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cyan3 11-28-2008 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1445281)
If an EM had to find another EM and host all their events through them, do you think they would host more or fewer events than if they could host them themselves?

True, but you don't need fancy rights to host good events within kingdoms. but the options is available if an Events Master is willing to help.

kia345 11-28-2008 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1445279)
That at specific times so players know they can depend on an event at that specific time & day every week. It's fairly simplistic.

They shouldn't need a list to expect an event. There's enough EMs, there should always be an EM on to, or at least be willing to, host.

Stephen 11-28-2008 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1445287)
They shouldn't need a list to expect an event. There's enough EMs, there should always be an EM on to, or at least be willing to, host.

Pojo, please use some consideration before posting. The reason for scheduled event is to try to regulate player count. So the players who do not play often know, if they're bored and want some fun but don't want to hang out on Graal they an log on at those specific times each week for a short break from their work.

I really feel I've explained the process behind the schedule clearly enough to remove any confusion.

FenixTheBanished 11-28-2008 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1445287)
They shouldn't need a list to expect an event. There's enough EMs, there should always be an EM on to, or at least be willing to, host.

/agreed

and the whole coerced thing was making a point that they volunteered to become an EM and he wasnt implicating at all that they were coerced into their jobs. and i agree a schedule is nice, however the events arent always, no near always hosted during those times on the scheduled days. As i said before there are plenty of EMs doing nothing with their tag and there are others doing something. I have been on during some of the times that there were supposed to be scheduled events and there were not any, more than once, if not habitual. And Stephen youre taking this thread as a personal attack, which is your decision, but I do not believe anywhere in here I mentioned your name about you not doing your job. You and Maroku have the logs, you know who has been hosting when theyre scheduled and when the other ones are hosting. If youre taking it personal then thats something you need to work out with yourself because i do believe, and everyone can attest, that your name hasnt been said.

By no means should any EMs be harassed into eventing, but if they want to be EMs then i think that they should be eventing, atleast on a bi-weekly basis for each EM and that would provide a plethora of events for people to enjoy because i think there are... Nayt, Pat, Plasma, Mar, Drakeero, Mez, and Tig hosts them occasionally. thats 7 EMs. that would mean at least *14* occurrences of multiple events each. More than enough to make people happy.

Not sure why people went off in a tangent about Kingdom events, but I believe that the kingdoms should be organized and scheduled in a way that if you want to have a kingdom event then it should be notified like atleast 3-7 days in advance so people have the opportunity to respond and prepare, and I dont think it would be hard to arrange an EM being present if it is needed with that kind of advanced notice.

kia345 11-28-2008 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1445288)
regulate player count

There isn't a playercount to regulate. If you're trying to draw people on by using events, people need to think there's constantly an event going on.

FenixTheBanished 11-28-2008 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1445288)
Pojo, please use some consideration before posting. The reason for scheduled event is to try to regulate player count. So the players who do not play often know, if they're bored and want some fun but don't want to hang out on Graal they an log on at those specific times each week for a short break from their work.

I really feel I've explained the process behind the schedule clearly enough to remove any confusion.

im sort of confused on why you would want to regulate playercount, you should want a continuous player count through out the day so that not just one time zone or period of time is much more heavily populated than others.

Making people think that getting at 24:00-3:00 srevertime means events and then they can just log off and go to a different server is much worse then people constantly wondering when there will be events and coming on to actually spend time playing instead of just showing up for events that are scheduled at ______ time *and then leaving to other servers to play there.*

Ravenblade1979 11-28-2008 09:39 AM

Ya know when I was an EM (please no flaming) I did try to make sure i hosted everyday at least.

Now before pojo decides to flame me. yes there were a number of months I didn't host BUT IF YOU HAD BEEN ON WHEN I HAD POJO THERE WERE SUPER LOW NUMBERS.

EM's can't host with like 1 or 2 gold members being afk in trade and like 3 trials running around. I went through this with you...end of story.

You hate me so lets leave it to pm's.

If this is a problem maybe stephen, tig and Maroku can sit down and maybe think of hiring EM's just to host regular events with like EC's (dias etc) and then have the other EM's do the scheduled events.

I don't know just an idea. I know this post will be turned against me so w/e. Its an idea to think about anyways.

Googi 11-28-2008 09:55 AM

Pretty much every argument here for or against the schedule is based on the faulty premise that knowledge of the schedule is actually widespread.

Sam 11-28-2008 12:07 PM

I think as long as this is not going into a flame or bash thread players should talkl about their wishes. so I reopend the thread.

Tigairius 11-28-2008 07:50 PM

The events schedule is an important part of the events team on Graal Kingdoms. It is carefully considered and certainly not forced. The only difference is, as far as I know, Events Masters who participate in the events schedule receive a bonus amount of staff coins at the end of the week. We're not just going to hire tons of Events Masters without careful consideration because each Events Master that is hired increases the possibility of corruption. All Events Masters are chosen carefully in a timely manner but with consideration to not choose the wrong person.

