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DeCeaseD 03-24-2012 10:46 AM

I've gotta say that system is really cool, just wondering exactly how you accomplished it? If you're willing to explain of course! :P

Tricxta 03-24-2012 10:51 AM

I'd also be interested to know. Does it involve tile layers and detecting different layers onwall?

Devil_Lord2 03-24-2012 11:08 AM

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I will tell everyone once it is released... It is slow to create but easy I suppose... I will say it doesn't involve tile layers or onwall though... I wouldn't know how to do either of those. :'[

However, I can say I made new grass, and when you see it you will shyt bricks. ;D

Not intentional.


Preview of some of them used.
I think they fit well..
Basically grass dying..

Devil_Lord2 03-31-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2 (Post 1687265)
Once again, I don't have that much time in a day to work on it, so I estimate by the end of this month the intro should be completed alpha phase.

I then have to find people to go in, test for bugs and try to screw things up. >_<


Well, it is the end of the month, time for an update...
The start of the intro is basically completed. Images are needed and an easteregg will be put in later... However, I'm just now starting on the old intro renovating it.

The intro will be able to be continued in sections on player reconnection, as well as the whole intro can be re-seen at any time the player chooses to go back and see it.

(You won't be able to see any of this yet until it is finished.)
I am not sure if anyone took the original intro down however, but I will not give a completion date since I don't want to lie or misinform. However I am working on it still. :]

I think it looks great so far..

Devil_Lord2 04-02-2012 09:39 AM

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Updates:

"So you think you can LAT" contest:

Well, all the levels are ready, anyone can watch the contest.
Only those with the rights can edit or their own levels.

You cannot select from other players levels but you can see theirs.
I just need to work on getting some kind of staff boots to use,
and have it not trigger the hacking system for those without a
tag. (Boots may not happen)

Also, I'd like to quickly fix the cliffs.
Other than that, all should be ready.



Shaded Staff Team:

We also have a new NAT and GAT, both are pretty
good, so I'm excited to share that with you all. ^.^;

Piggy the new GAT created a few animals as well
as some other things in sprite form. They are fine
for now, but will be hopefully fixed later.

Thyme Cypher fixed up the inventory system in ten
minutes, so it can close smoothly allowing you to walk
afterwards, as well as being able to use the arrow keys.

He also fixed the following in the petsystem that I could
not do. I will still have to recreate a movement system
that uses onblock.



--------



So you think you can LAT? (Shaded Legends contest)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5KPQ1-wTck
No Offline Editor Required.
No Experience Required.
No Gold is Required.

Applicant Information:

So far there are 18 applicants.
Tomorrow is the last day to apply.
Contestants are picked on the 3rd
(Contest starts April 4th!!)

Apply at:
http://shadedlegends.webs.com/application
Shaded Website:
http://www.facebook.com/ShadedLegends

Felix_Xenophobe 04-02-2012 10:59 AM

Wtf more applicants than active gk players

Devil_Lord2 04-02-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1690779)
Wtf more applicants than active gk players

The reason I've only said anything 1 day before the actual contest on here is because I don't find the Graal community on PC or this forums as all that kind. Even the ones who help people on here tend to bully people a lot.

So yes, I must admit, every applicant is from Facebook or Graalians, and it isn't expected that any are actually good. That is find though since I hope to teach many of them and pick the best six. From there I hope to continue to teach them..

It is basically a once in a lifetime opportunity where you have the chance to be hired without experience on a server I believe is going somewhere legitimately and not just hiring anybody willy nilly.

They will get to learn from each other as well. :D

It says 43 people are going to the facebook event, but I'm not exactly sure why they clicked going. :/ Only 18 have filled out the application correctly if at all.

Felix_Xenophobe 04-02-2012 02:48 PM

Wat are u talking about the pc community is mad friendly. Are u blazed?

Devil_Lord2 04-02-2012 02:59 PM

I must be blazed every time I go into a forum thread or classic server. :]
Classic servers are the only place you can be made fun of or cursed at for just being in the room. Not to mention the staff do not care, they usually help. But who knows, maybe the staff have changed since 3 months ago.

Felix_Xenophobe 04-02-2012 03:05 PM

Im just messing wit u br0 relax

Devil_Lord2 04-02-2012 03:16 PM

Updates:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1690802)
Im just messing wit u br0 relax

No problem, I must take a shower, shave, and get ready to drive to campus. D: Rushing a little bit.

