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Old 09-27-2009, 11:16 PM
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You didn't get me.

The idea is very good, but it's simply not Noctorious. Do you really want to throw away everything Noctorious has right now and start over? How dumb is that?
Well I dont plan on throwing everything away, my finger isnt even near the delete button. I will possibly use parts of the existing Gmap to make some of these Rooms, as well as new levels. As for the GFXing and scripts, they all stay. Same tileset GFX everything. Just presented in a new way.
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:52 PM
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With a little bit of imagination it's really not that hard.
I was going to leave a very nasty comment when I read this yesterday but I figured, "To hell with it." You pretty much summed it up, though.
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You didn't get me.

The idea is very good, but it's simply not Noctorious. Do you really want to throw away everything Noctorious has right now and start over? How dumb is that?
What is noctorious but an era-utopia-graal ghetto-atrius-big city-clone.

I don't see how it's dumb to not want to take what Noctorious has and present it in a new, rather original (to graal) light.

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I was going to leave a very nasty comment when I read this yesterday but I figured, "To hell with it." You pretty much summed it up, though.
To my imagination, theres not much more to be done on those types of servers.
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:07 AM
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To my imagination, theres not much more to be done on those types of servers.
Sunnyville idea.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:09 AM
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Do you really want to throw away everything Noctorious has right now and start over?
Bad idea indeed, it would be better to start on a new server with a new name instead.

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What is noctorious but an era-utopia-graal ghetto-atrius-big city-clone.
we existed before GG and bigcity.

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I don't see how it's dumb to not want to take what Noctorious has and present it in a new, rather original (to graal) light.
Did you visit Noctorious while we had the Beta-opening?

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To my imagination, theres not much more to be done on those types of servers.
so Era is the perfect server that does not take ideas from other modern servers and place it on their own server?
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:46 PM
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It's all about making a server LIKE Era that makes people call Era the clone
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:37 PM
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It doesnt matter whether Noctorious was before Big City and GG, or for that matter any modern server today. They finished and got their stuff out before we did. They win. Now whatever comes out after that (that is similar to a modern server like Era) will be classified into the Era clone category. This is what happened to us. So heres the choices, 1. Go sword. 2. Change the Gameplay. I dont know about everyone else but I dont want to turn into a sword server. To be honest also, I think doing this COD-type server would be a good idea. Why? because it changes the gameplay of the server so that players can entertain themselves. Without staff having to be on every minute of the day to Host and do events. Now doing an RPG game is a nice idea too. But the problem I have with RPGs is that if you look at these places like Valikorlia, Etc. They dont have too many players. I think the general population that plays the modern servers arnt going to want to have to go through these complicated GUIs to be in a class of some sort, then go through more GUIs to fight and such. What we have to realize is that many modern players like to keep it simple, Grab a gun and shoot the other player. Even I myself do not want to deal with 10 GUIs to just shoot a gun. Simplicity is the key to getting the attention of (most) modern players. I know this because Ive played Era for 3 years now and im familiar with how everyone thinks on there.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:22 PM
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It doesnt matter whether Noctorious was before Big City and GG, or for that matter any modern server today. They finished and got their stuff out before we did. They win. Now whatever comes out after that (that is similar to a modern server like Era) will be classified into the Era clone category. This is what happened to us. So heres the choices, 1. Go sword. 2. Change the Gameplay. I dont know about everyone else but I dont want to turn into a sword server. To be honest also, I think doing this COD-type server would be a good idea. Why? because it changes the gameplay of the server so that players can entertain themselves. Without staff having to be on every minute of the day to Host and do events. Now doing an RPG game is a nice idea too. But the problem I have with RPGs is that if you look at these places like Valikorlia, Etc. They dont have too many players. I think the general population that plays the modern servers arnt going to want to have to go through these complicated GUIs to be in a class of some sort, then go through more GUIs to fight and such. What we have to realize is that many modern players like to keep it simple, Grab a gun and shoot the other player. Even I myself do not want to deal with 10 GUIs to just shoot a gun. Simplicity is the key to getting the attention of (most) modern players. I know this because Ive played Era for 3 years now and im familiar with how everyone thinks on there.
We'll talk after 2 weeks when nothing has changed, since nothing is getting done.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:54 PM
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But the problem I have with RPGs is that if you look at these places like Valikorlia, Etc. They dont have too many players.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:18 PM
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Old 09-29-2009, 12:02 AM
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It's funny how Noctorious was accused of being an era-utopia-graal ghetto-atrius-big city-clone and granted, there isn't much of a difference. Noctorious was never completed and thus what people saw was just what would have been the base of the server, a point from which it could move on. Now, Old_Days suggests an idea which is basically running away from what the modern stereotype is or, atleast from what era is. Some reject these ideas. So at the end, people don't want an era clone, but they don't want Noctorious to move away from what it's base point was. I don't see what path would lead Noc to getting someplace other than the server graveyard. So what do you guys think should be made of Noctorious? (btw, I currently stand on neutral land, I don't really like or dislike any of the many ideas that the staff has already discussed.)
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Old 09-29-2009, 12:21 AM
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Not guns/special guns for the better/first/friend-of-staff players.
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