Classic Graal for iPhone

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

But an iPhone will get slowed to **** much worse. Also, it's not all about the hardware quality but about the fact that a keyboard > touchscreen. Always. Also, players have much higher resolutions, being able to see much farther.

This seems rather situational but the PC is also liable to a major slowdown.
I guess I'm being rather narrowsighted but can you explain what higher resolution is going to do to your game experience other than seeing further?
Why don't we just ditch joypad functionality all together because ya know configured correctly joypad > keyboard because we have more convenience and its unfair for other PC users? Scripts can easily even the playing field if done correctly too.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

This seems rather situational but the PC is also liable to a major slowdown.
I guess I'm being rather narrowsighted but can you explain what higher resolution is going to do to your game experience other than seeing further?
Why don't we just ditch joypad functionality all together because ya know configured correctly joypad > keyboard because we have more convenience and its unfair for other PC users? Scripts can easily even the playing field if done correctly too.

The PC is liable to slowdown as well, but the iPhone runs on like... I think 300mhz CPU? If you put a PC player and an iPhone player in a level with 100 other players, take a guess as to who it's going to hurt the worst.

Also, a keyboard vs a joypad is not comparible to an iPhone controls to a keyboard. Play any game on the iPhone and you'll see exactly what I mean.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

The PC is liable to slowdown as well, but the iPhone runs on like... I think 300mhz CPU? If you put a PC player and an iPhone player in a level with 100 other players, take a guess as to who it's going to hurt the worst.

Also, a keyboard vs a joypad is not comparible to an iPhone controls to a keyboard. Play any game on the iPhone and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Phone CPUs are a bit weirder than normal desktop CPUs.
Up until the iPhone 3Gs iPhones all had the same 620 MHz RISC ARM CPU. The 3GS actually only had a 600 MHz CPU, which was actually an 833 MHz ARM Cortex-A8 CPU that was underclocked, and it was still much faster than the 620 MHz CPUs because of the layout of the chip.

The iPhone 4 has a custom 1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 chip with a GPU built into it, so it handles video and 3D acceleration fairly well.

There are a few high end Android phones with HDMI ports built into them, because they can actually handle outputting Full HD (1080p) content, which is something that, in my experience, even midrange Laptops and Netbooks have struggled to do.

tl;dr- phone hardware and software is so different and optimized that its hard to compare with desktop hardware.

PC players would still have an advantage though because of both the other reasons Dusty said.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

I guess I'm being rather narrowsighted but can you explain what higher resolution is going to do to your game experience other than seeing further?

Does it need to do anything else? That's a pretty big advantage, at least on gun servers, lol.

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Phone CPUs are a bit weirder than normal desktop CPUs.
Up until the iPhone 3Gs iPhones all had the same 620 MHz RISC ARM CPU. The 3GS actually only had a 600 MHz CPU, which was actually an 833 MHz ARM Cortex-A8 CPU that was underclocked, and it was still much faster than the 620 MHz CPUs because of the layout of the chip.

The iPhone 4 has a custom 1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 chip with a GPU built into it, so it handles video and 3D acceleration fairly well.

There are a few high end Android phones with HDMI ports built into them, because they can actually handle outputting Full HD (1080p) content, which is something that, in my experience, even midrange Laptops and Netbooks have struggled to do.

tl;dr- phone hardware and software is so different and optimized that its hard to compare with desktop hardware.

PC players would still have an advantage though because of both the other reasons Dusty said.

I'm looking forward to the next generation of phones with a MOS 6502 processor in them

[Rufus]

iPads have a higher resolution but they're allowed to play alongside iPod users. In fact, the iPad probably uses a bigger screen than I do for Graal on my PC.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Phone CPUs are a bit weirder than normal desktop CPUs.
Up until the iPhone 3Gs iPhones all had the same 620 MHz RISC ARM CPU. The 3GS actually only had a 600 MHz CPU, which was actually an 833 MHz ARM Cortex-A8 CPU that was underclocked, and it was still much faster than the 620 MHz CPUs because of the layout of the chip.

The iPhone 4 has a custom 1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 chip with a GPU built into it, so it handles video and 3D acceleration fairly well.

There are a few high end Android phones with HDMI ports built into them, because they can actually handle outputting Full HD (1080p) content, which is something that, in my experience, even midrange Laptops and Netbooks have struggled to do.

tl;dr- phone hardware and software is so different and optimized that its hard to compare with desktop hardware.

PC players would still have an advantage though because of both the other reasons Dusty said.

Optimized, maybe, but still not THAT optimized. For example, iPhone servers can hardly have any clientside looping at all because the CPU's can't handle it. GPU and CPU are totally different. The iPhone can handle some powerful graphic output, but that means squat when it comes to processing data, and that's where the PC trumps the iPhone.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Rufus

iPads have a higher resolution but they're allowed to play alongside iPod users. In fact, the iPad probably uses a bigger screen than I do for Graal on my PC.

Graal runs on a lower resolution tho, I think?

[Raelyn]

Is there a way to log on your graal gold account with the ipad, or is this wishful thinking?

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by Raelyn

Is there a way to log on your graal gold account with the ipad, or is this wishful thinking?

No there isn't.

[NewYorkerNick]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Also, a keyboard vs a joypad is not comparible to an iPhone controls to a keyboard. Play any game on the iPhone and you'll see exactly what I mean.

You get use to the ipod controls though. I am way more efficient on my ipod sparring/pking/etc than my keyboard. Typing is different though.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by NewYorkerNick

You get use to the ipod controls though. I am way more efficient on my ipod sparring/pking/etc than my keyboard. Typing is different though.

I stink at sparring with both my pc and iPod xD

[Rufus]

Best review ever.

[Geno]

there is no way that is a real review because Battletoads was way more stressful

[LordSquirt]

It's kinda weird when there are so many players who go like "LOOKIN 4 GF SLAVE", "GIRLS PM ME", "GIRLS LOOK AT MY GUILD PIC", and other stuff like this...

was old graal like that