Would you like to know anything about Shaded Legends while I still have you?
Sadly staff communication is not too great right now so I'm not too sure what is finished or not.. I'll get to that after the contest. :]

The intro is 1/2 completed.. the knew scenes are finished, a few images need to be added as well as the easteregg fixed "Not needed so I didn't finish it", and the old intro part needs to be revamped still.

The inventory system is so much better now thanks to Thyme Cypher, and the events I believe are completed excluding three.

Not quite sure the money systems are up to par yet "If they are the axe is out of stock at the store". And finally the pet system is 1 step closer to being finished. ^.^ I will eventually get onto an onwall movement system... Or try to use the default system. >.>;;

Haven't touched that thing in months! Thyme fixed the following though.. not sure how yet.



If you'd like to know more feel free to ask! I'm done eating, time to shower!

geneticfrog 04-02-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1690800)
Wat are u talking about the pc community is mad friendly. Are u blazed?

how is being blaze bad???

weed = good

Felix_Xenophobe 04-02-2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneticfrog (Post 1690810)
how is being blaze bad???

weed = good

br0

Devil_Lord2 04-02-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneticfrog (Post 1690810)
how is being blaze bad???

weed = good

True, Marijuana is the least addicting, causes the least amount of problems, and Hemp can be used as a material to create a lot of things but that does not make it good. (Depends on your definition of good) It lowers your IQ, temporarily, a good amount unless you use it often. Short term use the effects are less permanent, however long term use your IQ can/will stay down.

Chronic use is also associated with an increase rate of schizophrenia, anxiety, and even depression... That and other mental illnesses.

I don't support any drugs however, and that includes cigarettes, cigars, alcohol, and I try to not use medications if I do not have to.







Anyway, putting that aside, is it alright that we stay on topic? :]
Because Shaded Legends is amazing. :D

Felix_Xenophobe 04-02-2012 05:32 PM

u had a cig in ur hand in pictures thread woah br0.

Devil_Lord2 04-02-2012 06:19 PM

A few updates:



I added the back to front view during an accidental messing around.
I like it but it looks like I'll need to make it wider. :[

Main image by Piggy our new GAT and now GAT Admin.



Thyme Cyphers inventory fix:



Shaded Legends "So you think you can LAT" Contest:


I don't know how to record in HD, these videos quality don't look great. :[

Galdor 04-02-2012 07:11 PM

The cow was funny ^^

Devil_Lord2 04-02-2012 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galdor (Post 1690835)
The cow was funny ^^

It surely needs some work, but it is good for now, and I'm fascinated. :]
Cujo wants to make them ride-able. Might be able to be milked too..

Then someone asked if you could kill them for leather and / or meat. :[
Not sure about all that lol..

Hopefully in the future, no where near soon, the jagged lines will be fixed, I'll get the back looking better, and the legs will look more real. Until then it should stay this way. ^.^

CujoDaMan 04-03-2012 01:59 AM

If anyone here can Gani we could use your help gratefully, if you do gani and are intrested please let one of us know.

Loakey_P2P 04-03-2012 07:27 PM

i can, oh **** no i cant .

Devil_Lord2 04-04-2012 12:30 AM

LAT Contest is starting early since everyone has rights, everyone can login to see them work. One opening is free for someone to send in an app. :]

Come on to Shaded Legends and say /latcontest to check out everyone's work so far.

Devil_Lord2 04-05-2012 04:42 PM

Hirings:

We are now hiring NATs, GATs, Ganis, Sounds, and LATs.
(Can no longer join the LAT Contest)

The only application we have currently is the NAT application.
(See "Shaded Legends (NAT Application) )
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...63#post1691163

If you would like to apply for the rest, send the best of your work to [email protected]

Also, to become levels you must send in four of your best levels, and if they are good I will send you a small assignment to see if you may become LAT.

------------
Shaded Legends "So you think you can LAT?" contest:

I'll keep updates on the contest in another thread.
Also, I've uploaded a video of the pet system and would like feedback.
(See post Shaded Legends (Pet System) )
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...61#post1691161

MattKan 04-09-2012 05:33 AM

I don't understand why you had to fill out an application for the LAT contest. It could have been fun for some people to log in and make a level to impress everybody, but they have to fill an out? Turn off.

Devil_Lord2 04-09-2012 08:01 AM

Fill one out, yes. This is so we get to know the people a little more, and I can ask a few questions durring the contest.

This is a recruiting process for Shaded Legends since we do not have any LATs.
(If they win, they will have the chance to accept becoming LAT and learn further.)

They are also beta testing my type1 tileset, as well as giving ideas for using this as an event in the future. :]

I'd like to switch all new upcoming levels to type1.. shhh. ;D

Devil_Lord2 04-12-2012 11:28 PM

Got no strings on me.
 
