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Googi 08-16-2005 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad
just because I made more on graal then you probably made all year with a real life job

Haha, just how much money did you make?

Luigi1 08-16-2005 04:18 AM

"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" - Someone that I forgot who his name was

Brad 08-16-2005 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Luigi1
"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" - Someone that I forgot who his name was


So basically yeah, you're jealous

I made enough to live with no job for about a year. This was in my prime too googi. I'm a big spender too..go out to eat almost once a day. This was over a year ago..I've calmed down. People really think I only made like 300 bucks. lolz

Luigi1 08-16-2005 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad
So basically yeah, you're jealous

Incorrect. Why the hell would I be jealous of your lying "skill" (or the lack of skill, considering lying is easy enough to pull off)?

Googi 08-16-2005 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad
I made enough to live with no job for about a year. This was in my prime too googi. I'm a big spender too..go out to eat almost once a day. This was over a year ago..I've calmed down. People really think I only made like 300 bucks. lolz

BS. Even with cheating it's impossible to make more than 10,000 dollars.

Brad 08-16-2005 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Luigi1
Incorrect. Why the hell would I be jealous of your lying "skill" (or the lack of skill, considering lying is easy enough to pull off)?

You're jealous that I made a crapload of money and you weren' onboard the cash train. It's okay, not everyone is as cool as I am.


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Originally Posted by Googi
BS. Even with cheating it's impossible to make more than 10,000 dollars.

10 grand is alot. In a year I made enough to get by. With a little more. No numbers. Pm me for numbers.

Luigi1 08-16-2005 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad
You're jealous that I made a crapload of money and you weren' onboard the cash train. It's okay, not everyone is as cool as I am.

You egomaniacs are funny as hell.

Brad 08-16-2005 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Luigi1
You egomaniacs are funny as hell.


You jealous whiners are fun too :D!!

Luigi1 08-16-2005 04:46 AM

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Brad 08-16-2005 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Luigi1
Apparently you fail to read "jealous? Incorrect" two times in normal text.
So I will say it numerous times in big, bold, ugly red text.

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someone ban him he is spamming :(


if you're not jealous you got no reason to hate. I earned all my items legit.

Googi 08-16-2005 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad
In a year I made enough to get by. With a little more. No numbers. Pm me for numbers.

Yeah, I saw the numbers before you edited. They were more believable, but less impressive. When you said "live with no job for about a year" you kind of implied "live with no job for about a year away from my parents". With your parents it's kind of less impressive. I mean, I made zero dollars last year aside from gifts which I didn't spend, and I made enough money to get by for a year because that's pretty easy when, you know, you don't have to pay for anything.

Anyways, yeah. You still did pretty well. It would be really impressive had it been obtained through some kind of mad skill rather than cheating.

Nappa 08-16-2005 04:51 AM

I made around 800 dollars and I didn't even sell anything that great. I can only imagine what some people are making.

Luigi1 08-16-2005 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad
if you're not jealous you got no reason to hate. I earned all my items legit.

You earned your most of your items legit the very first time. That's excluding at least the con+1 HSoD that Jagen /create'd for you, as that isn't a legitimate method of obtaining items. Then you USD'ed them off, and quit for a long time. Now, you've returned, and lied about the fate of the items you had before so you could get them restored.

Draenin 08-16-2005 12:35 PM

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I have a job that could earn me anything I could ever possibly want to USD. But does that mean I do it? No. Because it's stupid. When I ask people how much they're selling their stuff for, they give me prices of at least around $200 for a mega-cool item with +1 AC, a bonus, and neat 32x32 icons to go with them. Because I make 1.2k per month USD doesn't mean I'm gonna go blow it. I'd rather be out buying stuff like books for college, my car, paying for living expenses, getting games or comp. parts for myself or others, etc. Sorry that 'jealous' people like me use their money on better things in life rather than using mommy and daddy's credit card to USD information that can easily be wiped in no time flat.

Brad 08-16-2005 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
I have a job that could earn me anything I could ever possibly want to USD. But does that mean I do it? No. Because it's stupid. When I ask people how much they're selling their stuff for, they give me prices of at least around $200 for a mega-cool item with +1 AC, a bonus, and neat 32x32 icons to go with them. Because I make 1.2k per month USD doesn't mean I'm gonna go blow it. I'd rather be out buying stuff like books for college, my car, paying for living expenses, getting games or comp. parts for myself or others, etc. Sorry that 'jealous' people like me use their money on better things in life rather than using mommy and daddy's credit card to USD information that can easily be wiped in no time flat.


hey stupid i never bought anything

the jealous people are the ones not making any cash

and guy i never cheated it was proven my items were taken by staff guy

plz reseerch b4 u h8

Draenin 08-16-2005 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad
the jealous people are the ones not making any cash
plz reseerch b4 u h8

But you were selling right? That would make you previously without extra money, right? That would make you fit the jealous category.

