It hasn't been there already? My respect for him has been in negative land for quite a while. He knew what would happen when he left the topic open. It was not a mistake, it was on purpose. That alone put my respect for him into the land of nothingness.

People still ignore this completely, except for Ghost Pirate. I'd like a response from the people who think I should be banned, especially SSmutz because he thinks I'm a complete ******* to everyone.

I remember Geo saying that.

n/m

i haven't been on this thread for awhile now, but are you all still arguing about Mr. Bear and stuff?

I think it has switched over to TrueHeaT's banning and Crono's *****in sig.

Let me put it this way Gameo (since you're so concerned with spelling) This game is run by 2 foreigners. A frenchman and a german. Have you ever read or gotten any emails or big long statements from them? There are quite a few of mistakes (Though Stefan did impress me from his first email i got from him i thought it would be totally horrid but he did very well for being a foreigner) So you're saying you would pay 2 foreigners who know english as a second language (and make some mistakes too) but you wouldn't pay an american who can't type well? That's just stupid and we don't even know if Bear is getting paid or not only he stef and unix know that.

It's minute not mintue. Enough said, please never talk again you hypocrite.



Yes they may want the job but more than likely 98% wouldn't be qualified nor would they be able to handle it for more than 2 days. There is a lot of work involved.

This, and many other recent threads, make me want to hurl twice over.

lalalalala everyone ignores my post I would really like SSmutz you respond he seems to think i'm a big jerk to everyone even though i've always liked and respected him

Actualy Im afraid of you gameo! thats why I treat you well!

TrueHeaT: That was me.
Please remove that signature I do not like being depicted giving oral sex to adult men.

Hammer plz

TrueHeaT: Sorry I am not giving you my hammer for free. Your signature falls under the category of lewd images and you are breaking the forum rules by using it.
Please remove it.

The reason I mentioned your name, Gameo, along with Tybalt's because it was posted on the forums before that you have also provoked and harrased him....don't try to act innocent, because your acting skills need drastic improvement.

I do not understand how you can completely segregate the forums from Graal(game client)...they are both part of the entity GraalOnline...therefore rules set by GO would apply to both extremeties. It would be an utter waste to sit down and draw up rules for both when more or less, the rules will be fairly identical.

I hope you also took note that bear said that he was not getting paid. The staff WOULD be better if they were paid. But due to the obvious fact that practically all staff positions are done on a volunteer basis, you must realize that people in these positions are not going to work as hard. That would, however, be different if they truely had a passion for what they do or they were getting paid.

I wish you would keep your personal grudges against specific staff members to yourself. And if you felt it necessary to voice your opinion about them, do it personally by sending them an email...without being rude and spiteful. That is probably why you get the same results over and over again and the cycle will continue until your attitude changes.

Feel free to sit there and post excuses for what I have said...I am open to all criticism. :)

TrueHeaT:
G-Yoshi if you had read me big post you would know I didn't provoke Geo, he provoked me. The forums and the game have almost the same rules but the punishments are punishments for the place the crime was committed.

hmm...lets see....everytime it seemed that Geo posted something, graal related or not, you were there waiting for him....I have eyes, and a brain as well. I am not ignorant as to what is going on. Also, congrats on being a martyr, THT.

Gameo
TrueHeaT

Geovanie is who he is Mr Bear is who he is, nothing is going to change that. i dont think that ever ni the history of graal has a change in staff happened because of what the players said
maybe once or twice becauseof what a staff member did but technically theres not enough proof to do anything about it
it is what it is and you arent going to change it no matter how much you tell everyone Geovanie and Mr Bear are bad and corupt
it doesnt matter if they are or not, because it wont make a difference. in a week or two everyone wil have forgotten about it, and you probably will have too, because youll get so sick of argueing without success that youll stop.

you're right as far as attitude goes, but it's not personal grudges. bear told me that starting next week he would be getting paid. (the log in my profile)


but a crime done on the forums means you're to be punished on the forums.
a crime done on graal means you're to be punished on graal.

they ARE seperate entities.

yes, you're right.
you're completely right.

TrueHeaT:
You obviously didn't see how I never attacked him, I merely stated my opionion of his playerworld. Upon doing that hordes of his friends and him himself called me "immature" "***" they said I could never make better PWs than him ETC.

explain to me how they are seperate...both are in the real world, and thus are affected by real world variables. If this forum was not hosted by GO, then I would consider it a seperate entity...but because it is hosted under the name GraalOnline...it is part of that entity and not outside that. Until Unixmad or Stefan post a message saying that the forums and Graal are seperate, then they should be considered 1 entity. Making them seperate would allow people to break rules and repeat. It would also allow people to evade being banned :D

And if bear gets paid, then that is fine and dandy. That obviously will mean that his performance will pick up..otherwise, he will be fired for lack of performance and of course, lose the pay. If you want the staff to be better and not "corrupt" then pay them, or find people that are willing and are devout, otherwise you set yourself up for disappointment.

The reoccuring problem I see is that people expect too much of volunteer staff. That is why there are so many problems.

Enough is Enough is Enough
 

can we just fire Mr Bear already so this damn thread will end?

http://members.aol.com/andrew5656/myhomepage/hate.gif

ok? thanks

They are two seperate entities.
If you want them to be one entity, then have it so if a person can't be banned on one or the other, but on both. If a person does something wrong on the forums he should not be punished on Graal, it's ridiculous and makes no sense. He should be banned on the forums. Same goes with Graal. The rules here don't apply to Graal. There are seperate rules for Graal Forums and Graal.exe. You don't realize this.

I don't see any sig... :(

http://members.aol.com/andrew5656/myhomepage/hate.gif

thanks!

TrueHeaT: Why do you think Stefan unbanned my Graal account? He aknowledges that offenses on the forum are not to be punished in game! It's JUST COMMON SENSE! I realize you only think I should be banned and hold a grudge against my because I am not a christian and I oppose their views, but let this not cloud your thought.

hey guy, quoting yourself is stupid, and i do that...so stop..

i quoted TrueHeaT using my account y0

i have no grudge against you for that...it is your attitude and behavior and the fact that you want the whole graal community to exonerate you. That is why I continue to post on this thread.

If you would just settle down and review all the side first, then make your decision, you would not have problems to worry about....large problems that is.

I think both of you would make great friends, to be honest. You are both worth my time to debate with. :) Unless I see something I should have to comment on in this thread again....consider me as having dropped myself out of the dicussion.

take care, till we meet again...

TrueHeaT: I have reviewed both sides.
Well, it seems like you're holding a grudge because ever since the thread where we argued about religion it seems you treat me really badly.. =\
I don't want to whole Graal community to exonerate me I don't know why you think that.
Of course I have an additude to Geovanie who as I said before started these arguments by being so defensive about his playerworlds and causing so many people to hate me just because I don't like them.

Cant we just have Elections?

PS. Jinn for Dicatator!

wub

i am sorry if that is how I am appearing to you, i appologize for that. I am not intentionally trying to be mean, I am just trying to propose the other side of things that always seems to be neglected or kept in secret.

LETS JUST HAVE ELECTIONS DAMNIT!!

Elections won't work work because people who aren't qualified would be in the polls and whoever is the most popular will win. BAD IDEA SO DIE~!