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Old 10-03-2014, 02:09 AM
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Remaining Attack Types

So there are now only four attack types that still aren't actually on any weapons or used in combat at all. It would be fantastic if the full spectrum of attack types was finally completed, and GK is honestly not too far off from that right now.

I figure I'll toss out a few ideas for them, and other people are welcome to join in. :]

Acid - Corrodes your opponent's AC or WC, reducing it temporarily.
Drain - Drains your opponent's spell points.
Paralyze - Stuns your opponents for a short duration.
Deplete - Absorbs food points from your opponent. (Or possibly grace, although the icon is currently showing a piece of food. )

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Old 10-03-2014, 12:00 PM
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So there are now only four attack types that still aren't actually on any weapons or used in combat at all. It would be fantastic if the full spectrum of attack types was finally completed, and GK is honestly not too far off from that right now.

I figure I'll toss out a few ideas for them, and other people are welcome to join in. :]

Acid - Corrodes your opponent's AC or WC, reducing it temporarily.
Drain - Drains your opponent's spell points.
Paralyze - Stuns your opponents for a short duration.
Deplete - Absorbs food points from your opponent. (Or possibly grace, although the icon is currently showing a piece of food. )
Re-introducing acid/Balor's Vitriol could be pretty cool if the effects are temporary.

And as far as I know drain magic still works as a spell, and having an item with resist drain +100 (like that black necromancer helm with the purple gem) gives you immunity to having your magic drained.

A year or two ago Nico/Cubes made it so the attacktype "fear" stunned a player for a short duration. The thing that made it so overpowered was the effect could be re-applied while a player was still paralyzed, causing some spars to last as short as 5 seconds (fully geared players too). If there was some sort of parameter where the effect could only be re-applied 3 or 4 seconds after the player is freed-- it might not be so bad. And the effect should only last a split second itself. But yeah, all that to say Paralyze could be pretty cool too!

And omg deplete would be so annoying in combat.. love the thought of it!

Edit: Maybe a new spell called Drain Grace that's also affected by the Drain resists. And still use deplete for absorbing food points.
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Old 10-03-2014, 06:43 PM
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Re-introducing acid/Balor's Vitriol could be pretty cool if the effects are temporary.

And as far as I know drain magic still works as a spell, and having an item with resist drain +100 (like that black necromancer helm with the purple gem) gives you immunity to having your magic drained.
I'd like to see Vitriol re-introduced as an acid-based spell. (With a temporary AC debuff instead of a permanent one like the original spell did.)

Also, I've heard that about Drain as well, but Drain can also be assigned to weapons using Bile's blessing.

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A year or two ago Nico/Cubes made it so the attacktype "fear" stunned a player for a short duration. The thing that made it so overpowered was the effect could be re-applied while a player was still paralyzed, causing some spars to last as short as 5 seconds (fully geared players too). If there was some sort of parameter where the effect could only be re-applied 3 or 4 seconds after the player is freed-- it might not be so bad. And the effect should only last a split second itself. But yeah, all that to say Paralyze could be pretty cool too!
The duration for Fear's stun effect was a little too long, and didn't make as much sense as Fear does now. It would need to be about a second long, or shorter, and provide at least a split second window for the player to move away or block with a shield to protect themselves if they are being locked into place by all the stuns.

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And omg deplete would be so annoying in combat.. love the thought of it!
Yeah, it's basically the same thing as Drain, but would take out your opponent's food first instead, leaving them no more points to regenerate health, magic, and so forth.

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Edit: Maybe a new spell called Drain Grace that's also affected by the Drain resists. And still use deplete for absorbing food points.
Well, Drain Grace could be used as a stand-alone spell just like Drain Magic. But for the attack type, it might be possible to have spell points / grace drain randomly if both are to be included.
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Old 10-04-2014, 02:56 AM
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So there are now only four attack types that still aren't actually on any weapons or used in combat at all. It would be fantastic if the full spectrum of attack types was finally completed, and GK is honestly not too far off from that right now.

I figure I'll toss out a few ideas for them, and other people are welcome to join in. :]

Acid - Corrodes your opponent's AC or WC, reducing it temporarily.
Drain - Drains your opponent's spell points.
Paralyze - Stuns your opponents for a short duration.
Deplete - Absorbs food points from your opponent. (Or possibly grace, although the icon is currently showing a piece of food. )
Is this just remaining attacktypes that are listed in the Inventory menu or does it include the few extra that don't have resistances?
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Old 10-04-2014, 04:02 PM
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Is this just remaining attacktypes that are listed in the Inventory menu or does it include the few extra that don't have resistances?
Welp, I might as well ask. Which ones are you talking about?
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:29 PM
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Also, I've heard that about Drain as well, but Drain can also be assigned to weapons using Bile's blessing.
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But for the attack type, it might be possible to have spell points / grace drain randomly if both are to be included.

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Old 10-07-2014, 01:15 AM
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Welp, I might as well ask. Which ones are you talking about?
Here's the full list I see. There are 25 of them, can you guys maybe figure out which resistances affect which types?
  • PHYSICAL
  • MAGIC
  • FIRE
  • ELECTRICITY
  • COLD
  • CONFUSION
  • ACID
  • DRAIN
  • WEAPONMAGIC
  • GHOSTHIT
  • POISON
  • SLOW
  • PARALYZE
  • TURNUNDEAD
  • FEAR
  • CANCELLATION
  • DEPLETION
  • DEATH
  • CHAOS
  • COUNTERSPELL
  • GODPOWER
  • HOLYWORD
  • BLIND
  • INTERNAL
  • LIFE_STEALING

I have a list, if I'm allowed to share the describes what they were originally supposed to do. If Nico allows me to post that, I can.
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