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Projectshifter 09-18-2004 05:00 AM

Hmm... I do believe you have level4 on Debug yes Jon? Or at least full NC or so. And you seem to express that everything is done in the mudlib. GScript is still the medium between the client and the server, everything has to be broken down into something readable by the client at some point =/ There are still many things that can be done without at, as we've all done and seen before :(

Splke 09-18-2004 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
*Cough i have a cold Cough*

*highfives*

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Originally Posted by foxyrain
I remember that is why Tec finally quit the game because he was tired of the false accusations.

Tec quit because me, Sliq, Waterlord, Bosh, and NY tortured him for having ****ing horrible grammar.

edit: Vamp, Mike, and afew other's helped out as well ;)


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Pertainning to this entire thread, -shrug-. I know basically everything that happens, exception being people's level's now adays. It's the same thing that has -always- happened, and always will so long as children are staff.

Now, I cannot say that I myself have seen Jagen make items for somebody if they a) did not deserve them (restore) or b) did not earn them. I have heard only rumors, nothing factual holding these rumors up.

People power-level, I can imagine people in Dustari give Zoe 10-20 bruts just to EA their gear... so, you can see how they would get brutals.

In regard's to the stacked maps? Simple, give Jagen a ****ing HUGE pile of immenses/brutals, he'll exchange them with stacked ones. It's simple.

Let's try to only say things that can be proven, or have some factual background. These rumors, and bashings are out of hand. It's threads like these that make GK stressful to play...


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On another note, Reiko, were you not chasing me down and pking me yesterday while I was trying to catch up with Ana? Hmm, how hypocritical.

Mousefuzz 09-18-2004 08:08 AM

My 2 cents:
1) Staff should not be held accountable to normal player standards, Unless you have actual logs , evidence etc. , screaming out staff is corrupt does nothing. IF you do have evidence , you should pm it to Stefan and not scream over forums "Waa theyz allobum coruptzed"
2) I have heard quite enough about Sagesuns and all the bashing that has been heaped on Zoe , Wren , Aki. I dont see anyone yelling amagad Wren has 220 level 1 maps and they all in Hirathia (this is true and she had saved and sorted them). Any idea how many different kinds of maps and brutals one can get that way by doing all of those level 1s? I have also observed Nayoko and Taikun close to or at level 100. I wont make any accusatory comments regarding how they got there because plainly stated, Its not my business and I dont care.
3) My suggestion for pk, purported harrassment etc. Make peace mode and battle mode experience gain equal. Lets suggest this to staff instead of complaining about being pked because this is a fact of life on Graal. wub Ana

meishanli 09-18-2004 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
The time you use speaking with huru and aki, you could use to be improving the server. Why do i mention huru and aki? (nothing against them of course), well, simply because they seem to "magically" get items, and with that, i end my post.

What items? :whatever:
To Huru: Don't have to explain what in your inv, it's none of his buisness, let him think what he wants. O.o

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Originally Posted by Gambet
*cough When i went inside one of them Jagen said he would leave Zormite (i was in Dustari so he couldnt kill me) and he was going to PK me with his sword which gives him 32032 damage, and i also have a screenie of his profile showing that amount of damage cough*

Ummm he is staff you know, isn't illegal to have that damage? o.0

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Originally Posted by Splke
Let's try to only say things that can be proven, or have some factual background. These rumors, and bashings are out of hand. It's threads like these that make GK stressful to play....

What more can be said? :)

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Originally Posted by Splke
On another note, Reiko, were you not chasing me down and pking me yesterday while I was trying to catch up with Ana? Hmm, how hypocritical.

Wow she only PKs people with no items. x_x
Poor Argo. :frown:

Blah, I can't be bother quoting all. Buut like I said, it was mainly bashing at Zoe, Wren and Sagesuns. Ah well it's a game, enjoy it. Even though there's tons of bashing/rumours, I'm not going to sit on my comp arguing about it all day. I did pay for my game, don't want to waste my cash on net verbal arguements. :whatever: So much drama to be a player, can't imagine how Lance/Jagen/Loriel feel.
Ah well, ce la vie!

Monkeyboy_McGee 09-18-2004 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TeRRi2k
*cough real cold cough*

Copycat! >_<


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Originally Posted by Taharu
i came back to GK like 5 days ago. almost 6 now. back at lvl 20 phys. now im lvl 29 =X.

