown to actually like the look.

Anyway, update for the map with the sort of peninsula bit jutting out as a pointer for where I'm planning to dump a small island :)

maximus_asinus 12-14-2006 07:20 PM

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Your preview level retiled in the style I prefer. Is this how you usually tile your cliffs? This style gives the diagonal cliffing a more fluid motion, as I said earlier, plus it gives you more options when you're detailing a level (you can make nooks and crannies along the side of the cliff easier, etc).

Also Crono and a few others dislike this style of cliffing apparently, so don't listen to what they have to say ;)

Crono 12-14-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1253498)
Also Crono and a few others dislike this style of cliffing apparently, so don't listen to what they have to say ;)

It looks OK in that screenshot but a huge ass mountain stacked with those tiles is horribly ugly and can't see why anyone would disagree.

Luda 12-15-2006 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1253501)
It looks OK in that screenshot but a huge ass mountain stacked with those tiles is horribly ugly and can't see why anyone would disagree.

I find the other way more ugly x_x

Devil 12-15-2006 12:25 AM

I actually like those cliffs, anyone have a screenshot of the other way?

Chompy 12-15-2006 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1253610)
I actually like those cliffs, anyone have a screenshot of the other way?

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...5&d=1166014048

Devil 12-15-2006 12:40 AM

I don't see the difference between the top post of this page, and that link provided, unless I'm an idiot.

maximus_asinus 12-15-2006 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1253617)
I don't see the difference between the top post of this page, and that link provided, unless I'm an idiot.

The changes are quite obvious, so yes you are an idiot. Sorry.

Devil 12-15-2006 01:00 AM

Oh ok I see where, there is differences between the 2, in the middle of the cliffs where they join. =/

Who ****ing cares.

maximus_asinus 12-15-2006 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1253636)
Oh ok I see where, there is differences between the 2, in the middle of the cliffs where they join. =/

Who ****ing cares.

You still aren't seeing the bigger change.

Devil 12-15-2006 01:04 AM

Maybe I don't care :(

Crono 12-15-2006 02:19 AM

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The left side is the style I like, the right one is what max and luda are suggesting.

Honestly, which one looks better?

Kittah 12-15-2006 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1253498)
Your preview level retiled in the style I prefer. Is this how you usually tile your cliffs? This style gives the diagonal cliffing a more fluid motion, as I said earlier, plus it gives you more options when you're detailing a level (you can make nooks and crannies along the side of the cliff easier, etc).

Also Crono and a few others dislike this style of cliffing apparently, so don't listen to what they have to say ;)

That's exactly how I went back and redid the level as mentioned in my previous post ;)

They are the 'official' tiles for the job I suppose, though I'm not always sure on how they look. I think I'm with Crono in that for a single join they look quite good, though for anything larger it just wouldn't look right, far too repetitive in a contrasting way I think (the tiles are much lighter than the other method, so stand out repetitively).

Anyway, hopefully I'll have the coastal cliffwork finished tonight and perhaps some more of the inland cliffs laid out.

Devil 12-15-2006 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1253715)
The left side is the style I like, the right one is what max and luda are suggesting.

Honestly, which one looks better?

Ok sure, yes, I like the left better.

bgumeny 12-15-2006 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1253715)
The left side is the style I like, the right one is what max and luda are suggesting.

Honestly, which one looks better?

I think the left flows better, but the right one is nice when used tastefully like in the post at the top of this page. And Kittah your map looks pretty good so far, can't wait to see more progress.

And good luck in Japan, I had a Japanese roommate for a while and it was quite a difficult language to keep up with.




400th post, hooray?

Crono 12-15-2006 02:16 PM

If your cliff splits and your cliff is large it would look like the right one in the end. Classic has a perfect example of cliffing at it's ugliest (and yet proper) using those tiles. Thats why I'm against them, they are ugly.

Kittah 12-15-2006 04:07 PM

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Update!

