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Xcessive54321 03-27-2005 06:42 PM

lol i think my sig should work now

Lance 03-27-2005 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fexii
I'm not here to say that I know exactly what goes on behind the forums, I was agreeing with Darlene that Kai couldn't pass judgment on her position. And how are you all so sure that the forum doesn't change?

And how are you so sure that it does!!!

Can you yet provide some examples? Further, can you show how these examples change the fundamentals of moderation?

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Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not happening.
Kaimetsu and I both spend an inordinate amount of time at this forum. Just what is there that we can't see?

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I only came to this forum a few weeks ago and already I've influenced things that happen, or we wouldn't have this discussion.
You posted something doofy, causing others to call you on it. What exactly is that influencing other than people's opinion of you?

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A grain of rice tips the scale, and if every person on this forum is a grain of rice, then you can't tell me that nobody joined the forums since Kai left as supermod.
You must really enjoy non sequitur.

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As small a community as it may be, as long as there are new and possibly radical people, lot's of things do change.
Like what?

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And I don't even have to identify these people because every person that enters the forum influences it in some way or another, changing the "fundamentals" of moderation.
How? You're justifying a claim that things change by saying that things change. Stop begging the question.

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And even if there is little change I don't see reason to call moderators lazy. Lazy is a judgment on somebody's personality, not their work.
You surely cannot be serious. Look it up, dude.

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As a programmer I understand that a lot of work goes unnoticed on the inside but rather the faults on the outside stand out much more. You can't call a programmer lazy just because he hasn't done anything that you can see, for all you know he's been working on the program day and night. I'm not proving that this is necessarily true in the case of this forum, but to call a moderator lazy without knowing everything that goes on is unfair.
As Kaimetsu said, he can judge them based upon what he does see. There is enough that he has seen that they have not done (and, in some cases, something they have done that they should not have) for him to be able to do so.

Xcessive54321 03-28-2005 03:17 AM

lol to many post lol does sig work on classic servers?

fexii 03-28-2005 03:34 AM

thanks lance, i dont need to hear you repeat yourself over.

Yea the signature should work on every server you go to. There's no way to fix the "server is lagging" part, even in Loriel's script, it's just the graal page taking too long to download.

Lance 03-28-2005 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fexii
thanks lance, i dont need to hear you repeat yourself over.

So you refuse, then, to justify your claims? How dull.

fexii 03-28-2005 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance
So you refuse, then, to justify your claims? How dull.

I refuse to continue to contradict your vicious dissection of every post I make. If you devote yourself to graal forums then so be it, but I have my own ambitions more worthwhile to handle than argue points against people I don't and never will know. You might find this important, but Graal is not my life and I really don't care what the outcome of your arguing is. My signature script is constructive and will help me practice my programming skills for later in life, if you want to comment on it then please do so, otherwise leave the topic on track.

hottstuff911 03-29-2005 04:52 AM

thanks too all who helped me get the sig that shows if i'm on or not. :)

fexii 03-29-2005 05:09 AM

lol well if that script ever stops workin you're welcome to try mine ^^

Kaimetsu 03-29-2005 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fexii
My signature script is constructive and will help me practice my programming skills for later in life

While debating allows you to develop much-needed thinking skills.

fexii 03-29-2005 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
While debating allows you to develop much-needed thinking skills.

Undeniably, but I'd rather debate over my real-life concerns than petty issues i'm rather unknowledgable upon. I'm not blaming anybody for debating at all, it's rather constructive, just becoming too much of a hassle to keep maintaining when I have little interest. Not to mention it's far from the original purpose of this topic.

Kaimetsu 03-29-2005 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fexii
Undeniably, but I'd rather debate over my real-life concerns than petty issues i'm rather unknowledgable upon

You are not confident enough to support your statements, but you are confident enough to make them? Not a very sensible policy.

fexii 03-29-2005 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
You are not confident enough to support your statements, but you are confident enough to make them? Not a very sensible policy.

I gave you my supporting evidence repeatedly, which I still hold to be true. You and Lance turn this into a game of words more than addressing my point. Stop throwing my questions back at me and get to what you think. I say it's unfair to call moderators lazy because you don't know what they do. There's no possible way you could be 100% sure that you know everything that goes on, despite however much you know, even if you know 99% of the story. If you can't get to this point and want to keep weeding out specific phrases that look weak and avoid the main idea of my argument then I'm fighting against a machine and not a human. I expect my ideas to be heard, not each individual part of my sentence to be analyzed.

I want you to TELL me HOW you could possibly know EXACTLY what's happening, and how what you do know is enough to create the conclusion that ALL moderators are lazy due to unexcusable issues. Unless you live with the moderators, I'm afraid you can't possibly support that. I'd bet many of these people you are accusing of laziness you have never even seen a picture of, although I wouldn't know.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
Actually, what I was saying is that you cant see what I do in forum PM's or whatever, so you cannot say what I do and dont do...

Here's a nice place for you to start.


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