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PrinceDark 01-25-2007 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1268817)
Unixmad can view deleted threads/posts.

I don't recall the people who recieved these PM's reporting this to me.

They don't have faith you can handle this problem. They don't believe Unixmad or Stefan will handle the issue when they have more important game-related things to take care of.
We believe something like a Forum Manager, or what Tyhm pointed out as a possible better solution to dealing with these problems.

Infernix 01-25-2007 01:43 AM

I usually hear "Unixmad" brought up for a excuse for the moderators reactions. Personally I don't think the Mods would act any different if Unixmad didn't enforce these "Laws". If they did, wouldn't they address the problem that his community constantly brings up to him illegal or not.

Chris 01-25-2007 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PrinceDark (Post 1268816)
I really doubt Moonie is the reason for this new argument. More like 1 mod that picks fights with people in personal messages. Then imagine that mod becoming biased and deciding to take it out on individuals abusively by giving them unwarranted infractions and causing them to be banned.
That is the issue. Users being silenced along with their complaints in the support tickets.

I have access to the infractions section here. I have yet to see an unwarranted infraction. I've seen a few that I didn't agree with but that is because there are 1-2 rules I deem unnecessary. Other than that it isn't happened, yet. I doubt it will, but then again I lack precognition.

Andy0687 01-25-2007 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 1268886)
I have access to the infractions section here. I have yet to see an unwarranted infraction. I've seen a few that I didn't agree with but that is because there are 1-2 rules I deem unnecessary. Other than that it isn't happened, yet. I doubt it will, but then again I lack precognition.

Could you look at my infraction that was a "Personal Attack on Someone" in regards to the malinko thread.

I think that was unwarranted because I didnt say anything that was a personal attack.

But im over it, its the only one ive ever gotten, so im not cryin still.

excaliber7388 01-25-2007 02:25 AM

You can't make everyone happy.
But how about aiming for the majority?

Infernix 01-25-2007 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 1268886)
I have access to the infractions section here. I have yet to see an unwarranted infraction. I've seen a few that I didn't agree with but that is because there are 1-2 rules I deem unnecessary. Other than that it isn't happened, yet. I doubt it will, but then again I lack precognition.

Problem is about that is you wouldn't know the true situation as it is of each and every case.

Dean 01-25-2007 02:45 AM

After reading through numberous posts I think the way Unixmad is blamed for all of this is what causes such stupid problems like "Anti-Unixmad". Unixmad is constantly being used as a scapegoat reason for problems on the forums to act as though some people are being forced by him to carry out his wishes. If you're going to do something, for god sake take responsibility for your own actions.

No wonder people turn Anti-Graal with attitudes like this.

Darlene159 01-25-2007 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1268826)
Yet Another Thing - Forum Admin is a good idea. I'd even say Moonie should be promoted to it

I am already forum admin, but I still have to get most things approved by Unixmad. I can't just go changing things out of respect for his forums.

coreys 01-25-2007 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1268817)
Unixmad can view deleted threads/posts.

But does he? Yeah, no, probably not. Probably too busy counting his money.

Infernix 01-25-2007 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1268930)
I am already forum admin, but I still have to get most things approved by Unixmad. I can't just go changing things out of respect for his forums.

Do you bother to ever address to him that things might need to be changed? If we cant speak to unixmad personally that you must be there as a representatives on the player. But you kinda just sit there as a mod..who mods because Unixmad says so...even though the true motive of a mod is suppose to be to moderate the forums for the player.

Devil 01-25-2007 03:28 AM

Darlene only forwards tickets to unixmad if you're "harrassing her" or if she wants to get you threatened, I have proof.

Tyhm 01-25-2007 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1268930)
I am already forum admin, but I still have to get most things approved by Unixmad. I can't just go changing things out of respect for his forums.

I disagree - while I believe you're as much the Forum Admin as anyone, if you were truly the Administrator of the Forum, it would be your domain, your fief to rule as you see fit. Since you can't, you aren't, and that's wrong. I've been there, I know.
The way it is, you have to enforce rules whether you agree with them or not, and not even you are allowed to grant exceptions to these rules. You should either be granted the power to act in Unixmad's absence or we should get someone who can.

Skrobo2 01-25-2007 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1268947)
I disagree - while I believe you're as much the Forum Admin as anyone, if you were truly the Administrator of the Forum, it would be your domain, your fief to rule as you see fit. Since you can't, you aren't, and that's wrong. I've been there, I know.
The way it is, you have to enforce rules whether you agree with them or not, and not even you are allowed to grant exceptions to these rules. You should either be granted the power to act in Unixmad's absence or we should get someone who can.

I concur. Moonie's no more than a mod with a red bolded name as it stands.

killerogue 01-25-2007 03:42 AM

It's not like Moonie's a terrible mod it's more so like Infernix said she just kind of sits there and mods because unix says so and he should give her full reign over the forums then it would be more orderly and less confusion.

Darlene159 01-25-2007 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1268937)
Do you bother to ever address to him that things might need to be changed? If we cant speak to unixmad personally that you must be there as a representatives on the player. But you kinda just sit there as a mod..who mods because Unixmad says so...even though the true motive of a mod is suppose to be to moderate the forums for the player.

I have sent Unixmad complaints/threads/post, yes

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1268941)
Darlene only forwards tickets to unixmad if you're "harrassing her" or if she wants to get you threatened, I have proof.

Uh, when people say they want something sent to Unixmad, I send him the link.

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Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1268947)
I disagree - while I believe you're as much the Forum Admin as anyone, if you were truly the Administrator of the Forum, it would be your domain, your fief to rule as you see fit. Since you can't, you aren't, and that's wrong. I've been there, I know.
The way it is, you have to enforce rules whether you agree with them or not, and not even you are allowed to grant exceptions to these rules. You should either be granted the power to act in Unixmad's absence or we should get someone who can.

*shrugs* I work for Unixmad, as does everyone else. I guess Unixmad is the only true forum admin.


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