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Old 02-18-2009, 08:52 PM
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:36 PM
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Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:42 AM
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Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:13 AM
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Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.
I'm not either. :O
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:55 AM
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Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.
I have life time classic i don't even bother with zod anymore... I just play zone even though i have 3 accounts with life time classic. The reason zodiac has more players then GK is merely because its being made better and more productive updates are being used on zodiac then with GK.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:40 PM
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I have life time classic i don't even bother with zod anymore... I just play zone even though i have 3 accounts with life time classic. The reason zodiac has more players then GK is merely because its being made better and more productive updates are being used on zodiac then with GK.
Better? No, GK still is superior in it's design. However; Zodiac has been more productive in the past couple years. Also due to the fact it is free greatly increases it's player count. But you need to keep in mind we just went through management change, who have already set a time for their next update release.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:23 PM
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:29 AM
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:33 AM
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Going classic didn't help Graal 2001.
I've tried to make this point many times before.
Going non-gold isn't going to magically save GK.

But, on the otherhand, G2k1 went UC for a few years then came back non-gold for a little while... and while it was up it was pretty much never updated.
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Old 02-20-2009, 06:37 AM
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Going classic didn't help Graal 2001.
And that was when the gold/classic divide meant a lot more than it does today.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:21 AM
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I have life time classic i don't even bother with zod anymore... I just play zone even though i have 3 accounts with life time classic. The reason zodiac has more players then GK is merely because its being made better and more productive updates are being used on zodiac then with GK.
Zodiac isn't made better than GK. Zodiac was slapped together over night and over time it got fixed up, and even now the quality of Zodiac's design is no match for GK's. More productive? Yes, definitely. However, It is very hard to get work done for GK for several reasons:

1) The lack of people willing to help due to laziness, unreliability, no motivation, or the gold/classic barrier.
2) The quality of work required for Zodiac is minuscule when compared to the quality of work required for GK. The work required for GK is very high quality when compared to classic servers, and there are very few people on Graal who are able to produce this kind of work.
3) GK's current systems are quite hard to work with because of the way they have been set up. GK's mudlib design makes it extremely hard to maneuver the systems and add new things. Almost each time I want to add something new and creative to GK I have to contact Stefan to add new functions to the npc-server in order to get it to work.

I'm definitely not against what you're saying in your post, but merely correcting where you're wrong
Obviously Zodiac is doing something right because it's one of the most popular servers.
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Old 02-20-2009, 09:02 AM
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I'm definitely not against what you're saying in your post, but merely correcting where you're wrong
Obviously Zodiac is doing something right because it's one of the most popular servers.
Point taken I guess the GFX and scripting for GK must have been more difficult but i believe the most significant difference between the servers is that the admins on Zodiac take into account what players of the server have to offer (their ideas) which I'm pretty sure both the Gold servers do poorly (Zone and GK)
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:19 PM
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Point taken I guess the GFX and scripting for GK must have been more difficult but i believe the most significant difference between the servers is that the admins on Zodiac take into account what players of the server have to offer (their ideas) which I'm pretty sure both the Gold servers do poorly (Zone and GK)
Player suggestions are good however not all of them are practical to implement into the server. I'm not sure about Zone but I know GK welcomes good ideas for the server if the player is willing to do some work on his/her idea.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:01 PM
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Point taken I guess the GFX and scripting for GK must have been more difficult but i believe the most significant difference between the servers is that the admins on Zodiac take into account what players of the server have to offer (their ideas) which I'm pretty sure both the Gold servers do poorly (Zone and GK)
You didn't understand Tig's post.
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Old 02-21-2009, 07:25 AM
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You didn't understand Tig's post.
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