Spiker 08-16-2005 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
I have a job that could earn me anything I could ever possibly want to USD. But does that mean I do it? No. Because it's stupid. When I ask people how much they're selling their stuff for, they give me prices of at least around $200 for a mega-cool item with +1 AC, a bonus, and neat 32x32 icons to go with them. Because I make 1.2k per month USD doesn't mean I'm gonna go blow it. I'd rather be out buying stuff like books for college, my car, paying for living expenses, getting games or comp. parts for myself or others, etc. Sorry that 'jealous' people like me use their money on better things in life rather than using mommy and daddy's credit card to USD information that can easily be wiped in no time flat.

I love you, NEW SIGGY, can i use it Draenin

oh, btw draenin, the raffle tickets are fixed, so we dont have to eat you any more!!! !pissed! !pissed! !pissed! !pissed! !pissed!

Draenin 08-16-2005 06:53 PM

o_o Kay.

Brad 08-16-2005 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
But you were selling right? That would make you previously without extra money, right? That would make you fit the jealous category.


wrong, i never complained about people selling. I also started playing when the server opened therefore there was no one before me. VICTORY@!#!@

busyrobot 08-18-2005 04:48 AM

To throw in my 2 cents, in a pure practical sense it is more rational to spend $50 on a 36 x 36 pixel icon if it results in increased entertainment that you enjoy for several days, than say $50 on expensive food and beer. At least you can sell the item and make your money back when you are done. Chris said it best.

That said, food and beer ftw.

While I understand why people buy and sell for USD (it takes me less than 2 hrs of work in life to make $50, and a WHOLE lot more grinding that is no fun at all to get it in game) I have to say I am dead set against USDing for a number of reasons.

1) It ruins competition.
If you play a game that has pvp conflicts, when you know your opponent has deep pockets, no matter how many weeks you work hard to get better items in game, they can throw anything they like at you by spending 15 minutes making a USD trade.

What is the point of even having in game competitive elements if there is a "win" button you can't beat?


2) It devastates the ingame economy. Every item that goes into USD circulation takes that item out of the game economy, pushing the value way up.
People like money.
If they can take an offer of USD vs an offer of ingame currency, and once USD is on the table as an option, you have to throw waaaay more in game currency at the seller for it to be worth his while to sell it in game instead.

I dispise the practice, and "professional" USDers especially. That said I understand why some people would choose to be parasites and why and some people would spend money on USD items.

Ziro_of_the_Turks 08-22-2005 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
To throw in my 2 cents, in a pure practical sense it is more rational to spend $50 on a 36 x 36 pixel icon if it results in increased entertainment that you enjoy for several days, than say $50 on expensive food and beer. At least you can sell the item and make your money back when you are done. Chris said it best.

That said, food and beer ftw.

While I understand why people buy and sell for USD (it takes me less than 2 hrs of work in life to make $50, and a WHOLE lot more grinding that is no fun at all to get it in game) I have to say I am dead set against USDing for a number of reasons.

1) It ruins competition.
If you play a game that has pvp conflicts, when you know your opponent has deep pockets, no matter how many weeks you work hard to get better items in game, they can throw anything they like at you by spending 15 minutes making a USD trade.

What is the point of even having in game competitive elements if there is a "win" button you can't beat?


2) It devastates the ingame economy. Every item that goes into USD circulation takes that item out of the game economy, pushing the value way up.
People like money.
If they can take an offer of USD vs an offer of ingame currency, and once USD is on the table as an option, you have to throw waaaay more in game currency at the seller for it to be worth his while to sell it in game instead.

I dispise the practice, and "professional" USDers especially. That said I understand why some people would choose to be parasites and why and some people would spend money on USD items.

I'd rather get beer and GK items.

Anyoo, I'm glad you didn't just leave it at "omigawsh buying a pixel picz0r lelaawls idiotz".

I think at least one person stated such a thing since I made my previous post on this thread. You're paying for fun as busyrobot said. It's almost the same as paying for a game as I stated earlier. In fact, it might even be considered the same. It's quite simple; most people don't find fun in starting off, having to smash rocks with your feet, spending time to get a pickaxe, then crafting a weapon. Even if you're given items, you have a long way to go before you can compete with the majority of the players. That's probably what the real game is. Who RP's anyways? The kingdom of Zormite that doesn't even have a real place to stay anymore because they were eaten by a Dustari-clone army?

Brad, I don't know your numbers of what you earned, but I think I understood what you meant. You made enough money to pay off all your costs of fun an leisure for a year. While living with parents may take care of the necessities- especially at older ages, it doesn't necessarily cover the expenses of having a good time :)

Googi 08-22-2005 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks
The kingdom of Zormite that doesn't even have a real place to stay anymore because they were eaten by a Dustari-clone army?

More like Karakaze-clone army.

Nitkizi 08-22-2005 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
While I understand why people buy and sell for USD (it takes me less than 2 hrs of work in life to make $50, and a WHOLE lot more grinding that is no fun at all to get it in game) I have to say I am dead set against USDing for a number of reasons.


Where do you work that you make $25/hr.? And can I get a job there?

Ziro_of_the_Turks 08-22-2005 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitkizi
Where do you work that you make $25/hr.? And can I get a job there?


I'm a hustler, I'm a I'm a hustler homey


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