Can i a)Ask how a brigid follower managed to do that, and b)Ask how the average player managed to do that? The only answer to b i can think of is being handed about 50 brutals, because i know, being lvl24 phys myself, that it's taken me over 7 brutal maps just to get from lvl24 to 25, and i'm STILL not there yet =/

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Originally Posted by Mousefuzz
My 2 cents:
1) Staff should not be held accountable to normal player standards, Unless you have actual logs , evidence etc. , screaming out staff is corrupt does nothing. IF you do have evidence , you should pm it to Stefan and not scream over forums "Waa theyz allobum coruptzed"

Players don't have access to the logs, so they can't get any evidence other than what they see/hear/screenshot. Would you prefer it if noone on GK were vigilant at all, so that the staff (even me omagad, even though i wouldnt want to) could just do as they pleased when they pleased with what powers they have?

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Originally Posted by Mousefuzz
2)Wren has 220 level 1 maps and they all in Hirathia (this is true and she had saved and sorted them). Any idea how many different kinds of maps and brutals one can get that way by doing all of those level 1s?

Not enough to account for the insane levels, i should think. Do enlighten us with further details... o_O

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Originally Posted by meishanli
Ummm he is staff you know, isn't illegal to have that damage? o.0

I'm an event master. 32032 damage please. SLASH NOT

Gambet 09-18-2004 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by meishanli
Ummm he is staff you know, isn't illegal to have that damage? o.0


You think it's legal to give yourself that much damage and then go around trying to pk players? It's called corruption, aki.

To the note that you quoted what the other guy said about lets base things on what we can proove:

Can you not read what i said? I have screenies and ive already sent them to a few people. I would post it on the forums but Jagen would have them removed just because he doesnt want the players to know how corrupt he is.

xAndrewx 09-18-2004 08:08 PM

No offence, But can't we all just play the game and worry about ourself and not our enemys?.
If you see them just pk them, If they want to spread some bull**** of you abusing ask them for the log, They produce nothing. Just pk :D

GoZelda 09-18-2004 08:58 PM

Y'know what's odd... Even if Jagen was corrupt, aki or whomever needn't defend themselves nor Jagen. He gave them free stuff; well that's not their fault. But for some odd reasons they defend themselves (and Jagen) as if though they have a guilty mind.

Projectshifter 09-19-2004 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Y'know what's odd... Even if Jagen was corrupt, aki or whomever needn't defend themselves nor Jagen. He gave them free stuff; well that's not their fault. But for some odd reasons they defend themselves (and Jagen) as if though they have a guilty mind.

There is nothing anyone can do anymore. It's just a big game of politics unfortunately. I need to sit and do some serious thinking. Things have gotten way out of hand...

Mousefuzz 09-19-2004 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Y'know what's odd... Even if Jagen was corrupt, aki or whomever needn't defend themselves nor Jagen. He gave them free stuff; well that's not their fault. But for some odd reasons they defend themselves (and Jagen) as if though they have a guilty mind.

Jagen is a Sagesun ,kthxbai

Monkeyboy_McGee 09-19-2004 01:44 PM

Poor ProjectShifter, you should just get together with whoever is still decent and try as hard as you can to make stefan stop being so passive :frown:

Googi 09-19-2004 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
*cough Has screenies of a certain staff *cough Jagen cough* using the magical createitem command, then summoning aki, and giving her 10 stacked brutals cough*

Let's see it, then.

Splke 09-19-2004 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Y'know what's odd... Even if Jagen was corrupt, aki or whomever needn't defend themselves nor Jagen. He gave them free stuff; well that's not their fault. But for some odd reasons they defend themselves (and Jagen) as if though they have a guilty mind.

The accusations are directly effecting them, and their friend. If I were to say.. your stupid, and your a foreigner, I imagine you, among other foreigner's would join hands and take up a part in defending those two things I addressed.

This is not so different, it is a direct accusation of corruption, therein addressing Sagesun, Akira, and many other players of willingly accepting and knowing of the corruption. Would you not defend yourself, and Jagen if these accusation's involved you?

Sidenote: You don't have logs proving anything, you don't have screenies, all you do is say you have them to try to seem important and cool. Your arbitrary arguement is not welcome, nor apreciated. Let's hope this thread is closed, as the topic has been changed from "problems" to "amg Jagenz corupt".


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