"I've got no strings
To hold me down
To make me fret, or make me frown
I had strings
But now I'm free
There are no strings on me." -Pinocchio

Sadly Loakey has decided to no longer work on Shaded Legends unofficially.
Where as that is sad, I will be revamping a lot more and ditching the old quests.

Emera has left us as well due to being busy on other servers.
He did semi make us a staff tool so that was good.
I will no longer be hiring players of other servers.
(Don't get me wrong, they can still help.)

Shaded Legends will work in seasons... 5 main quests for season 1, other short subquests between seasons. Semi like Mabinogi.

There will be more changes too but the content will stay the same.

Devil_Lord2 04-16-2012 06:42 AM

4 days later:

What some of us have been working on.

Piggy - Created 2 heads, 2 bodies for our new system upcoming.
She also created a cow, throwing-stars, a bird, and possibly some baddies.

Bayne - He isn't a LAT but he has been helping create levels, also listed all the levels that have npcs (showcharacters) for a future organizing scheme I have.

Shurikan hasn't been on lately, he has created a log for us to use in the intro.

Askew - Our new LAT has been doing quest levels with Bayne. Recruited via the contest before it ends.

M!ke - Our new Gani artist and possible Gani Admin created four ganis for the cow. Ride, on, off, idle2 (while riden)

Thyme - Creating layers in OLE, new MUD system, Staff Assignments with SQL and GUI I believe.

David K? </3 (Management) - Staff system to delete the other 33?
I also use many of these commands in developing and I'm sure some may also in the future... as a Mac user I edit scripts and ganis via RC. Levels online too..

[These will hopefully be unnecessary when finished.]
-BB/SwearFilter [Need to add this?]
-Block
-TileFinder
-CujoTool
-nico/Jail
-nico/Staff
-Staff/StaffListGetter
-Staff/Tool
-Staff/Tool2
-Staff/Warping
-Staff_Main
-Staff_Main_Jail
-System/Jail
-System/LoginMessage
-System/Main
-System/Warn
-ZeroGWarp
Cujo/TileFinder
Cujo/OnWaterCheck
Emera/Staff
Emera/StaffTool
Emera/Warning
jaytestdrag
Police/Tool
Police/Warn
Staff/AdminTool
Staff/Assigments
Staff/BaddySpawn
Staff/dksystem
Staff/FullEverything
Staff/Guild Setter
Staff/Police Tool
Staff/ZeroGSummon


It saves the levels now.
The boots didn't work I believe because of the other staff system.
So far I think the only things that do not work are the LAY npcs, Assignments, and X, Y, W, H for level linking of in || boxes.

Devil_Lord2 04-19-2012 08:03 AM

We are currently having problems with:

Level saved: shaded_k09.nw
Level saved: shaded_i09.nw
Level saved: shaded_t09.nw
Level saved: shaded_l09.nw
Level saved: shaded_n09.nw
Level saved: shaded_s09.nw
Level saved: shaded_q09.nw
Level saved: shaded_v09.nw
Level saved: shaded_r09.nw
Level saved: shaded_u09.nw
Level saved: shaded_p09.nw
Level saved: shaded_o09.nw
Level saved: shaded_j09.nw
Level saved: shaded_m09.nw
Level saved: shaded_k09.nw
Level saved: shaded_i09.nw

.... An undo feature to the OLE would have been nice. Have to wait for someone to reupload the levels. I left a level not knowing it was somehow dragging or selecting? and selected / clicked over quite a few levels.

"That isn't even the worst problem" The layers section is currently corrupted, so I can't remake the levels or even place anything on them.

So if you get on, expect a mess until Loakey or Cujo shows up.

Devil_Lord2 04-30-2012 02:49 AM

LAT Contest is being extended two weeks due to finals. :[
You all have an extra two weeks for those who are in it.

Won't be ending tomorrow.


-Edit-
Oh yeah, we had backups, levels were all fixed shortly after.
As Asst Manager, I feel it is my duty to keep backups as well.

Devil_Lord2 05-03-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2 (Post 1693352)
LAT Contest is being extended two weeks due to finals. :[
You all have an extra two weeks for those who are in it.

Won't be ending tomorrow.


-Edit-
Oh yeah, we had backups, levels were all fixed shortly after.
As Asst Manager, I feel it is my duty to keep backups as well.

I also will not be online as often for these two weeks.
Still have a 12 page essay, two presentations, as well as a few other things I need finished. :/

Hiro 05-04-2012 12:01 AM

This isn't dead yet?

