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Frankie 08-22-2009 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1517415)
Ok so if someone pretends to be your friend for months, and then you decent to trust him with a item, its your fault for getting scammed? :\

yes. it's your choice to trust them. it's not like you're automatically obligated to lend someone your items just because they were your friend on an online game for a few months.

I always lent my **** out to friends. fortunately my friends weren't fake douche bags. tough luck for those who aren't so fortunate, but people suck and will **** you over. not just in games either. lesson learned kids.

Vulcan 08-22-2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1517419)
I always lent my **** out to friends. fortunately my friends weren't fake douche bags. tough luck for those who aren't so fortunate, but people suck and will **** you over. not just in games either. lesson learned kids.

Hey Frankie. Can I borrow your uzi? ;)

Sinkler 08-22-2009 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1517419)
yes. it's your choice to trust them. it's not like you're automatically obligated to lend someone your items just because they were your friend on an online game for a few months.

I always lent my **** out to friends. fortunately my friends weren't fake douche bags. tough luck for those who aren't so fortunate, but people suck and will **** you over. not just in games either. lesson learned kids.

Still Frankie, this game is targeted to be played for fun and not to be upset that someone scammed your items. This isn't a game where we're all supposed to feel upset when we play it since we were scammed. It's unethical and not needed. People lending have the right to and a PR watching will insure its safety. There's nothing wrong with that.

Frankie 08-22-2009 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler (Post 1517437)
Still Frankie, this game is targeted to be played for fun and not to be upset that someone scammed your items. This isn't a game where we're all supposed to feel upset when we play it since we were scammed. It's unethical and not needed. People lending have the right to and a PR watching will insure its safety. There's nothing wrong with that.

the possible outcomes of allowing supervised borrowing just isn't worth it. there are still idiots that will take another player's item and trade it off to other people. then the GP has to dig through logs to find that item. a huge waste of time. all because of something stupid.

Nataxo 08-22-2009 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1517289)
GPs shouldn't even be involved in these types of situations. there is no need to lend your items out, at all. if you do, you do it at your own risk. it's such a ridiculous concept to tell a GP "hey, I'm letting so and so borrow my gun, make sure he gives it back plz."

I agree. Couldn't have sed it better.

death_striker 08-22-2009 07:37 AM

I personaly think that scamming should be legal still

HarlemBalla 08-22-2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1517402)
my point is, lending items should be at your own risk

So, players should feel discomfort in letting a friend borrow an item? Nothing should be done to make players feel safer when lending an item to someone?

MY point being, I think something needs to be done to make lending weapons an easier process for players.

Sinkler 08-22-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1517440)
the possible outcomes of allowing supervised borrowing just isn't worth it. there are still idiots that will take another player's item and trade it off to other people. then the GP has to dig through logs to find that item. a huge waste of time. all because of something stupid.

But the Player Relations job is: help players who don't know Era well enough, enforce the rules (which includes reversing trades and looking through logs), and make sure that society on Era is stable.

You say that it's not worth it, but in all honesty, it's to make Era a better, more enjoyable place as well as it make it noob friendly.

cbk1994 08-22-2009 08:31 AM

What exactly are you guys arguing? I see like three points trying to be made.

HarlemBalla 08-22-2009 08:42 AM

I started this thread to propose an idea for making borrowing trades easier.

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Originally Posted by HarlemBalla (Post 1517283)
Instead of GP having to go to a level to watch them do their trade it may be necessary to add a check box or something in the trade window when where the players agree that they are just lending the items.

If not that, maybe a lending room in the Graal Police Headquarters where a player can lend an item to another player for a set time. These are just two suggestions that could make "getting the story" properly if a lending trade does go wrong.

jorollychu 08-22-2009 10:19 AM

i gave mystic my gatling gun a while ago and he lets me use it and every time he does i pretend im not gonna give it back and he cries.

Pelikano 08-22-2009 11:08 AM

GPs don't exist!

Vman13x 08-22-2009 02:48 PM

I agree with what vin said, make the lending system so people can put a set time, like say someone wants to lend dual deagles to a friend for 30 minutes, after that time is up the deagles automatically get put on the owners account, and if the person logs the item returns back automatically.

Pelikano 08-22-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vman13x (Post 1517504)
I agree with what vin said, make the lending system so people can put a set time, like say someone wants to lend dual deagles to a friend for 30 minutes, after that time is up the deagles automatically get put on the owners account, and if the person logs the item returns back automatically.

Some people here have to realise that Era is not Disney Land

Nataxo 08-22-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vman13x (Post 1517504)
I agree with what vin said, make the lending system so people can put a set time, like say someone wants to lend dual deagles to a friend for 30 minutes, after that time is up the deagles automatically get put on the owners account, and if the person logs the item returns back automatically.

runescape :P

but its a good idea.


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