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Crimson2005 02-21-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1468365)
From what I heard, peopel have offered two times for help to convert the old levels to new gscript and twice, nothign real was done.
So stop to argue and help instead on wasting time with this thread.

Classic now has about 12 developers. I'm willing to bet 80 percent of them have no clue. I don't think it's a case of getting even more developers, you'd think that that many developers would be more than enough to work on a project, right? Then again giving any random player who can "develop" a staff position and giving them an RC is their way of maintaining a playercount above 20 afterall :rolleyes:

Why can no one see that their current methods are no way going to help the server?

Kill 02-22-2009 01:29 PM

It would be nice to see the Developmental side of Classic being posted somewhere: preferably on these official forums. It would help as it not only tells us the direction of where the Development team are going; but we can also give feedback and invaluable suggestions and recommendations as to how the current [or future] content could be improved upon or whether some things may not be as... shall we say, wise to make?

Rufus 02-22-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kill (Post 1468595)
It would be nice to see the Developmental side of Classic being posted somewhere: preferably on these official forums. It would help as it not only tells us the direction of where the Development team are going; but we can also give feedback and invaluable suggestions and recommendations as to how the current [or future] content could be improved upon or whether some things may not be as... shall we say, wise to make?

Why do you think WhiteDragon is "Assistant Developer Administrator" now? So he can be used as a proxy to post for people like Thor most likely :rolleyes:

jacob_bald6225 02-22-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kill (Post 1468595)
It would be nice to see the Developmental side of Classic being posted somewhere: preferably on these official forums. It would help as it not only tells us the direction of where the Development team are going; but we can also give feedback and invaluable suggestions and recommendations as to how the current [or future] content could be improved upon or whether some things may not be as... shall we say, wise to make?

Want me to log my progress on the ice quest whenever I get back into the groove of school and start working on it again?

maximus_asinus 02-23-2009 02:30 AM

Next event I am going to post video on how terrible the hit detection is now. Just played a CTF where I could walk through arrows and slash people so clearly but they just walk through it.

Kill 02-23-2009 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1468634)
Why do you think WhiteDragon is "Assistant Developer Administrator" now? So he can be used as a proxy to post for people like Thor most likely :rolleyes:

Don't really see him post any updates or future ideas/plans about Development stuff...
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Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225 (Post 1468691)
Want me to log my progress on the ice quest whenever I get back into the groove of school and start working on it again?

Would be nice, yes.
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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1468754)
Next event I am going to post video on how terrible the hit detection is now. Just played a CTF where I could walk through arrows and slash people so clearly but they just walk through it.

It seems like it's the only way of proving a point as the Admins don't believe in anything unless they see it for themselves; ofcourse, you can expect Thor to be ignorant and deluded by still thinking that there's nothing wrong with the HD (only because he made it). Today, once again, I see people hit me yet nothing. It's gone beyond a joke now, this HD is no longer a mockery; it is a complete and utter failure.

jorollychu 02-23-2009 03:33 AM

whitedragon makes cool npcs that will never get released so he's really only a dev for fun and luda's probably the best dev but he gets no respect so he never knows what to do but at least he works unlike the other devs

Kill 02-23-2009 03:54 AM

Do you know what? that's actually pretty accurate. WhiteDragon i've seen only make fancy laggy NPCs so that he can sparkle away running around the overworld with boots and lag up the server to make everyone annoyed. Perhaps he's just showing off. I don't really know what the point in making fancy laggy NPCs is... if it's to do with future quests, then honestly... How can you say they're trying to keep things 'Classic' when things like that produced is a total contradiction in itself.

jacob_bald6225 02-23-2009 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jorollychu (Post 1468761)
whitedragon makes cool npcs that will never get released so he's really only a dev for fun and luda's probably the best dev but he gets no respect so he never knows what to do but at least he works unlike the other devs

Didn't luda quit?

MysticX2X 02-23-2009 04:16 AM

Yes, Luda's the best Dev when he breaks every staff rule and summons the server. :rolleyes:

Crimson2005 02-23-2009 06:02 PM

Just put the previous HD back until there is a better one developed than the one that Thor made atleast. So we can go back to enjoying CTF and PK/Spars in the mean time until something better comes along. Yes, I know it wouldn't solve all of Classic's problems but it would atleast be tolerable...

Kill 02-23-2009 08:02 PM

Agreed.

soulwazza 02-24-2009 05:33 AM

Classic needs a vision. A vision of what the server should be. Should it continue using the current levels, should it revert back to the levels used in 2000 etc. At present there is no consensus as to what classic should be. Here in lies the problem. There is at present a myriad of projects all heading in different directions. This effort is important and of fundamental importance but needs to be redirected into constructive projects that will aid into a classic vision.

Classic needs to redefine itself. It needs to focus on its core competencies, that is, things it is (was) good at. This would serve as a basis as to the re-establishment of the classic community. The introduction of bowling was a move in the right direction. Yes, it proved entertainment for a few days. However, slowly, as more beneficial projects are introduced the offering to new players is enhanced (this is needed for playercount growth).

The manager of the server should be driving the change needed.

And yes although the HD might need reworking dont just say 'OMG THIS HD SUCKS LULZ YOUR ****' perhaps no one is listening to your claims because all your offering is criticism not a resolution. Well, what is wrong with the HD, list the problems ie.
1)
2)
3)
and perhaps the issues will be resolved - although unlikely.

This is like the 83409384 thread complaining about the same problems and issues. This should register with the development staff and it hasn't <PROBLEM HERE. So im not really expecting anyone to read this and act upon my viewpoint :)! Peace :D <3

MysticX2X 02-24-2009 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005 (Post 1468833)
Just put the previous HD back until there is a better one developed than the one that Thor made atleast. So we can go back to enjoying CTF and PK/Spars in the mean time until something better comes along. Yes, I know it wouldn't solve all of Classic's problems but it would atleast be tolerable...

For the Europeans, yes.

Anyways, why don't they just script a HD geared towards the default HD with the movement as well? I'm not sure how much that process would be strayed from the amount of time it took to convert to Clientside HD.

maximus_asinus 02-24-2009 06:06 AM

I've talked to Thor and WhiteDragon on HD, and I recieved very different answers on why they've decided to change the system from Serverside to Clientside. To me, serverside is the most secure because lag didn't play such a major role. The server decided what was considered a hit, not the client. For the most part if it looked like it should hit, it would count as a hit. Now if it looks like a hit, you're wrong because your faster connection hasn't been refreshed with the new client's information and coordinates; they have been two steps ahead the whole time.


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