And the Guild CP was supposed to be done by Christmas, and VIP Preview was supposed to be released early last year, and then again last month. Are the words just talk when you say that, or are you actually going to release it? I'm not going to play it.

A 3D engine is pretty hard to do.. Stefan is remaking many torque parts, so say too early when you hope have something done is pretty difficult. You always have ideas to improve something to release something better, so the date changes.. But Graal 3D is pretty cool to play, Its for now just a test of the engine, Stefan is studying cameras and other things.. But its cool walk around..its all a new way to see Graal..

Ah, I figured something like that was going to go down, just didn't see anything saying that. No worries then.

I'd much rather have a nicer, more well worked beta anyway. I don't mind the wait, I got VIP mainly for forums anyway and didn't really expect it to be done by the initial deadlines.

Figures, I just got my new account, and I couldn't upgrade to VIP right away.. NExt time will be VIP though. =D

Meh, i hope im one of the 30, but i can wait a week i geuss if not. Also will we get exp from the test monsters or are you just purely showing what itll be like, and not letting us get exp at all?

Well, would be nice to be picked as one of the 30.

This is how it is:

30 people will test it all of this week, and then after this week it will be released to VIP members.

I believe thats how it will work, but the version the 30 random people will test out isnt really the full version.

yeh i know its a collectors thing that after the testing is done will end up being massed over kazaa lmao

Doesnt matter if its leaked, you wont be able to log on unless your IP is added to the account database, or whatever unixmad is using.

Or ebay; that was my initial thought anyway, but im kinda unclear as to what unix meant by "collectors item" plus i thought you had to like...have your account accepted before you can log onto G3D. Not sure.

yeh i know all that, but it will be leaked to people who know how to hack past that stuff.

Well, just like unixmad stated, this version is pretty much a Beta Test, and not the version that will be released next week. So, even if it were leaked, it wouldnt matter because i doubt anyone will be playing the "collectors item" version much anyways.

lmao yeah i geuss ur right lol i doubt anything in the collectors edition is special enough to want neway

Stefan could also disable the beta version from logging on to the Graal3D Server if needed. Like he used to do if you had not upgraded your graal version.

You would get an error message like "This server requires version x.xx".

yeh ur right

If its a collector's item, then why would they?

It doesnt matter if its leaked, really.