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BlackSolider 03-25-2010 11:49 PM

I said early 2011 though I was very tempted to say never.

The problem is, Graal is a dying game and the current Classic staff is far too small to quickly make a quality server. It won't be easy to attract more developers either, since few people likely wants to work on such a massive project on a UC server, especially if they never played on Classic back in the day.

The biggest problem is trying to establish a playerbase. New players will be tough to gain because no one is likely going paying almost $50 (according to another thread,) to play a 2d game. Likewise, I don't know exactly what we can offer that the seemingly mindless drones from Era + UN (the two biggest servers,) haven't seen already. Getting them to move is a challenge in itself , as people are very resistant to change, especially when they're comfortable, and I honestly think most of our old playerbase has moved on. Even if they haven't, tis likely that they won't be playing as much as they used to.

I have all the confidence in Thor, WD, and the entire Dev team to make quality levels. I simply doubt the game itself, as well as the ability of a new server to attract and keep players who seem content on their current servers (considering they're still playing it.)

Mark Sir Link 03-26-2010 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1564911)
Where is the option for "within less time than it took for the card game to be made"?

I got beat to this

xnervNATx 03-26-2010 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1564973)
I got beat to this

impossible

also i said mid 2010
have faith people!

Rolav 03-27-2010 09:41 PM

Why not just release it now? Its not like this would be the first time Classic was online for 6 month periods at a time with little to no updates other than maybe a new player house or new GC event. Think about the time right after Tyhm & Nerv left classic. I dont think anything was worked on other than the GC House for like almost 2 years. Then again the same thing happened for like 3 years after MS took over. As snickers once said "Why Wait"?

BlackSolider 03-27-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolav (Post 1565375)
Why not just release it now? Its not like this would be the first time Classic was online for 6 month periods at a time with little to no updates other than maybe a new player house or new GC event. Think about the time right after Tyhm & Nerv left classic. I dont think anything was worked on other than the GC House for like almost 2 years. Then again the same thing happened for like 3 years after MS took over. As snickers once said "Why Wait"?

I assume you haven't been on Classic in a while so let me fill you in.

I don't know exactly what all is complete, but rest assured releasing it now would flop worse than the GC card game after a week.

There's about 10 overworld levels with a total of maybe 5 buildings you can enter. There's no quests. There's two events currently, so any thoughts of keeping players around the same way we did last time won't work. There's 3 hearts and maybe one spar arena, which is in the GC waiting room which isn't readily accessible to the public.

Now if a server like that sounds fun to you....well then I believe you're in the minority. It's best to not release something until it's worth playing, and right now we're not at that point.

Edit: correction, thor has informed me that we have a spar arena on the overworld at Supernicks, which is in the NE of the main town.

gravator 03-27-2010 11:30 PM

So what we have now, an overworld with some buildings you can enter and one spar arena, NO quests, nothing to find and no inventory at all, is much better than showing the actual progress you claim is going on?


Sometimes i just can't understand why people say such things, but maybe it is because i am not working on it.

xnervNATx 03-28-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gravator (Post 1565397)
So what we have now, an overworld with some buildings you can enter and one spar arena, NO quests, nothing to find and no inventory at all, is much better than showing the actual progress you claim is going on?


Sometimes i just can't understand why people say such things, but maybe it is because i am not working on it.

...what?

James 03-28-2010 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravator (Post 1565397)
So what we have now, an overworld with some buildings you can enter and one spar arena, NO quests, nothing to find and no inventory at all, is much better than showing the actual progress you claim is going on?


Sometimes i just can't understand why people say such things, but maybe it is because i am not working on it.

you are seriously trolling in every playerworld thread, either make one yourself or stfu.

gravator 03-28-2010 12:56 AM

No need to lose your mind about what i posted, i logged in after that post and thor decided to talk to me and show me a small ammount of the progress that was done on the server (unless staff show you anything you would not know about it) and the few items i was allowed to see ARE impressive beyond words right now.:D


There is very little to interact with right now, just signs, bushes, clothes changer and sparring, but there are weapons that have been made and they look very nice and they are so much better looking than what was used during 1999-2005, thor just needs to make proper locations for them to be found, it could take a little more time, or alot, he tells me he's gotten certain systems being worked on first then he can do safe expansions of the overworld and things to actually do.


I may be wrong, but could a level maker deal with creating some sections of the overworld, nothing connecting the insides of houses, caves or anything, just areas you can walk around in? similar to the bit of area that is already up, or will things need to be planned out really well first so you don't suddenly have places that are just in for filler?


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