Loakey_P2P 05-04-2012 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2 (Post 1691906)
Where as that is sad, I will be revamping a lot more and ditching the old quests.

funny as cujo assured me they were staying . on that note if you get a message from stefan saying " great i loved shaded legend" . then go removing everything, your not bringing the server back . you just rummaging through it for anything that fits your need and tossing everybody else's hard work in the garbage like its nothing but scrap heap . that's real assuring :\ .

ff7chocoboknight 05-05-2012 03:51 PM

I'd just remake the whole thing; completely trash everything and just start over. But I guess you guys don't have the common sense.

Loakey_P2P 05-06-2012 12:16 AM

and on that note neither does stefan cause that's the stuff he liked about the server along with many other people ...... but then again no one asked your opinion and you view's on anything not classic related are well known by everyone in the community . so maybe it's time to give it a rest .

ffcmike 05-06-2012 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loakey_P2P (Post 1693755)
and on that note neither does stefan cause that's the stuff he liked about the server along with many other people ...... but then again no one asked your opinion and you view's on anything not classic related are well known by everyone in the community . so maybe it's time to give it a rest .

This isn't specifically a dig at Shaded Legend, but I decided it was best to start over with Classic, Npulse's staff decided it was best to start over with Npulse, Atlantis's staff decided it was best to start over with Atlantis, Delteria's staff decided it was best to start over with Delteria. The previous versions of these servers remained on the list for quite a few years after Shaded Legend dropped off it.

Loakey_P2P 05-07-2012 10:28 AM

the only problem i see with that "just start all over" approach is classic is the last one still standing . I'm still puzzled by your decision to leave classic in dev stage but that's your decision . many great things were built up on shaded tho and removing the whole arka story line, removing all the cutscenes and making whole new ones, making whole new quest's just seem's like one big step back to me . its even more complicated by the staff not being concerned what so ever at repairing the server but piddling with stupid new stuff that only gets halfway done before the staff disappear never to be seen again . I'm just saying they should TRY to keep what remains of the server before they just go gutting it . cujo seem's to be under this idea as well .

ffcmike 05-07-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loakey_P2P (Post 1693918)
the only problem i see with that "just start all over" approach is classic is the last one still standing . I'm still puzzled by your decision to leave classic in dev stage but that's your decision . many great things were built up on shaded tho and removing the whole arka story line, removing all the cutscenes and making whole new ones, making whole new quest's just seem's like one big step back to me . its even more complicated by the staff not being concerned what so ever at repairing the server but piddling with stupid new stuff that only gets halfway done before the staff disappear never to be seen again . I'm just saying they should TRY to keep what remains of the server before they just go gutting it . cujo seem's to be under this idea as well .

Ofcourse it doesn't always work out as it's a long term approach and as you say staff rarely remain committed for long enough, among plenty of other reasons. The concept however is that it's a big step backward from something which isn't working that would allow a server to eventually take 2 big steps forward. By sacrificing time in the short term and giving yourself a clean slate to work with, you're making development quicker and easier in the long run. To continue adding on top of an out dated foundation can be a struggle, to attempt to simply re-work it can be time inefficient.

As we all know what's good in theory isn't always good in realistic practise, the simple but realistic approach may often produce more of an end product than the ambitious long term approach, and to some this is better than nothing. At the same time however the quicker end product is less likely to push the boundaries of quality and offer something unique to Graal. So I suppose it's best to weigh it up according to the priority.

skillmaster19 05-12-2012 03:18 AM

Hmm it was renamed to "Shaded Legends"(plural).

Discuss.

Devil_Lord2 05-14-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiro (Post 1693630)
This isn't dead yet?

Of course not! It is only getting started!
On the 18th when I'm free from college.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loakey_P2P (Post 1693654)
then go removing everything, your not bringing the server back . you just rummaging through it for anything that fits your need and tossing everybody else's hard work in the garbage like its nothing but scrap heap . that's real assuring :\ .

The old quests, which are not at all quest like, will be revamped
and still used as subquests. I don't want to remove what we can
still use. From what I remember and have seen, even as an FAQ
I NEVER knew what the storyline of Shaded Legends was... It
either didn't show through the quests, or it was only me.

Regardless, the puzzles weren't that puzzle like, the fight content
... well I did not see much of any fight content... I'd like to give
it a more static story line with what you've told me about the old
into and making it more creative and more integrated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight (Post 1693728)
I'd just remake the whole thing; completely trash everything and just start over. But I guess you guys don't have the common sense.