Finished up the existing cliffs and coastlines. The plateau in the northeast will have at least another level or two added to it, likely with snow at the top.

Anyway enjoy :p

Crono 12-15-2006 04:29 PM

Looks good so far. Now let's see some detail. :cool:

maximus_asinus 12-15-2006 07:47 PM

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Err... one part of the cliff looks like it stops abruptly. See attachment.

WanDaMan 12-15-2006 08:27 PM

I really like it so far! are you planning this map or is it just random?

Kittah 12-16-2006 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1253954)
Err... one part of the cliff looks like it stops abruptly. See attachment.

Yeah, I noticed that after I said 'all of the cliff work is finished' but couldn't be bothered editing the post, it'll get done :)

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan (Post 1253968)
I really like it so far! are you planning this map or is it just random?

Thanks, it's kind of evolving as I go. If you remember the generated map had only 1/4 of it with water so that's a bit of a change. From there I'm just letting it grow how I like it. That's probably why I'll leave detailing until the end, as I don't like adding things in after I've detailed levels... it's not like it's more difficult so I guess it's just an odd habit of mine.

Devil 12-17-2006 02:10 AM

Yay more progress, I can't wait to see some towns.

Kittah 12-22-2006 07:49 AM

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Apologies for the lack of progress all, but you know how the leadup to Christmas is. I did finish that bit of cliffwork that maximus_asinus pointed out though!

WanDaMan 12-22-2006 08:45 AM

Woah, it's looking very nice! Keep it up!!

Crow 12-22-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1253715)
The left side is the style I like, the right one is what max and luda are suggesting.

Honestly, which one looks better?

The right one is cooler when you only use it for one row in your cliffs :o

maximus_asinus 12-22-2006 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1256164)
The right one is cooler when you only use it for one row in your cliffs :o

Exactly what I thought when I looked at the screenshot.

Crono 12-22-2006 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1256190)
Exactly what I thought when I looked at the screenshot.

But you did it on Classic -_-

Kittah 12-23-2006 10:14 AM

Island added. I may add another smaller one off to the side, though I'm not sure. I'm kind of starting to experience Leveller's Block as such, not being sure of what to add where... I guess I'll let it take me where/as it sees fit :)

Crono 12-23-2006 05:13 PM

Finish the foresting and get some detail done. I usually get ideas while im doing that for what to add later. Or under the cliff you can add a kind of beach or something.

syltburk 12-23-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kittah (Post 1256111)
Apologies for the lack of progress all, but you know how the leadup to Christmas is. I did finish that bit of cliffwork that maximus_asinus pointed out though!

it sucks, sorry but thats just IMO.

Mykel 12-24-2006 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by syltburk (Post 1256518)
it sucks, sorry but thats just IMO.

Which is weird considering it's better than anything I've ever seen you post. :o

Rapidwolve 12-24-2006 02:43 AM

Add Details now!! :)
I like it

Kittah 12-24-2006 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by syltburk (Post 1256518)
it sucks, sorry but thats just IMO.

Go away. You evidently have nothing better to do, but... just go away regardless.

You're the forum troll that manages to hang around, right? Grow up.

Crono 12-24-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kittah (Post 1256770)
You're the forum troll that manages to hang around, right? Grow up.

He used to be a LAT and doesn't really like anyone. I don't know what he does today.

Kittah 02-27-2007 10:41 AM

As always seems to happen, I was interrupted in my work. Suffice to say with moving into a new apartment (ie. not having internet access), starting a new job and having a baby due any week now I was rather side-tracked.

I've been doing a bit of doodling with it here and there however and there's a slight bit of progress... I'll post said progress when I get home. Unfortunately it's made me realise several problems I've created for myself over so long-term a project and I've started something new which will likely sidetrack me even moreso - but now I'm just babbling.

Kittah 09-11-2007 05:54 AM

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Considering the last time I updated a long-abandoned work someone told me I should bump the old thread, I figured I'd do it with this one. Update!


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