It was needed because most people did not take that into account.

That's stupid. How would someone get better at, say, level editing when no one can critisise (spelling?) someone else's work?

technically it is a flame cause it is an insult, you could simply say a,b,c,d,e,f,etc are all idiots stating everyoone from zone is an idiot, thats the same thing u said in different form, the form u claim is a flame

its a flame nonetheless

and show me the statistics that graal players from every server has to take an iq test and state their main server? show me that and if we got the lowest iq, thats 1 thing

but your obviously basing zone off a few people, or the majority you claim, which cant be done since were 1 of the main servers played on

you cant compare a server with 90 people to a server with 20 people, theres only a few many people actually play

so i repeat, u DID flame and i agree with typhoon, it was completely unnecessary

just like people say un is a sex server, now ive seen a lot of ppl try to hookup on that, yes, but not all 200, maybe about 50, thats not the majority, hence its technically not a sex server

if u look at like...classic...with its like 30 ppl....if 10 ppl try and hookup,,,thats 1/3....same to un...

look at it that way, i pulled random data out of the air but u know my point

it sucks bein a zone player with a high IQ :(

Don't get me wrong, criticism is needed, but if you wish to point out the flaws you should also compliment zone and it's players.

You don't know how ridiculous you sound.

I think he's trying to say don't criticize without suggestions for improvement.

also state the fact, theres a fine line between a criticism and an all out flame

Hey, there are good and bad cops, guess which one I am...

Bad....Very very bad

I remember when everyone was angry because Sweep Fleet had an unfair "terrain advantage."
And Stefan and Gambet were the only 2 staff members, to my knowledge.

And since Christmas 2 years ago, what has been done? The addition of 1 so-so planet, 2 crappy ones, and the taking away of on eof the better ones. And events, which suck so horribly they made me want to go play Unholy Nation. Of course, I regained my sanity and didn't play Graal at all, but that's beside the point...

This needs to be changed. I'm at the point where I laugh at However made Zone a gold server, because it's updates are about as random as what comes out of my keyboard. The fact that it is supposed to make money, yet has Staff members (excluding Vulcan) that can't relate to the players makes me laugh. (Sayian doesn't count because he does GFX, but can't upload anything; same goes for Darky.)

Make Zone classic; but keeping it as a Gold server with this kind of negligence by most of it's 3 actual staff members just isn't smart.

And my opinion, of course, may be totally wrong, but the way Zone is run isn't right, either...

Zomg, he can interpret jarrish.

An insult is not a flame. A flame is when you take a forum user and start to harass him/her over and over.

No.

As I said before, go ahead and start looking around other servers. Although zone has improved, there are many people who are just idiots. They will -not- listen to you and run around and shoot anything that moves.

No I'm not.

That's why I said proportion.

I didn't flame and it was necessary because no one was getting it in their heads. Why else won't Stefan give Zone it's own pack of developers? It's own pack of staff?

It's not the same thing.

I don't see how this is relevant.

Yeah but I'm not talking about shere numbers, I'm talking proportions.

I.e 50/100 people on Valikorlia don't RP.

75/100 people on G2k2 don't rp.

etc

Go learn what a flame is. Please.

Hell no I don't.

But they are still staff regardless of uploading rights. How do you think G2k2 works? Only a select few have uploading rights and people go to them if they have something ready for being uploaded. Zone levels aren't easy to make.

I dont think you realise how hard something with Zone's proportions is to code..

NPC Code:

---

function shootOne() {

  freezeplayer .20;

  this.angle=getangle(vecx(playerdir),vecy(playerdir  ));

  this.x=playerx+vecx(playerdir)*2;

  setstring client.mr90ammo,#v(strtofloat(#s(client.mr90ammo))-1);

  this.y=(playery-.5)+vecy(playerdir)*2.5;

  setshootparams #v(this.bulletdmg); //damage modifier

  shoot this.x,this.y,playerz,this.angle+random(this.maxan  gle1*-1,this.maxangle1),

    0,0,#s(mr90.bulletgani),;

}

---

A rather crappy gun script of my own. Shoots one bullet with fairly bad recoil. Honestly, something like shotgun would be around 8 of those, each with it's own individual setting and etc, and then you need to code the damage part. When you have close to 50 weapons, that's 50 statements in serverside, each with it's own parameters and sorts. It's an incredible and admirable feat.

Simply put, Zone too slow for you? Screw you. I'd like to see you try and code it faster.

Har. Compliment Zone and it's players. Excluding a few select people (Dark, Chrono, possibly anu or ixi), the rest are blabbing idiots who sit around and do nothing but scream at their monitor when they get "lamed" from "laming" someone. IQ doesnt mean goddamn thing. It's like your carbon footprint, but better known. Simply put, it doesnt mean a damn thing. I have an IQ of 124, you have an IQ of 6, who cares?

"also state the fact, theres a fine line between a criticism and an all out flame"

CC and flame are the same things. Look at my posts. I manage to insult at least one of you pathetic dregs and still give input worth reading.

Oh, and for those who cant be bothered to read my whole post:

IQ bad. Ugg. Flaming and critisisism is bad. Oog. Stefan code hard time not easy. Arf.

i hate big posts.

just to let you know gerami, since most of your post quotes me, my statement stands because

when i first joined the forums i was INSULTED ok? i wasnt herassed, i was INSULTED, and people claimed it to be a flame, i INSULTED back and was told to stop flaming

and, if im not mistaken, i believe awhile back ixi got bant for INSULTING darky then a stronger FLAME rule was introduced seconds later

harassment might be considered a flame, but so are insults, as i just said

so...my points before still stand

and to the points you said have no relation to this, ill give you a second try, re-read everything i said, and you should understand, after all you clearly know everything