Why trash everything when it is there to be used?
Sounds like a complete waste of time to me. ^.^;

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1693758)
This isn't specifically a dig at Shaded Legend, but I decided it was best to start over with Classic, Npulse's staff decided it was best to start over with Npulse, Atlantis's staff decided it was best to start over with Atlantis, Delteria's staff decided it was best to start over with Delteria. The previous versions of these servers remained on the list for quite a few years after Shaded Legend dropped off it.

I guess it depends what list, they have all dropped off hosted and classic.
Therefore in my mind disappearing from Graal visibly. I'm told Shaded
was taken off due to it being asked to be...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loakey_P2P (Post 1693918)
many great things were built up on shaded tho and removing the whole arka story line, removing all the cutscenes and making whole new ones, making whole new quest's just seem's like one big step back to me . its even more complicated by the staff not being concerned what so ever at repairing the server but piddling with stupid new stuff that only gets halfway done before the staff disappear never to be seen again . I'm just saying they should TRY to keep what remains of the server before they just go gutting it . cujo seem's to be under this idea as well .

The whole Arka story line remains the same from what I was told it was supposed to be like. It being recreated from the start however...

Your father was killed by someone, you blame Arka,
Arka pushes you off a cliff, Arka puts a village on fire.
However, the village on fire will now be on the gmap.
(This means it will actually resemble the gmap village this time)

The server is and has been being repaired, we will not
be starting over, only the official main questline will be.
The Arka quests, if I can find them, may be still used
but probably revamped to hold more content and be
more fun to everyone.

Also, I try to have staff members work on something before leaving, therefore when they do leave, something was at least received out of it. :]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1693922)
The concept however is that it's a big step backward from something which isn't working that would allow a server to eventually take 2 big steps forward. To continue adding on top of an out dated foundation can be a struggle, to attempt to simply re-work it can be time inefficient.

Exactly, however we don't want to take a big step, only a small step back.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1693922)
At the same time however the quicker end product is less likely to push the boundaries of quality and offer something unique to Graal. So I suppose it's best to weigh it up according to the priority.

My thoughts are now on Unholy Nation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1694424)
Hmm it was renamed to "Shaded Legends"(plural).
Discuss.

I'm told, the idea was at first single player game.
Becoming the Shaded Legend was the main objective.

The server is now multiplayer, and can hold many a Shaded Legend.
Therefor I suggested that it be called Shaded Legends...

There can be many a Shaded Legend on Shaded Legends.

That wasn't what the main reason was however, I feel it sounds better off the tongue...

Hey do you want to play Shaded Legends
vs
Hey do you want to play Shaded Legend?

It could be just me, Shaded Legends makes more since when talking about it to another person, and I'd love for others to talk about it to another person. ;]

Therefore slightly helping in advertisement...
Of course no one talks about names all that often,
so for the average player, why should it matter?





Anyways, on the 18th I will most likely be able to redo Super Rewards and start back up on making Shaded Legends a better place. We are also looking
for more players to join us in helping us improve the server.

Plans so far.. will be known after the Intro is finished and the trailer is out. :]
We still have some ideas that we aren't too sure about, but for the most part
we believe will be incorporated to the game.

I want the main focus to be on Quests however many other things to do.
Ideally two teams of staff will be needed, since quests are the main focus
and it is never good to release everything at once, we need one team on
content always being released, content like clothing, weapons, subquests, etc. Main content will be released every few months.

I'd like to have more creativity towards the actual quest-line so it creates more anticipation towards the storyline but still pertains to their other wants
like collecting things, or being the best at something.

Don't worry, like everyone else's server,
we believe we know what we are doing. :D

I won't go further into some details,
many of you will only have to wait. ;)

Some threads aren't letting me know when
there is something new, sorry.

Kiwi27 05-14-2012 10:41 PM

Did your 'enter' key break?
It'd be nice if you could edit that. Take away some of the illogical gaps and make the post look a bit shorter.

Devil_Lord2 05-14-2012 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi27 (Post 1694639)
Did your 'enter' key break?
It'd be nice if you could edit that. Take away some of the illogical gaps and make the post look a bit shorter.

I did! Spacing things out make things easier to read. :]
I create gaps between quotes, subjects, and after I'm
done answering quotes, I'll separate my own statements
from the rest of my writing or complete separate subjects.

I also like to keep things in block format because to me
it looks better, neater, and also easier to read.

^^

One should also use topic headers, and bullets.
Other posts are usually all together and much
more boring to read. Using personal experience
and what was learned in Technical Writing classes.


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