You're simply asking too much for there to constantly be events. If there were constantly events the price of event coins would shoot down, all other prizes given out in events would make the items valueless and as a result the economy would be struck quite hard. It's not as simple as "hold more events!" The only reasonable way to do this would be to drastically increase the price of items in the event shop and only give out event coins.

I agree that there aren't as many events as there should be sometimes, and that's why I start holding events. I really think this thread has no base to the argument other than simply wanting to argue. If you have an idea or plans on how we can improve the Events Master system in a professional and considerate way, please let me know.

FenixTheBanished 11-28-2008 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1445417)
The events schedule is an important part of the events team on Graal Kingdoms. It is carefully considered and certainly not forced. The only difference is, as far as I know, Events Masters who participate in the events schedule receive a bonus amount of staff coins at the end of the week. We're not just going to hire tons of Events Masters without careful consideration because each Events Master that is hired increases the possibility of corruption. All Events Masters are chosen carefully in a timely manner but with consideration to not choose the wrong person.

You're simply asking too much for there to constantly be events. If there were constantly events the price of event coins would shoot down, all other prizes given out in events would make the items valueless and as a result the economy would be struck quite hard. It's not as simple as "hold more events!" The only reasonable way to do this would be to drastically increase the price of items in the event shop and only give out event coins.

I agree that there aren't as many events as there should be sometimes, and that's why I start holding events. I really think this thread has no base to the argument other than simply wanting to argue. If you have an idea or plans on how we can improve the Events Master system in a professional and considerate way, please let me know.

Thats just the thing, this thread has nothing to do with arguing and it annoys me that everyone assumes that. I am not the only one who feels there haven't been that many events, and everyone jumps to conclusions that im saying "HOLD DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF EVENTS!"

Thats not what I am saying at all and everyone just assumes to jump to that conclusion. The people that are holding events are more or less Maroku, *Naith*, and Plasma on a more or less consistent basis. I know that other EMs have prizes and what not that just choose not to event their stuff while theyre online, and Im not going to name any names, and there also have been some EMs that have been completely inactive, once again not naming anyone. I think we have an ample amount of current EMs, but only like 3 are holding events consistently. And Im not asking for there to be events 24/7 nor constantly, but like 1-3 a day I dont think is all that much considering that its not like ONLY ECs can be evented, Sapphires, Rubies, Carrots, EAs, IWDs, Diamonds, ECs, Immenses, Brutals, and some other interested things that you sometimes come up with (Tig) give more then ample amount of things to event. The number of ACTUAL EMs is perfectly fine because when they are all eventing, like before Halloween, it was great, and in that time i didnt see any drastic change in prices, if anything the cost of immenses, brutals, & ecs have gone up because of lack of availability *and increase in demand of players wanting to level*.

Tig and Stephen and anyone else that sees my threads as flaming should assume that unless I am actually flaming someone that I name then I'm not, because if I want to flame Ill just flame. But I was just addressing an issue that I myself felt was in need of attention, but also had people mentioning it to me and when I would bring it up, agreeing with me. So I felt the need to make a thread that got out of hand with people pointing fingers or assuming that I was pointing them. So, in that respect, I am sorry to cause the confusion. I am just bringing up topics that I know are being talked about between players, but some either don't feel that they should say anything, don't have forum access, or whatever other reasons exist. Just trying to find out what's up and what staff thinks is going on. So, for future reference, if I make a controversial thread, which is my tendency *because otherwise there is no reason to make one in my opinion*, just look at what I am saying and take it at face value, don't assume I'm flaming please.

And thank you for reopening the thread.

Gothika 11-28-2008 10:25 PM

Why does my name have **'s around it?

Anyway, speaking from the inside. I find scheduled events hard to host.
When I done the big Hotaru Tournement with Maroku we found out that the players have a hard job of getting online at specific times, especialy those who have college.
And obviously you can't find a stable time to fit in all the different time zones.

CABAL49 11-29-2008 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1445328)
Pretty much every argument here for or against the schedule is based on the faulty premise that knowledge of the schedule is actually widespread.

This pretty much sums up my opinion of the schedule. Most of the players of GK don't use the forums.

Craigus 11-29-2008 12:28 PM

I think the idea for having some set times and some planned events each week for some of the events is a great idea, i believe alot of events are not held because of lack of players and even if just a few more log on at the select times it could allow the EM's to hold more intresting events. At the moment they can be held back by playercount.

If this system was put in place i know that i for one would attend alot more events then i currently do.

kia345 11-29-2008 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1445417)
The events schedule is an important part of the events team on Graal Kingdoms.

Important? It's only been around a short time, I never remember having to keep a schedule, and we seemed to get along fine - if not better - without it.


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