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Kaimetsu 06-22-2005 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
We did not make these rules

You are advocating them. Why?

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This should not be new to you
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So we should enforce this rule because it's really old? That's your argument?

Kaimetsu 06-22-2005 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle
If the person said "Who is that?" , the answer could be "My Sister" in out of character, but in character...the answer would be "Queen Kaimetsu"

And you would have difficulty distinguishing between them? That's kind of tragic, but I don't think rules should be drafted just to compensate for your ineptitude.

Draenin 06-22-2005 12:25 AM

Nice double post. You are missing his point.

Gambet 06-22-2005 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
You are advocating them. Why?



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So we should enforce this rule because it's really old? That's your argument?



We will enforce them because they make sense and they are quite fair rules. When you are OOC, you use OOC brackets (()). When you are IC, you don't use OOC brackets. It's a perfect way of indicating if you are OOC or IC. It's also very useful.

Kaimetsu 06-22-2005 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
Nice double post

Is there anything inherently wrong with double-posting?

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You are missing his point.
No, you're missing mine! Checkmate!

Kaimetsu 06-22-2005 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
We will enforce them because they make sense

Right, but you're just substituting arguments for assertions again. I'll agree that the brackets can sometimes be useful, but how is it beneficial to force people into using them at all times?

Gambet 06-22-2005 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Right, but you're just substituting arguments for assertions again. I'll agree that the brackets can sometimes be useful, but how is it beneficial to force people into using them at all times?



How is it beneficial? Have you been around GK at all anytime soon? I'm assuming you have not. Players speak IC when they should be using OOC brackets (meaning what they are saying is not part of their character). OOC brackets is a good way to teach players how to learn how to properly role play. It's a method of teaching. Not using OOC brackets would rather be a more advanced form of role playing.

Kaimetsu 06-22-2005 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
Players speak IC when they should be using OOC brackets

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Your role in this debate is to show that they should be using OOC brackets. You cannot simply assume it!

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OOC brackets is a good way to teach players how to learn how to properly role play
Justify your statement. How does the use of those brackets aid learning?

Gambet 06-22-2005 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
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Justify your statement. How does the use of those brackets aid learning?


Because it shows players the difference between IC words/phrases/sentences/conversations to OOC words/phrases/sentences/conversations.

Kaimetsu 06-22-2005 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
Because it shows players the difference between IC [...] to OOC [...]

Is it really something that needs extensive explanation? I didn't think it was possible, but you seem to be underestimating Graalians.

Gambet 06-22-2005 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Is it really something that needs extensive explanation? I didn't think it was possible, but you seem to be underestimating Graalians.



It's helpful and is a quick way of learning for those new to role playing. We don't want to confuse the newer players (or rather those new to role playing).

Zurkiba 06-22-2005 12:42 AM

Roleplaying rules are established so that there is a constant in the game. Otherwise roleplaying would not be fun. When there are no constants in roleplaying, then it ruins the entire game for everyone. Need examples? Look at the Zormite Republic and Astri. The Zormite Republic could not roleplay yet Astri could. Thusly the game was ruined as there could be no interactions between the two.

Curt1zzle 06-22-2005 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
And you would have difficulty distinguishing between them? That's kind of tragic, but I don't think rules should be drafted just to compensate for your ineptitude.

Continue the argument without attempting personal blows.

Obviosly that's just one scenario, but you make it sound like it's screamingly blatant - when it isn't.

I mean, it could be the character's sister...sure , Queen would be obvious, but if the person said "My Sister"...is it the in game sister, or out of game sister?

Think inside the box, for once.

zell12 06-22-2005 12:49 AM

If people want to roleplay, they can go roleplay with eachother and other kingdoms. There shouldn't be a rule to force players to use these brackets when they don't want to use old english and long messages. :/

Gambet 06-22-2005 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by zell12
If people want to roleplay, they can go roleplay with eachother and other kingdoms. There shouldn't be a rule to force players to use these brackets when they don't want to use old english and long messages. :/


And this is what killed role playing to begin with. Players who think such statements.


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